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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 03:31 PM
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President Hugo Chavez waiting for USA to announce that Venezuela has WMD
THE INTERNATIONAL FORECASTER editor Bob Chapman writes:
Venezuela’s President Hugo Chavez has again spoken out against the Bush administration saying the US is planning to portray his country as a security threat in order to capture its vast oil reserves ... “We are just waiting for the US to announce that Venezuela has WMD.”

Mr. Chavez has repeatedly accused George Bush of plotting to assassinate him. US officials have called him a threat and a destabilizing force because they want an excuse to take over Venezuela’s oil reserves.

“They want to control our oil and use it for themselves. They went to Iraq thinking they will control Iraq’s oil reserves but I doubt very much they will ever control that country.” Speaking to members of the Communist Party of India, President of Venezuela Hugo Chavez Frias proclaimed he was not a Communist, although he said some of his friends such as Fidel Castro are.

Mr. Chavez describes himself as a “patriot nationalist.”
Mr. Chavez, while in India, signed several agreements and will appoint an honorary consul in Kolkata. India will import oil output from a Venezuelan oilfield, which will be jointly explored by both countries.

http://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=27151


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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 03:34 PM
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1. I'll bet you they didn't tell the Boy King about this.

I could just imagine his snit fit if he ever got
wind of it.

The best defense is a good offense. Lol. Way
to go, Hugo.
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Randi_Listener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 03:35 PM
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2. I'm all fucking for Chavez being anti-Fuckface.
But he's starting to sound a little fucking tin-foil-ish, huh?
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 03:38 PM
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4. If by a "little fucking tin-foil-ish," you mean speaking hard truths,
than fuck yes! :)
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 03:51 PM
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6. Not when you know Bush backed the coup against him,
and the fact the Venezuelan secret service learned of a plot to crash his airplane en route to the U.N. to give a speech. His flight was cancelled, as a result.

There was another occassion when they turned his plane back and didn't let it land at its original destination.

Start reading what's available on Hugo Chavez aside from the right-wing press and you'll be deepened considerably. Why do you think so many DU'ers are very sober students of US/Venezuela politics?
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ashmanonar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 04:27 PM
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14. seems like the tinfoil hatters tend to be somewhat justified in
being paranoid, at least sometimes...can anyone remember what the name of the prominent american was, who committed suicide because he thought he was being followed by Israeli agents? (incidentally, he WAS being followed.)

when we were paranoid about the government's motives in going into iraq, we were vindicated when it turned out that everything they invaded for has been false...

being paranoid isn't a mental condition anymore, it's a result of being informed.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 04:46 PM
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17. James Forrestal,
former Secretary of Defense. Believed he was being followed by Israeli agents, and was.

"Jumped" from the 16th floor of the Bethesda Naval Hospital around 2AM, May 22, 1949.

Throughout Forrestal’s hospitalization, access to him was severely restricted. One-time visitors were his wife, his two sons, Sidney Souers (a former DCI, NSC executive secretary, and alleged MJ-12 member), Louis Johnson, Truman, and Congressman Lyndon Johnson. Menninger visited twice. Although Forrestal was presumably glad to see his sons, he was not close to any of these visitors, and had a political antipathy to his government colleagues who came by. However, Forrestal was not permitted to see the several people he continually asked to see: his brother, a friend, and two priests....

Father Sheehy had reason to suspect murder. When he arrived at Bethesda Naval Hospital after learning of Forrestal’s death, an experienced-looking hospital corpsman approached him through the crowd. In a low, tense voice he said: "Father, you know Mr. Forrestal didn’t kill himself, don’t you?" Before Sheehy could respond or ask his name, others in the crowd pressed close, and the man quickly departed....

Later inspection found heavy scuff marks outside the window sill and cement work. Proponents of the suicide theory claim these were made by Forrestal’s feet while he was hanging by the neck from the radiator, and perhaps that he belatedly changed his mind and tried to climb back in. But the scuff marks confirm no such thing. They could just as easily have been made by his struggle with someone pushing him out the window.
http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2004/08/suicide-dont-fall-for-it.html
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ashmanonar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 05:47 PM
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20. thank you.
that's who i was thinking of.
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livinginphotographs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 03:35 PM
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3. My hope is that Chavez makes enough friends
To spell absolute disaster if Bush goes after him. Of course, not that negative consequences have ever stopped Bush from doing something stupid.
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ashmanonar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 04:09 PM
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13. he's already got big friends...china, at least that's the rumor
/report...and that's a pretty good friend to make.
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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 03:38 PM
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5. Gotta love Chavez. He's read Bush's play book and is playing one or two
steps ahead of him. :D I'd love to watch Bush try to play Chavez in a chess match...
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earthboundmisfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 03:52 PM
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7. I think Bush only plays checkers...
but Chavez would beat him at that, too!
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 03:53 PM
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8. Omigod. You flatter George Bush.
Edited on Sun Mar-13-05 03:54 PM by Judi Lynn
He doesn't have the mental, psychological stillness (strength) to be able to concentrate.
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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 04:04 PM
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9. bush thinks all his checkers are already Kinged.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 04:07 PM
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10. So it by god seems!
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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 04:09 PM
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12. The Madness of King Gorge.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 04:09 PM
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11. How soon before he "spreads democracy" to a democracy?
Like Venezuela?
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 04:42 PM
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15. Instead of WMD, I think they will use a more creative excuse
U.S. troops are now in Columbia at the Venezuelan border, protecting a major oil pipeline and training the Columbia Army to fight Marxist guerrillas in the Columbian civil war. If and when U.S. troops become actively involved in the fighting and U.S. troops start dying, it will give Bush a perfect excuse to blame Venezuela for aiding the guerrillas.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2670913.stm

Saturday, 18 January, 2003, 03:12 GMT
US troops engage further in Colombia

US troops will train in Arauca for three months. The United States has deployed troops in eastern Colombia in an area rich of oil and widely seen as a stronghold of Marxist rebels. US special forces have begun training Colombian troops in counter-insurgency techniques in the province of Arauca. The army is trying to protect an oil pipeline which has been attacked 200 times in the last two years alone. It is the first time the US military has been directly involved in
Colombia's 39-year civil war.

The BBC correspondent in Bogota says that with a possible war in Iraq
looming, and political unrest in Venezuela, Colombia's oil has become
strategically important. This has prompted Washington to overcome its reluctance to get involved in the Colombia's internal strife. Colombia is the United States' 10th largest supplier of oil......
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Stop_the_War Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 04:43 PM
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16. I LOVE CHAVEZ
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 04:55 PM
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18. Well, the coup didn't work, what does he want from us?
Edited on Sun Mar-13-05 04:55 PM by impeachdubya
Funny, isn't it, that the same Dr. Rice who found nice things to say about the Family Saud's "moves towards freedom" (For instance, in the "new, improved" Saudi Arabia, Women only get decapitated for having sex outside of marriage; the whole town doesn't get to rape them first) couldn't think of one positive thing to say about the democratically elected Chavez.

More proof that for the Bush Admin., "Democracy" means "You get to pick one from a slate of our patented, administration-approved, corporte friendly stooges"

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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 04:59 PM
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19. Aren't Venezuela's oil reserves well past "peak oil"?
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