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JackD76 Donating Member (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 09:30 PM
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TOTAL COST OF IRAQ WAR (((((((MUST READ))))))))))
Edited on Thu Mar-17-05 10:23 PM by JackD76
So You want to know what the Iraq war is costing? Ok.

Total American Deaths
1518

Total Americans Injured
11,069

Total Iraqi Deaths caused by Insurgents and U.S. Military Operations
Between 17,053 and 100,000
(Two reports now say over 100,000)

Total English Deaths
86

Total Polish Deaths
17

Total Spanish Deaths
11

Total Italian Deaths
22

Total Ukrainian deaths
18

Total Bulgarian Deaths
8

Other Deaths
14

Total U.S. Deaths since "Bring 'em on"
1312

Total U.S. Deaths since "Mission Accomplished
1381

Total U.S. Deaths since Elections
86

Amount of Money Spent in Iraq
$156,734,040,355

Amount Spent in Iraq every Second
$3000

Total Cost Bush Administration Projected
$1.9 Billion

Projected Final Cost of Iraq War
$300 Billion

Amount that Halliburton has Made off of Iraq war Thus Far
$11 Billion

Total Amount Halliburton has Overcharged U.S. Government
$108 million


#####Iraq War Costs Compared to Other Costs to date################


Number of Children that Could have Attended Head Start Schools for one year
20,759,777-One more child every 2 seconds

Number of Children Who Could have been Insured for one Year
93,854,330-One More Child every second

Total Number of Teachers that Could Have Been Hired for One Year
2,716,268-One More Teacher every 25 Seconds

Total Number of 4 Year University Scholarships that Could Have Been Handed Out
7,598,273-One More Scholarship every 5 Seconds

Total Number of Public Housing Units that Could Have Been Build
1,411,272-One More Unit every 40 Seconds

Number of Years that U.S. Could Have Fully Funded Anti-Hunger Efforts
6

Number of Years that U.S. Could Have Fully Funded AIDS Programs
15

Total Number of Years that U.S. Could Have ensured that every child in the world was given basic immunizations
52
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 09:41 PM
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1. Lets send this around as a chain letter. Thank you for posting this.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 09:44 PM
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2. You might want to change your title. For some reason no one is
looking at this post and it really should be seen by everyone.
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JackD76 Donating Member (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 09:57 PM
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7. What should the title be?
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:02 PM
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9. Your guess is as good as mine
It looks like it's getting some views now. I have posted things that sunk to the bottom of the page then I changed the Title to something like "Bush is a Fucking Ass Hole" (just an example not something I ever used) and then it got all kinds of hits. You never know what catches peoples attention and what does not.
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Lone Pawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 09:46 PM
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3. Too much white space on the page.
It looks too empty. Tighten it up for greater impact.
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JackD76 Donating Member (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:06 PM
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10. Is That Better?
Still Looking for a New Title
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Lone Pawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:15 PM
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16. Let's try this:
Punchier for email--less scrolling, seems more solid.

Total American Deaths: 1518
Total Americans Injured: 11,069
Total Iraqi Deaths caused by Insurgents and U.S. Military Operations: over 100,000
Total English Deaths: 86
Total Polish Deaths: 17
Total Spanish Deaths: 11
Total Italian Deaths: 22
Total Ukrainian deaths: 18
Total Bulgarian Deaths: 8
Other Deaths: 14
Total U.S. Deaths since "Bring 'em on": 1312
Total U.S. Deaths since "Mission Accomplished: 1381
Total U.S. Deaths since Iraqi Elections: 86

Amount of Money Spent in Iraq: $156,734,040,355
Amount Spent in Iraq every Second: $3000
Total Cost Bush Administration Projected: $1,900,000,000
Projected Final Cost of Iraq War: $300,000,000,000

Amount that Halliburton has Made off of Iraq war Thus Far: $9.6 Billion
Total Amount Halliburton has Overcharged U.S. Government: $180 million


#####Iraq War Costs Compared to Other Costs to date################

Number of Children that Could have Attended Head Start Schools for one year:
20,759,777-One more child every 2 seconds

Number of Children Who Could have been Insured for one Year:
93,854,330-One More Child every second

