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Stop_the_War Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 04:51 PM
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Here is a map of ANWR
Edited on Wed Mar-16-05 04:54 PM by Stop_the_War
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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 04:53 PM
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1. So the caribou are toast.
Another species eradicated by human hubris.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 04:55 PM
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2. Link to US Fish and Wildlife Service rpt of impact of oil and gas devment
Edited on Wed Mar-16-05 05:00 PM by BrklynLiberal
This U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service page was written in 2001. Potential impacts of proposed oil and gas development on the Arctic Refuge’s coastal plain: Historical overview and issues of concern. Web page of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge,Fairbanks, Alaska. 17 January 2001.

Also has lots of maps and pictures.

http://arctic.fws.gov/issues1.htm
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 04:55 PM
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3. Why doesn't the governor of Alaska tell them to "get out"?
Doesn't he and the other Alaskans have a say?
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 04:56 PM
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4. He is on their side. He has been pushing for this for years.
Edited on Wed Mar-16-05 05:00 PM by BrklynLiberal
To him all it means is job$.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,129383,00.html

Alaska Gov. Pushes for Oil Drilling Near ANWR

Thursday, August 19, 2004

PRUDHOE BAY, Alaska — Just mentioning "ANWR" (search) and oil drilling in the same breath is bound to touch off a controversy.

But the governor of Alaska says it's a non-issue because he plans to search for oil on state land just off the shore from the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.

Republican Gov. Frank Murkowski (search) said he is encouraging oil companies to begin test drilling as early as January on the first three miles of submerged land off the Alaska coast, land that belongs to the state.

"We are a sovereign state and we have this authority and I hope we find a big puddle down there," Murkowski said.

Two years ago, Congress scratched a plan to explore for oil in ANWR after environmental groups argued it would harm the native porcupine caribou. Now, groups say drilling by the state could decimate the seal, polar bear and bowhead whale supply, which Eskimos (search) rely on for sustenance.

"This isn't environmentalists being alarmists ... it's a situation where we're being alarmed," said Bob Randall of Trustees for Alaska (search).
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 04:59 PM
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6. Well then.........Prayer for the day
May he be eaten by a Polar Bear.

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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 04:58 PM
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5. Alaskans were bribed and bought a long time ago.
All Alaskans get a big government (kickback, bribe) check each year from fees for oil produced in the state. Given that fact, it's not surprising that most Alaskans fully support drilling in ANWR.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 05:01 PM
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7. The Alaskans have chosen to live in a hard but beautiful place....
The ones who aren't tough enough need monetary help to support their lifestyle.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 05:08 PM
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8. Well, it ain't gonna be beautiful for very much longer...
Edited on Wed Mar-16-05 05:15 PM by BrklynLiberal
This is what it will look like.






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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 05:14 PM
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11. Uggh! That's disgusting
:-(
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 05:12 PM
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10. it will be an economic boon
And I think there is a feeling that there is so much land that the ANWR won't be missed.

Living in the Boundary Waters state (and growing up next to the wilderness) I can attest to the feeling that people who live in the area feel a certain ownership over the land.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 05:11 PM
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9. this makes me want to cry....
what a fucking fucked up four more years of hell to live through.

:cry:
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 05:43 PM
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12. I remember them saying that the oil from ANWR was
promised to Asia. I don't remember where I read it. I have since looked at maps of ocean currents and I see that the current run up the west coast of America, turns west at Alaska, then heads south toward Japan and east Asia. A fully loaded tanker would have to fight the current, raising costs for shipping.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 05:49 PM
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13. Since the caribou migrate
would it be possible or beneficial to demand that they only work on building the darn thing, while the caribou are away?

Once the pipeline is in place, wouldn't life around be able to sort of go back to normal?

I'm trying to look at this from a biological POV and find out, is there a way to do this sort of project and minimize the impact?

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