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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 02:41 AM
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Dear lord, please help the Democrats clean house and get rid of all these
fucking phoney, bought out pieces of shit.

I want Leiberman gone, any democrat in CT has to be better.

I want Joe Biden beaten into obscurity.

These people are voting to kill us, they are not democrats.

Both parties are full of corporate, elitiest sell outs.

Our party is useless until we are rid of these Fredos.

I can not wait until 2006!!!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 02:50 AM
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 02:52 AM
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2. One way to get Joe is to regain the majority and then shut him out
until he cooperates. With that approval rating, a primary may be not much more than an inconvenience. I do want him gone, that's for sure but these poll numbers are interesting. Biden, he'll do himself in. The only thing I really remember him doing was getting hair transplants. What a record (oh, yaah, and blowing the Thomas nomination).
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 03:19 AM
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5. And he ripped off that campaign speech from the Labour Party leader
in Britain.

(which made him look silly when he quoted the part about his father working in the coal mines in Pennslyvaniaand everyone in Delaware knew that his dad actually ran a new car dealership.)
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 12:01 PM
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11. Forgot that. That's great. Father coal miner, LOL. What a tool!
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 02:53 AM
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3. Lieberman is a Bush loving piece of shit
and I could care less about poll numbers.

We see how good those are...

Fuck him, he is not a democrat!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 12:03 PM
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12. I agree. I'd like to see someone like Paul Newman run. Erase those
poll numbers in a hurry. Even if he gets back in, we're winning BIG in 2006. Then they can have a little chat with him and tell him to play ball or take a hike. I share your sentiments. He is arrogant, sanctimonious, and he betrayed Gore's election challenge almost immediately.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 03:19 AM
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4. Well, as much as I dislike the Joe brothers.....
Edited on Mon Mar-14-05 03:19 AM by Old and In the Way
Would I rather have 2 really nice, liberal Republicans in their place? Nope.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 03:27 AM
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6. Unfortunately that is the system. And until you get control of the system
and clean it up - it will always be the system. Do not fall into the trap of targeting your own Dems. For sure some Democrats are fiscal conservatives (I would say much more than half). For sure they are all beholden at least in part to corporate donations (all of them).

I think the people who wanted no corporate involvement and no trade voted for Nader and made up about 1% of the population. I do not know if you are in that group.. but I think we have to be realistic. Nobody is going to change a thing about the system until Democrats get into power. The elections may take place in a few years and if we bare knuckle and bleed.. we may get lucky and win. But only if we hold on to each and every one of the Democrats we have now.

I keep asking - the people who want our big tent to be torn apart - are you a Repuke tool or just a tool of the repukes for all your wounds and angry thinking?

Here we are joining groups and donating money and getting ready for tough, tough fights and on the other hand every 6th post on this board is about dumping a few of our Democratic leaders?
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 03:35 AM
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7. To heal and handle manipulation we need to learn how to not
knee-jerk in anger.. but how to step back and consider and then respond to each situation as adults. That is the only way. Otherwise you will be in a froth of emotion (Karl Rove's perpetual campaign has made it so) or you will be apathetic.

Try and step back and take a deep breath. A bankruptcy bill can be undone another day.. SS would be a structural change that would change the voting patterns of the country and would be un - reversible. Democrats did not get into power. They throw bills at them with a 'little bit of this & and little bit of that'. A techniques designed to make it 'complicated' and promoted by Bush & the Repukes.

Don't fall into the trap. Why would anyone start pounding the pavement for their own Democratic candidate in 1 year if we loose 5 senators? Why would they bother? It will be a rat race. One percent of the population is for the left, left Utopian left. It is time to put away dreamy things and fight like adults. Ardently, deeply, methodically and long-term. That is the only way to win.

Don't take the wind out of the lungs of the Democrats who love Joe Lieberman and see him as someone in the middle of hell with not much choice.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 05:23 AM
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8. Bill Nelson of FL needs to take a one way ticket to some distant
...place also
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 10:50 AM
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9. If they are going to go along with Bush at every turn and then
sabotage our fellow democrats actually trying to do the right thing, fuck'em. What's the point of being an opposition party if you're not going to be an OPPOSITION PARTY!!!

Both Joes are an insult to us, Joe Biden would rather sit in a tanning booth than help the American people. Joe Lieberman is too busy making out with Bush, to help our cause.

Just because they happen to have a (D) next to their names that doesn't mean they are exempt from our scurtiny.

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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 11:15 AM
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10. It's more important to win back the House & Senate
I would rather keep Lieberman & Biden in the Senate than risking losing still another Senate seat and get closer to being literally powerless with less than 40 seats.

Connecticut has a very vulnerable Congressman in Rob Simmons - Simmons barely beat Jim Sullivan last time around, even though Sullivan was practically a political novice who got outspent at least 4 or 5 to 1.

Also, moderate Republican Chris Shays won a tough battle against Diane Farrell and may be ripe for the taking as well if he finds himself up against a well financed challenger.

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