Total Number of Teachers that Could Have Been Hired for One Year:
2,716,268-One More Teacher every 25 Seconds

Total Number of 4 Year University Scholarships that Could Have Been Handed Out:
7,598,273-One More Scholarship every 5 Seconds

Total Number of Public Housing Units that Could Have Been Built:
1,411,272-One More Unit every 40 Seconds

Number of Years that U.S. Could Have Fully Funded World Anti-Hunger Efforts: 6
Number of Years that U.S. Could Have Fully Funded AIDS Programs: 15
Total Number of Years that U.S. Could Have ensured that every child in the world was given basic immunizations: 52
 
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Lone Pawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 01:28 AM
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35. I believe this is slightly better looking.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 01:53 AM
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38. I disagree with the "projected final cost" of $300 billion . . .
given that we're not intending to leave, the war will go on indefinitely, and the cost will rise indefinitely . . . the question becomes "when will the cost of the Iraq war reach one trillion dollars?" . . . five years maybe? . . .
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Lone Pawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 02:31 AM
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40. It's not mine, it's his.
I just reformatted it.
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 05:38 PM
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58. it's fine....you're doing good work to bring this to everyone's attention


it's the NEWS that has to be told....thanks JackD76
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 09:47 PM
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4. But it made oil cheaper!
Err...and they were threatening us...Weren't they? I mean it eliminated WMDs...no wait it killed the people that did 9-11...and we got Saddam cause he was killing his people people we are now killing? Well any way the Democratic election that took place was worth it and that was the reason we invaded Iraq. Baghdad may be the most dangerous city in the world now but in 100 years when the oil is gone Iraqis will thank us!
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 04:38 PM
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54. gas around here now at $ 2.54 a gallon.....


:puke:
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 09:47 PM
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5. yeah, but baseball players took steroids!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OMG!:o

Is Congress fucked up or what?
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chlamor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 09:56 PM
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6. KICK
I've seen an updated figure on Iraqi deaths which calculates the toll at .4 million. That may seem astonishing but what the figure represents is adjustment for mortality rate due to war. It is not calculating simply the deaths directly caused by war. I should go look for it and post it. It was a reliable source, made a copy of it and read it to others. We need a huge turnout all across US this weekend and sustained actions all spring and summer. Nothing less is acceptable. It is now up to us to get off our collective derrieres and into the streets. See you there.

Please tighten this up so a one or two page copy can be made for distribution.
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 04:50 PM
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55. kick


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tinonedown Donating Member (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:00 PM
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8. Surprising as the numbers are
They seem a little conservative. I've seen estimated death numbers quoted a lot higher. And certainly financial costs are higher.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:08 PM
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11. thank you, JackD -- I'm converting this to 48-pt font ...
... printing it out, and carrying it as a sign at the local protest on Mar 19th.


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JackD76 Donating Member (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:09 PM
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13. I will get a list of sources togeather
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:47 PM
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26. Perhaps you could send this out to all the Liberal Blogs. nt
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JackD76 Donating Member (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 01:46 AM
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37. You Have My Permission
To post this on any blog, print this out and give it to people, email, whatever. Just as long as the info is out there and people know the truth.
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AnotherMother4Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:08 PM
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12. I didn't want to read this thread because
of the shear utter tragedy of it. What is/was the reason for this war? WMD's? Spreading democracy? 9-11? Bin Laden? Oil? I hope to God that someone is held accountable.

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JackD76 Donating Member (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:17 PM
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17. Sources
<http://costofwar.com>
<http://icasualties.org/oif/>
<http://www.michaelmoore.com/>
<http://www.publicintegrity.org/wow/resources.aspx?act=total>
<http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/>
<http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050315/pl_nm/iraq_halliburton_dc_8>

Two Changes that I have to make.

1. Halliburton has made over $11 billion in Iraq, not $9.6 billion

2. Halliburton has overcharged $108 million, not $180 million
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 05:18 PM
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57. it's shameful to our once-great nation....


it's going to take a LOT OF OUTRAGE to turn this around...
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:12 PM
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14. 4 years of health care for every man, woman and child in the U.S.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:15 PM
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15. Thats a part that caught my attention as well. nt
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Daphne08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 08:39 AM
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45. OMG!
When it is put like that, it leaves me speechless.
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 10:18 PM
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60. sad, real sad....tragic.....


