FL>>>>>Is this a Threat from right to lifers?

Prayer vigil for Schiavo draws crowd

Citing the Atlanta judge's killing, a monsignor tells the crowd that the judge who ordered Terri Schiavo's feeding tube removed could be "in danger."

By JAMIE THOMPSON
Published March 13, 2005

PINELLAS PARK - ......................Florida

............ Young men and women took turns holding a wooden crucifix on stage, a rosary dangling from Jesus' neck.

signing petitions for the impeachment of Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Judge George Greer and trying to persuade hospice nurses to refuse to participate in the "scheduled killing" of Schiavo.

In remarks to the crowd, Monsignor Thaddeus Malanowski mentioned the recent killing of an Atlanta judge. Greer, Malanowski said, probably will need more security now.



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He said he hopes "the judge sleeps well at night. His life is in danger."**************

More than a few people snickered.

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The rallies will continue outside the hospice, with 24-hour vigils starting Wednesday.




http://www.sptimes.com/2005/03/13/Tampabay/Prayer_vigil_for_Schi.shtml

who think murdering people who don't agree with them is perfectly ok. I've never been able to figure this out, other than to decide that these people are fixated on their views to such an extent that they don't care if what they do contradicts them.

I've never heard such off-color remarks from a Catholic priest before. That guy should turn in his collar.

Pope Gregory XIII advocated/encouraged the physical removal of Queen Elizabeth I from her throne, even going as far as saying that anyone who did murder her would not only not be sinning, but would gain merit in the eyes of God. (WTF???)

Pope Urban II told an outright lie to launch the Crusades against the Turks early in the last millenium, saying pretty much the same thing Gregory said: those who dipatch the infidels (and steal their land, and rape their wives and daughters and burn their fields) would not only not sin, but would gain favor in the eyes of God.

Somehow, it seems history repeats itself. These words need to be put to Monsignor to see if he is as sanguineous as the early leaders of his church.

Trying to scare judges into doing what you want by suggesting they might be killed otherwise?

But these are "Christians" trying to "save a life." Just like Bush killing Iraqi's for the right for "freedom" and "democracy." :eyes:

to the judge or nurses.this Monsignor should be the one held for their fate....he is trying to push(in my mind) murder to stop the tube from being withdrawn and hopes to have a new court situation.........

important also is the fact that these people are disrupting the families who are coming to see their loved ones who are really dying and the crowds are totally ignorant of this fact...as they are ignorant of the fact that school kids have to walk the sidewalks where these people are coming to and from school........this is outrageous to a parent but we were told they have the right...........

--IMM

Inciting violence is where the line is. I think he should be arrested and charged with verbal assault.

Who do they think they are?

Now what part of right to life don't these people get?

That sure sounds like a threat given the current climate.

in connection with this case.

I'm glad he has protection. And what exactly is dear Jebbie doing about these terrorists? I told my mother about this and she said they were also like terrorist's and like with abortion too. I think my mother is turning into a democrat. :) I've been talking to her a lot about everything.

They drag his bones out every time one of them gets busted molesting a kid, etc. He's the Johnny Cochran of the diocese. Good creds great at bringing media attention to a boil. He can suggest that the judge needs more protection because he thinks that he's beyond reproach.

And people bitch and moan about Jerry Springer? C'mon ... the Terri Schiavo Miracle Salvation and Political Righteousness Show puts them all to shame. And the ironic kick-in-the-head is that Terri would probably have opposed it "from the git-go".

It's like those impromptu execution parties we get when a convict is scheduled to die.

I tend to oppose pulling the plug, whatever plug that may be. But this public exhibition of folly is no longer about sending Terri to her biological death. It's spectacle, theater of the absurd, something of which the maître of the Grand Guignol Theatre would even have trouble conceiving.

May God grant His mercy to Terri Schiavo. I know He won't be so inclined to grant it to peanut gallery, but I'll pray for them, too, just as I do for the rest of us who have made sin into a high art.

--p!
Amen.
Let us Prey ...

