Think about what will happen to the Republican Party if * loses

They will have lost their shining beacon of bullshit. They can no longer stand by and simply say * is a great man and we should just go with what he says because he's so great.

They will be forced to come up with REAL counterpoints!

strawdog like President Crotchsock.

and will do whatever he's told to do.

trying to generate accusations for another moral scandal on who ever we elect.

for 2008 ?????

I would think that Jeb's political career would be over if * loses. There must be really bad feelings between the two already, since * usurped Jeb's standing in the family and their hopes for a Jeb presidency.

I am starting to think he stole his re-election, so many people hurt by his policies. He has alienated the legislature, and on and on. Of course the christian right adore him mindlessly, but a friend of mine is very active in the Republican party and attended fund raisers and luncheons with jebbie there, etc. The friend says all the repugs in Florida know that jebbie has been having an affair.

They will have invested 4 years propping up Bush and the "poof". Who is heir apparent? It can't be Cheney - he's got multiple bad hearts.

I think post-2004, the country will be through with the Bush's for quite a while.

Bush came out of nowhere... the GOP picked an obscure candidate with little experience and threw the weight of their political machine behind him. They can do the same with another candidate just as easily.

Bush does not have the power, and getting rid of Bush won't get rid of the power. He's a pawn.

But, not too many people can say their daddy was also President. At least Poppy was elected.

Powell
Ashcroft
Rumpsfeld.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Ann Coulter trotted out if Hillary Clinton runs for the White House.

All of this is of course assuming that the Party keeps up the pretext of holding elections after 2008.

I do think for all their bluster they are woefully short on national talent, while I think the Democratic party is actually looking better in this area.

I'm surprised that Ricky Santorum of PA (unfortunately from my state) hasn't risen in the star power of the Repug party as much as it was predicted here he would. But Ricky is as dumb as Dopey in the WH, just a bit more polished.

There will hopefully be multiple investigations on all their corruption and lawlessness. Maybe the "liberal" press will feel courage and get off their asses and do their job looking into all of these scandals.

I also think that the right wingers will try to do a repeat of their Clinton-Era attacks on whatever Dem sends aWol back to Crawford.

welcome to the DU! :D

There aren't a whole lot of folks waiting in the wings for the Republicans. Jeb, maybe? Or will his brand of folksy, whimsical, screwing of the poor look a little too much like his older brother? Crash Cart? People will be jumping out at him from around corners, hoping to frighten him into the last cardiac arrest. Who else do the Republicans have?

Meanwhile, the Democrats have people elbowing each other out of the way for a chance to run against Chimpy. Naturally, only one person will be the nominee, but a lot of young candidates are gaining valuable experience in this run, even if they don't win the nomination.

As they protest by burning down mosques and assaulting muslims, slander the new President relentlessly with angry lie after angry lie, and attack anyone with a liberal leaning; all in the name of Jesus.

to forget that it is unpatriotic to critise the President in "a time of war".

But fuck 'em all, they're going to be out of the White House for a long time thanks to the debacle of the Bush* Adminstration.

And that is the gist of it!

So you're saying that Wesley Clark will suddenly become a Republican after he becomes Vice President???

I remember how nasty the republicans were towards Clinton (and remain). But since I was a wee lad when Carter was president, can some of the older DUers tell me if the republicans were as hostile and vitriolic then as well. Just trying to imagine what it will be like when a Dem takes office in 04.

The GOP has always been the 'bully' party, since just after Eisenhower. While politics has always been brutal, but in the end, generally, the sides retired, and the individual that was elected was allowed to lead the country.

JFK was brutalized by the conservative media of the time. He was often accused of being a "Red", and was accused of pandering to different groups. After his assassination, he became a mythical hero of sorts, but we will never know how his second term, the one that could have changed everything, could have panned out.

Johnson, was beaten daily in the press, and after the Tonkin Gulf fiasco, all hell broke loose. For a few minutes, the RWer's loved him because he escalated the war in SE Asia, but just as suddenly, the RWer's changed their tune, as did the rest of the nation, and they put their power behind....

Nixon! All gloves came off, and the GOP tried to make Hubert Humphrey look like Lenin, Stalin and Castro combined. Nixon resigned before being impeached and tried, and Ford kind of moseyed through the rest of the term. Ford, a genuinely nice man, was not exactly presidential material, and the country looked to someone, "different". This new person was essentially an, "unknown", Jimmy Carter.

From the very begining, at the inauguration, he was vilified by the RW because he insisted being sworn in as "Jimmy Carter", as oppopsed to "James Earl Carter". The RW and the GOP kept nipping at his heels for four years of a mediocre presidency, that did have a few highlights. Carter's main mistake was micro-managment. If he let those trained to do the job, just do it, he would have come out much better. Carter, no mental lightweight, (he was a Lt. Commander in the Navy, and took a course in Nuclear Physics that had something like a 98% washout rate, and aced it), has been exemplary since his presidency, and was, besides Harry Truman, (during my lifetime), the only president that didn't cast his principles to the wind. But that didn't stop the GOP fromm eating him alive.

Reagan..Never mind.

ghw bush...never mind

Clinton...jury still out

bush...a complete failure, but for some odd reason, not drawing the fire he should.

In essence....the GOP and the neo-con RWer's will do ANYTHING to win and remain in power.

:bounce: :kick:

They'll still have the corporate media, the corporations, and the rightwing. They may just have to get Diebold a little busier. ;-)

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of future actions....then expetc the Rethugs to

- Try to invalidate the election, taking it to the courts, and trying to overturn the results

- Run an impeachment campaign from day one.

- Pull shit like 'October Surprise' and Iran Contra in order to make President (INSERT NAME HERE 2 YEARS FROM NOW) (D-US) look bad.

- Tell us black is white, and war is peace.

He's pretty popular among the uninformed. Never mind that he's pro-choice and pro-gun control. Ideology will be set aside if it interferes with their power grab. Just look at Ahnuld in California. Never underestimate the enemy, especially when the enemy happens to be Republican.

The Republican Party seems to thrive on being the underdog. They are excellent at drumming up pity and fear. "Look out the liberals are trying to take away your <religion, freedom, paycheck, guns>." Look out the liberals are trying to make you <like minorities, pay for demonic art, have abortions.>" Never mind that it is for the most part hogwash. Republicans are great at playing the victim role to their advantage. Get a few rabid preachers up on the podium, talking about how their ministry is in jeopardy from godless liberals. Have the sad sack corporate leaders whine about how the tax and spend liberals are driving their companies in the ground. Use a force of AM radio nutcases brainwash target possible democratic constituencies. Losing only makes them come back stronger.

is an act of treason. I doubt that will ever stop being fun.