:crazy:
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 10:58 AM
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65. bump


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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:27 PM
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18. a half-century of vaccinations for the planet's children ...
The gratitude of billions of parents would do quite a bit to erase bin Laden's anti-US propaganda, I'm thinking!
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JackD76 Donating Member (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:30 PM
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19. Keep in Mind
That those costs are all individual, not together. For example, the total cost of sending people to the four year college is the same as the Iraq war.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:32 PM
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21. would it be possible to come up with figures for a sum total?
I recall seeing a Cold War spending poster during the anti-nuclear protests that listed x number of schools funded, children immunized, etc., and the concluding line was "all of the above". It made quite an impression.
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JackD76 Donating Member (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:34 PM
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22. Just take 1/8th off all of the totals
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JackD76 Donating Member (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:41 PM
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24. Here you go
Edited on Thu Mar-17-05 10:42 PM by JackD76
Head Start Schools for one year

2,594,972

Insured Children for one year

11,731,791

Hired teachers for one year

339,533

4 year scholarships

949,784

Public Housing Units

176,409

Anti-Hunger Programs

273 days

Aids Programs

2 years

Immunization

6.5 years


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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 07:13 PM
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66. thanks everyone!
Here's what I came up with at home, the night before the protest.

I listed the casualty figures, then the war cost so far, and the $300 billion estimated cost -- and the Halliburton profits. Then ...

"Immunize the world's children, 20 years.

PLUS 500,000 new public housing units

PLUS 4-year scholarships for 1.8 million college students"




(Actually, that all comes to less than $300 billion.)


A lot of people stopped to look at my sign, and several photographed it.

I was kind of on a roll after all this, so in class today (we were talking about global income disparities) I used the war costs so far, and the 20-year immunization thing again (it comes to about $116 billion as I recall) -- actually less than the combined wealth of Bill Gates, the Wal-Mart lady, and that Buffett investor guy. (And they have more than the 48 poorest countries.)
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 06:23 PM
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63. bump....


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AnotherMother4Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:31 PM
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20. How does one nominate a thread for "greatest"?
This is info every American needs to be slapped in the face with. This is the gapping, oozing sore no one wants to look at. The media & Bush admin treats this info like the dead soldiers returning from Iraq - out -of-sight, out-of-mind
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JackD76 Donating Member (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:34 PM
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23. Vote on the lead post at the bottom
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AnotherMother4Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:44 PM
Response to Reply #23
25. Thanks - I got a message saying I don't have enough posts
But I can give this a couple of kicks
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:48 PM
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27. I don't see why you should be promoting the DOD figures.
1,518 American deaths?

Shouldn't soldiers who died later in hospital from wounds received on the battlefield be counted as war dead?

Shouldn't American mercenaries be included in this figure?

11,069 American injuries?

There's plent of evidence that it is far far higher than this. There've been plenty of threads here about that.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 01:39 AM
Response to Reply #27
36. ALL soldiers who are mortally wounded in Iraq but die elsewhere ARE
included in the DOD figures.

Why should mercs be included?
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 02:25 AM
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39. I guess I misunderstood then.
Your point 1: "ALL soldiers who are mortally wounded in Iraq but die elsewhere ARE included in the DOD figures."

Response: Okay, if you say so, I'll accept it. I thought those who died later in Germany or the US were not included.

Your point 2: Why should mercs be included?

Because it says "Total American Deaths" in the OP. It's kind of misleading if you leave out civilians.

Final point: The injury figures are surely understated. In this interview, for example, a neurosurgeon stationed at Landstuhl hospital seemed to acknowledge in October that the 33,000 figure who have sought VA care is legit.

http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/20254

"I've seen the breakdown of that 33,000 number (who've sought VA care) and they include a significant percent of spine injuries. As a neurosurgeon, I saw all the complaints in that area and I can only say that there's an overwhelming number of them."
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 09:38 AM
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47. A common misunderstanding.
1. Check the details on the ICCC page; notice how many soldiers are listed as having died in the US or Germany etc.