At one point these people had a pet chicken in tow and a weeping statue of the Virgin Mary.

A pet chicken? :wtf:

I'm not sure if it was present today, but it has been present in past "rallies."

They don't care about her personally. I'm sure some of them do but for the most part it is a show. I'm surprised Jerry Springer hasn't shown up. LOL.

That was a direct threat against a federal judge.

Shouldn't he be arrested? His statement exposes the true nature of this crowd - they're not for saving anyone's life. They're interested in imposing their point of view - even at the cost of another life.

Is this how the church feels?

http://www.sptimes.com/2005/03/13/Tampabay/Prayer_vigil_for_Schi.shtml


So, threating a judges life is the way of the lord?
If he isnt arrested, he needs to be fired...he incited murder, plain and simple.

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Dang, I forgot to mention that they are pedophile enablers...ah well, maybe next time.

go over the top. Good for you.

Killing is now the way of Jesus. Don't you know he's killing all those Iraqi's so they can have "freedom" and "democracy"? It's a battle of the evil-doer's! :eyes: These people are purely nuts.

They are Anti-abortionists, nothing more.. they have no concerns for life in general. They (GOP) back the tobacco industry, the gun industry, industrial pollutionist, the death penalty, wars of agression,hell virtually anything that kills. So PLEASE don't call them Pro-lifer or Right-to-lifers. It just ain't true and you wouldn't want to be known as someone spreading untruths now would you?

and very true. If they would just care about the people already living as much as they care about a clump of tissue.

is really quite telling isn't it?

WND Exclusive MATTERS OF LIFE AND DEATH
Husband bars priest from brain-damaged wife
Catholic monsignor regularly ministered to Terri Schindler-Schiavo
Posted: August 19, 2003
5:00 p.m. Eastern



Yesterday morning, Monsignor Thaddeus Malanowski of the Diocese of St. Petersburg learned Shindler-Schiavo's husband has barred him from visiting because of concerns about his "integrity."

Schiavo's actions took family members by surprise because Malanowski had visited Terri many times at the hospice where she resides. Terri was admitted to Morton Plant Hospital in Clearwater, Fla., Wednesday night to address an emergency medical crisis.
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'No visitors'

The priest found out he was barred when he dropped by the hospital yesterday morning to see Terri. No reason was given by the nurse, except that his name was not on the list of persons Schiavo allowed to see his wife.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=34175

He probably tried to save her and convert her. My grandparents tried that with my great-uncle before he died of lung cancer. He wasn't a Christian and they talked to him and stuff. He ended up wanting to be saved and that's fine if it's his own decision and they didn't pressure him. That's probably what happened I think.

PINELLAS PARK - They came from as far away as California, Pennsylvania and Georgia and stood along the grassy roadside in Pinellas Park, praying out loud and asking, once again, for a miracle for Terri Schiavo.


Speakers, including religious leaders from Virginia and New Jersey, urged the crowd to continue writing letters to lawmakers, signing petitions for the impeachment of Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Judge George Greer and trying to persuade hospice nurses to refuse to participate in the "scheduled killing" of Schiavo.


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these people have NO right to try and tell our law makers and citizens what to do in our own state...............this so called movement comes from the right.......get the f back home............the law has spoken...and if you are not a FL voter STFU!!!!!!!!!!

an unconstitutional law that Jebbie signed. The people applying pressure were right wingnuts from all over the U.S..

They're doing it again.

I do ..my grandson goes to the school next to Hospice.its a deadend street and these idiots are disturbing them from going to and from school.yet the school says it can do nothing.whats wrong with this picture?...........

frustration at all of these people from other states interfering with the laws of Florida--not to mention kids trying to get to school.

No matter how sincerely they hold their beliefs, when they force the world to operate around them because of those beliefs, they become publicity hounds who think their disruptions are proof of their "goodness."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1352657/posts

and here:

http://www.blogsforterri.com/

and at hundreds of other blogs and web sites. There are at least a dozen right wingnut organizations involved as well, like Focus on the Family, National Right to Life, etc.