2. If civilians willingly go into Iraq, that's their problem; soldiers & Iraqis don't have the choice.

3. The 11,000 wounded figure is Wounded In Action. The 30,000 figure includes gyno problems, kidney stones, etc.



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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 05:17 AM
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42. 78 American contractors reported killed so far. May be more.
Edited on Fri Mar-18-05 05:24 AM by oblivious
http://icasualties.org/oif/Civ.aspx

12-Mar-2005 Bruce Durr - American - Roadside bomb Hillah, south of Baghdad Security Consultant Blackwater
12-Mar-2005 Cantrell, Jim - American - Roadside bomb Hillah, s. of Baghdad Security Consultant Blackwater
03-Mar-2005 Riddle, Jimmy A. - American - IED Ashraf Security Guard Special Operations Consulting-Security
03-Mar-2005 Wagoner, Brian J. - American - IED Ashraf Security Guard Special Operations Consulting-Security
03-Jan-2005 Hushin, Tracy - American - Suicide car bomb Baghdad Financial manager BearingPoint,
21-Dec-2004 Davis, Leslie W. American Suicide bomber FOB Marez, Mosul Construction, QC KBR
21-Dec-2004 Smith, Allen American Suicide bomber FOB Marez, Mosul Constr. labor foreman KBR
21-Dec-2004 Stramiello Jr., Anthony M. American Suicide bomber Mosul Constr. carpenter foreman KBR
21-Dec-2004 Hunter, Brett A. American Suicide bomber FOB Marez, Mosul Lab technician KBR
08-Dec-2004 Wemple, Joseph American Shot and killed outside Baghdad Engineering-construction
08-Dec-2004 Stoffel, Dale American Shot and killed outside Baghdad Baghdad(outside) Executive vice president
15-Nov-2004 Aaron Iversen American Roadside Bomb unknown security contractor EOD Technology Inc.
14-Nov-2004 Weis, Wolf American Ambush Near Mosul Contractor
12-Nov-2004 Tatar, Mike American friendly small arms fire Unknown Security Contractor DynCorp
10-Nov-2004 Thomas, Douglas S. American Roadside Bomb Tikrit Security Contractor DynCorp
09-Nov-2004 Randolph, David American Unknown Fallujah (near) Weapons Disposal EOD Technology
03-Nov-2004 Serrett, Jeffery American Small arms fire Baghdad Abu Ghraib Medic Halliburton
27-Oct-2004 Schnoor, Travis American Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack Baghdad (west of) Security contractor
19-Oct-2004 Lugo III, Felipe E. American Mortar attack Baghdad Labor Foreman Halliburton
14-Oct-2004 Pinsonneault, John American Suicide Bomb Baghdad Security Guard DynCorp
14-Oct-2004 Osborne, Steve American Suicide Bomb Baghdad Security Guard DynCorp
14-Oct-2004 Miner, Eric American Suicide Bomb Baghdad Security Guard DynCorp
28-Sep-2004 Moffett, Roger American Roadside bombing Iraq Convoy commander Halliburton
21-Sep-2004 Hensley, Jack American Execution, beheading Baghdad (?) Civil engineer Gulf Services Co.
20-Sep-2004 Armstrong, Eugene American Execution, beheading Baghdad (?) Civil engineer Gulf Services Co.
14-Sep-2004 Engstrom, Todd American Convoy attack (RPG) Balad Security contractor EOD Technologies
10-Sep-2004 Bowers, William Earl American Vehicle attack Baghdad VP/engineer SEI Group, Inc.
04-Sep-2004 Mallery, John N. American Vehicle attack Taji (N. of Baghdad) Project manager MayDay Supply
11-Aug-2004 Rader, Kevin American Convoy attack Not reported Truckdriver KBR (subsidiary of Halliburton)
01-Aug-2004 Wagner, Robert American IED attack Not reported Security contractor
19-Jul-2004 Copley, Mike American Rocket attack Samarra Bradley maintenance technician United Defense
02-Jul-2004 Richerson, Vern O'Neal American Mortar attack Landstuhl, Germany Construction foreman KBR
27-Jun-2004 Arguelles, Joseph American Transp. plane over Baghdad Elec. power specialist Readiness Mgmt.
17-Jun-2004 Zbryski, Walter J. American IED attack Not reported Truckdriver KBR
14-Jun-2004 Hoke II, Bill American Car Bomb Baghdad Power industry worker Granite Services, Inc.
14-Jun-2004 Sprague III, Rex G. American Convoy attack Baghdad (rd to Airport) Security contractor Titan
13-Jun-2004 Fyfe, Shaun American Natural causes Iraq Construction worker Environmental Chemical Corp. Int'l
05-Jun-2004 Wingate, James Gregory American IED attack Haditha (Near) Truckdriver KBR
02-Jun-2004 Bruce, Richard American Vehicle accident Not reported Security Contractor Blackwater
30-May-2004 Tow, Bruce American Ambush Baghdad Security contractor DynCorp
13-May-2004 Gentry, Jesse American Vehicle accident Tikrit (near) Security contractor DynCorp International
13-May-2004 Doll, Henry "Hank" American Vehicle accident Tikrit Security contractor DynCorp
10-May-2004 Berg, Nick American Execution, beheading Baghdad (?) Businessman
07-May-2004 Parker, Daniel American IED attack Baghdad (near Int'l Airport) Security contractor KBR
01-May-2004 Kilpatrick, Christian F. American RPG Tikrit Security Contractor DynCorp
30-Apr-2004 Price, Mike American IED attack Bayji (near) Security Contractor Cochise Constultancy
25-Apr-2004 Foster, Vincent American IED attack Bayji (near) Security contractor Cochise Consultancy, Inc.
25-Apr-2004 Carter, Thomas American IED attack Bayji (near) Security contractor Cochise Consultancy, Inc.
09-Apr-2004 Hulett, Stephen American Convoy attack Baghdad (Abu Ghuraib) Truckdriver KBR
09-Apr-2004 Montague, Jack American Convoy attack Baghdad (Abu Ghuraib) Truckdriver KBR
09-Apr-2004 Parker, Jeffery American Convoy attack Baghdad (Abu Ghuraib) Truckdriver KBR
09-Apr-2004 Johnson, Tony Duane American Convoy attack Baghdad (Abu Ghuraib) Truckdriver KBR
09-Apr-2004 Fisher, Steven Scott American Convoy attack Baghdad (Abu Ghuraib) Truckdriver KBR
09-Apr-2004 Bradley, William American Convoy attack Baghdad (near Abu Ghuraib Prison) Truckdriver KBR
08-Apr-2004 Smith, Tim American Convoy attack? Unknown Truckdriver KBR
03-Apr-2004 Mikha, Emad American Hostile circumstances Muqdadiyah Translator Titan
31-Mar-2004 Teague, Michael American RPG attack Fallujah Security contractor Blackwater Security
31-Mar-2004 Helvenston, Scott American RPG attack Fallujah Security contractor Blackwater Security
31-Mar-2004 Zovko, Jerko "Jerry" American RPG attack Fallujah Security contractor Blackwater Security
31-Mar-2004 Batalona, Wesley American RPG attack Fallujah Security contractor Blackwater Security
23-Feb-2004 Cayton, Albert Luther "Al" American IED attack Not reported Truckdriver supervisor KBR
16-Feb-2004 Parks, Ray American Ambushed Baghdad Contractor American Services Center
26-Jan-2004 Linderman Jr., Arthur American Convoy attack nr. Tikrit Newark, DE Truckdriver KBR
21-Jan-2004 Deatherage, Jody American Vehicle accident Iraq Truckdriver KBR
13-Dec-2003 Manelick, Ryan American Small arms fire attack Company officer Ultra Services.Irex Corp.
23-Nov-2003 Drobnick, Todd American Vehicle accident Mosul Translator team manager Titan National
23-Nov-2003 Sinclair, Gordon American Vehicle accident Mosul Translator operations director Titan
17-Nov-2003 McJennett, Brent American Land mine Tikrit Communications contractor Proactive Commun.
13-Nov-2003 Unknown American Small arms fire attack Balad
02-Nov-2003 Buckmaster, Roy American IED attack Fallujah Bomb disposal expert EOD Technology, Inc.
02-Nov-2003 Dyess, David American IED attack Fallujah Bomb disposal expert EOD Technology, Inc.
03-Sep-2003 Gaston, Vernon American Small arms fire attack Baghdad Truckdriver KBR
20-Aug-2003 Unknown American Small arms fire attack Tikrit Translator U.S. Army
05-Aug-2003 Bryant Jr., Fred American IED attack Tikrit (near) Truckdriver KBR
10-Apr-2003 Grimm, Robert American Vehicle accident Kuwait, nr. Iraq border Fireman National Response
01-Jan-1900 Pinsonneault, John American Suicide bomb 10/14/2004 Security Guard DynCorp
01-Jan-1900 Osborne, Steve American Suicide bomb 10/14/2004 Security Guard
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 09:41 AM
Response to Reply #42
48. I know...I help with the ICCC.
;)