I've read countless threats against Greer and Schiavo on FR. I hope the Justice Department is monitoring that site.

with approval.

about life why are they threatning to kill a judge? :eyes: Flipfloppers.

There ARE limits on freedom of speech to protect people from verbal assault or prevent whackos from inciting violence.

IF the judge is harmed, he could be accused of inciting this. I'm not sure if they would consider his words a "direct threat" or not. I think it varies somewhat state to state.

They did arrest some hate crime anti gay people recently from spewing out bible quotes that said "Gays are sinners" and charged them with hate speech. But again, laws vary state to state on this.

Wouldn't want to be associates with the haters in any way.

this is the right wingers trying to change laws that govern states!

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Many people don't.

and that is what gets them in trouble as far as trying to separate themself from these fanatics.

It seems to me that they are bound with each other on this and other issues that are "pro-life" such as protesting and harrassing women going into clinics because of their "pro-life" beliefs.

Any liberal that claims they are not in the same league has a lot of explaining to to imo to defend their liberal cause. They are in the same league by the act of adopting the "pro-life" label for themself.

No matter whether they are Catholic or evangelical fundamentalists, they are joined at the hip, bound together with the "pro.life" label, and they choose to aligned themselves with those fanatic groups all on their own by adopting the "pro-life" meme.

I wonder what next? A denial on the part of the liberal "pro-lifers" that accuses the fanatics of not being "real" pro-lifers"? They are the only "real" pro-lifers" and the others are not real Christians? Impossible because they both want the same thing.

Threatning a judge? What if something happens to him? They'd know where to go to.... :argh: I can't believe my country has been taken over by facists!

The Orlando Sentinel

ORLANDO, Fla. - (KRT) - Fifteen years ago, two leaders of the anti-abortion group Operation Rescue walked into a motel in small-town Missouri and begged the night clerk for a fax machine.

At a nearby hospital, the parents of Nancy Cruzan were set to remove the feeding tube that had kept their daughter alive for nearly eight years. The activists were desperate to mobilize opposition to what they considered would be her murder.

"That's how sophisticated we were," remembers the Rev. Pat Mahoney, now executive director of the Christian Defense Coalition. "We were desperately trying to get the word out, desperately trying to get people out. There just wasn't much interest."

Today, Mahoney is a leader of an informal but growing network of conservative, religious and disability organizations who, with the click of a computer mouse, are enlisting hundreds of thousands of people in Bob and Mary Schindler's fight to keep their daughter Terri Schiavo alive.

http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/news/nation/11126399.htm

So what makes this so special? Why didn't people care about that one situation? Maybe this one is only because of the press and showing off. Really telling.

Family and religious groups rally for brain-damaged woman

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. - Women knelt in prayer and raised their hands to the sky during a rally Sunday set up to urge state legislators and other officials to prevent Friday's court-ordered removal of the feeding tube keeping Terri Schiavo alive.

The brain-damaged woman's parents told the emotional crowd that their daughter still jokes with them and is trying to learn to say "I love you." And religious groups at the rally argued the removal of the feeding tube would be cruel.

"Terri may be disabled, but her life is of great worth to God," James Dobson, founder of the Christian group Focus on the Family, said on a recorded message that was played to the crowd.

Doctors say Terri Schiavo, who was raised in the Philadelphia suburb of Huntingdon Valley, Pa., is in a persistent vegetative state - and that any movements or sounds she makes are coincidental and not a result of consciousness. Her husband, Michael Schiavo, contends his wife would not want to be kept alive artificially.

More at link:

http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/103-03132005-462663.html

He has blantantly broken the laws of Florida to keep the corpse on life support.

State Chief Financial Officer Tom Gallagher, who's often mentioned as a possible gubernatorial candidate in 2006, led the crowd in the Pledge of Allegiance.

"Our creator has given us life and liberty and the pursuit of happiness, and only he has the power to take it away," Gallagher said.

There's more after JEB...!

these people just made themselves look stupid. Now I believe they are also dangerous.