And again, they CHOSE to be there. Soldiers & Iraqis don't have such a choice.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:48 PM
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28. As Ed Schultz would say: "Serve it up for Bagdad" nt
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:57 PM
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29. a big fatty kick
I am so sad, and I know that they have no intentions of stopping. The only thing on the march is hatred & fundamentalism. They are intentionaly inflaming every region of the world, being careful to always protect their hidden interest.

a pox on the houses of all PNACers.
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 05:06 PM
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56. "a little fatty kick"


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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 11:10 PM
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30. Bravo!
It still makes me angry when I remember the media cheering us on to war. They were grinning from ear to ear before and during the bombing, and now they want other people's children to "stay the course" while car bombs continue to kill and maim on the streets of Baghdad.

So terribly, terribly sad.
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JackD76 Donating Member (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 11:14 PM
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31. I was thinking the same thing yesterday
It seem like everytime the u.s. is talking about war, the media gets right behind them. All of the reporters what to make a name for themselves, like the reporters in WWII or Vietnam. Bastards. I hope that blogs become the main source for news.
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chlamor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 11:16 PM
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32. Total Iraqi Deaths-Estimated Between 0.2-0.4 million
Mass mortality in an Occupied country in the absence of provision of requisite medical services by the Occupiers is a war crime that can be categorized as "passive genocide".

<snip>

It can be estimated that the post-invasion under-5 infant mortality in Occupied Iraq has been about 0.2 million. However the total post-invasion avoidable mortality in Occupied Iraq can be estimated from UN <4> and medical literature <5> data to be 0.4 million as outlined below.

<snip>

According to the top medical journal The Lancet: "the crude mortality rate during the period of war and occupation was 12.3 per 1000 people per year" <5>. In comparison, a conservative estimate of what it SHOULD BE is 4.0 per thousand per year based on current death rates in Iraq's impoverished but peaceful neighbours Jordan and Syria <4>. The "excess" or "avoidable" post-invasion mortality rate is accordingly 12.3 - 4.0 = 8.3 per 1000 people per year. Assuming an Iraqi population of 25 million, the excess mortality (avoidable mortality) after 2 years of UK-US occupation has been 8.3 x 25,000 x 2 = 415,000 = 0.4 million.

It has been estimated, from data published by the UN <4>, UNICEF <3> and in the top UK medical journal The Lancet <5>, that the under-5 infant mortality and excess mortality (avoidable mortality) have been 1.2 million and 1.5 million, respectively, for Iraq since 1991; 0.2 million and 0.4 million, respectively, for Iraq since the 2003 invasion; and 0.9 million and 1.2 million, respectively, for Afghanistan since the 2001 invasion <6>.

http://www.countercurrents.org/iraq-polya110305.htm




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neonplaque Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 12:06 AM
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33. How about the 'cost' of lost wages/future earnings....
of killed service members.... The monies/income their families/children will never see cause they died?

Average age of killed soldier? (guessing): ~25
Average retirement age?: 65

= 40 years

1518 x 40 years x $40,000/yr = $2.4 Billion in lost income to families. or an average of $1.6 Million/family/soldier
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 01:26 AM
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34. It's a sad time to be intelligent and living in America
Thanks for showing the real cost of war. If only the media would educate Joe Sixpack. If only Joe Sixpack gave a shit. :(
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 02:41 AM
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41. I copied the compressed version with updates and did send it out to
everyone I know. Thanks for the post and the editing...
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 07:27 AM
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43. I wonder how much the 14 military bases we built in Iraq cost?
Most people have NO CLUE that they paid to build those bases. I wonder how many millions/billions those cost? I think most of the sheeple actually believe we will be leaving Iraq SOON. Building 14 military bases says otherwise. I wonder what we could have paid for in THIS contry with what was spent on those bases?

GREAT post Jack!

I hate the people who have done this. <sigh> Criminals. They should be tried for war crimes. :grr:
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 08:09 AM
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44. kick
:kick:
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AnotherMother4Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 09:37 AM
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46. good morning kick
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JackD76 Donating Member (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 12:22 PM
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49. Go Here
Edited on Fri Mar-18-05 12:24 PM by JackD76
If you want to argue with some smarter republicans about this topic.

<http://interactive.zogby.com/fuse/messageview.cfm?catid=22&threadid=4454>
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 12:24 PM
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50. Defintiely nominating
Very damning
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sldavis Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 01:01 PM
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51. this is going to everyone in my contact list
It's getting hard and harder for my repug friends and family to deny that this war is out of control. Thanks for posting!
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JackD76 Donating Member (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 03:07 PM
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52. Another Clarification
When it says "Total U.S. deaths since elections" is 86, that is the Iraqi elections. Since the U.S. elections, there has been 397 deaths.
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JackD76 Donating Member (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 03:17 PM
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53. Revised Addition
Total American Deaths
1518

Total Americans Injured
11,069

Total Iraqi Deaths caused by Insurgents and U.S. Military Operations
Between 17,053 and 100,000
(Two reports now say over 100,000)

Total English Deaths
86

Total Polish Deaths
17

Total Spanish Deaths
11

Total Italian Deaths
22

Total Ukrainian deaths
18

Total Bulgarian Deaths
8

Other Deaths
14

Total U.S. Deaths since "Bring 'em on"
1312

Total U.S. Deaths since "Mission Accomplished
1381

Total U.S. Deaths since U.S. Elections
397

Total U.S. Deaths since Iraqi Elections
86

Total U.S. Contractor's Deaths
78

Amount of Money Spent in Iraq
$156,734,040,355

Amount Spent in Iraq every Second
$3000

Total Cost Bush Administration Projected
$1.9 Billion

Projected Final Cost of Iraq War
Currently $300 Billion

Amount that Halliburton has Made off of Iraq war Thus Far
$11 Billion

Total Amount Halliburton has Overcharged U.S. Government
$108 million


#####What We Could Have Got, Instead of the Iraq War################
-Note, each of these figures would cost as much as the Iraq War

Number of Children that Could have Attended Head Start Schools for one year
20,759,777-One more child every 2 seconds

Number of Children Who Could have been Insured for one Year
93,854,330-One More Child every second

Total Number of Teachers that Could Have Been Hired for One Year
2,716,268-One More Teacher every 25 Seconds

Total Number of 4 Year University Scholarships that Could Have Been Handed Out
7,598,273-One More Scholarship every 5 Seconds

Total Number of Public Housing Units that Could Have Been Build
1,411,272-One More Unit every 40 Seconds

Number of Years that U.S. Could Have Fully Funded Anti-Hunger Efforts
6

Number of Years that U.S. Could Have Fully Funded AIDS Programs
15

Total Number of Years that U.S. Could Have ensured that every child in the world was given basic immunizations
52
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AnotherMother4Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 07:35 PM
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59. So so sad - and what was the reason?
The spread of democracy, WMD's, Osama, 9-11, oil? If it was Osama & 9-11 why the hell did we invade Iraq? Why not Spain or Japan? I thought Osama was in Afghanistan.

March & make yourself heard tomorrow!!!
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 10:23 PM
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61. .
:kick:
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 01:32 PM
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62. KICK
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 04:05 AM
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64. .
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 07:59 PM
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67. kick n/t
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Joz Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 08:06 PM
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68. Democratic Campaign Strategy for '06 (should've been for '04)
"Imagine what we could do in America with $150 million a day."
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