why SHOULDN'T America rule the world?

that's the PNAC plan, total global takeover and American domination.

is that so wrong?

Let em have at it! The ethnic cleansing thing should work out FINE.

As do all countries that try the multi-front war concept.

They all colapse.

I mean the only way anybody can stop us right now is if the whole world banded together. Like it or not (and I prefer it to the alternative) we are the big dog on the planet.

The problem is that we won't be that forever, and the Bush policy seems to consist in acting like we will own the world forever. We are making enemies all over that we don't need to make on the theory that they can't do anything about disliking us anyway. Except, you know, down the road they might be able to.

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So don't rule out the whole world uniting against us.

the world would not survive.

the 'know how'!

What kind of civilization are we going to bring? So far in Iraq it's been death and destruction. Stealing oil wells and oil. Our civilization consists of TV - reality TV because Americans are too brain dead to have a lift of adventure on their own. They should join the army. Our education is horrible. Our health care is the worst of all the industrilizaed nations because we insist our citizens pay for it. We're sending all the high paying jobs overseas. We sending manufacturing overseas.

you can't civilize by slaughter. if you slaughter, you are not civilized.

kind of how the europeans slaughtered the "filthy savages" to "civilize" them.

every society has it's share of great thinkers and artists, but that does not make that society any more civilized than any other. The Romans slaughtered hundreds of thousands of animals (including people) in their coliseum. That is not terrible civilized. I don't know exactly why we've had Greek and Roman civilization shoved down our throats for the last several hundred years as the epitome of human development, when clearly there are many more civilized groups of people running around naked living in huts on islands.

The PNAC vision of "rule" is one where America has complete power over the rest of the world with no corresponding responsibility. We take everything we want, and if there are crumbs left the rest of the world can have them.

Wir sind die menschen auf die Amnerikaner Geheime Volk!

Wir schlangen genen die Auslaender!

Domination is not an end in itself. It's important to know what America would do with world domination. What we see emerging is a pretty ugly picture, and I don't think it's what most Americans, not to mention the rest of the world, would like to see.

Now, there is another approach to world domination on the agenda. It is something that seems to be evolving from the European Union. That domination is primarily characterized by win-win economic relationships among consenting adult partner states.

Participating countries surrender some of their sovereignty in exchange for preferred trade relations with a rich economic union and a virtual promise of short to medium term future prosperity. To the extent that there is domination it is collective domination among equals. Admittedly some are a bit more equal than others, but the coercion factor is pretty low.

To ask whether it is "wrong" for America to dominate is beside the point. Few political questions are decided on matters of right and wrong. They are decided by who holds the power at the moment. In the current economic war, which pits American and Japan (to some extent) against the EU, Russian and China, the side that wins will set the agenda about what type of world domination will ensue.

I'm placing my bets on the other guys. All they have to do is call in our debts and it's game over.

"All they have to do is call in our debts and it's game over", you say. What would happen if the States were to say "Fuck you, what debt?" and just take over foreign-owned assets. It's not outside the realm of possibility. After all, the US government welshed on the Anti-ballistic Missile Treaty in favour of missile defence, and that was a signed contract between nations, so who's to say you won't welsh on your debts? Well, I figure you'd probably get away with it, too, at least for a while. In that respect, you are correct that political questions are generally decided by who holds the power at the moment, rather than on matters of right and wrong.

One thing's for sure: due to the unilateral abrogation of the ABM treaty, the rest of the world cannot possibly trust the United States or believe anything she says ever again. America's word is now shit.

I've grown quite cynical about our species over the years. It didn't start with the Bush administration, but they helped.

I think if you want to take steroids to make a extra couple million dollars, do it. You have to win in this world. Cheating is just another way to go about winning.

If you're a nation-state that has a big enough center of power to expand that power, do it. If China wants to take Taiwan, they should do it. If America wants to build bases in Iraq, it should be able to do it. I agree with Bolton, international law really doesn't mean much for the bigger countries. I'd like international law to mean something, but it doesn't.

If business wants to get so big that it negates whatever democracy is, technically that's just freedom working.

Everything is just too big. Population, governments, consumption, countries, business, whatever. Nobody has any control over any of them. Especially protesters. I'm all for protesting, but it doesn't get much done. Especially when the people you're protesting only use your protesting to prove what they're doing is right.

Sometimes I wish I had the ambition of the empire builder. I might be a millionaire if I did. Hell, a billionaire.

originality, vitamins and supplements banned and drugs (prescrip in this country) even more inaccessible. Everything will fall to the lowest common denominator. The world will be one big sucky, boring place.

:crazy: Wash, rinse, repeat.

The PNAC forsaw ALL this (Dollar collapse along w/ Peak oil) - PERPETUAL WAR was their answer

So what did they do to gain public support to go after diminishing global resources?

1. Steal 2000 elections - PNAC "crazies" finally gain power.

2. Fly planes into buildings - blame folks who live in oil countries.
Now the public support, impossible by any other means, is achieved
to do whatever they deem necessary. Massive military buildup,
preemptive invasion for any country, take away citizen's rights,
programs for the weaponization of space-None of this would have
been possible w/out their Pearl Harbor.

3. Invade a oil country #1 where a failed pipeline deal to the
massive Caspian oil fields (one of the untapped frontiers).

4. Invade oil country #2 w/ massive oil potential and strategic
importance.

5. Steal election # 2. Political capital to install 4th Reich powers
indefinitely.

6. Plans to invade #3 coming up soon.

7. Stupid, psychotic plan (proved through history to ALWAYS fail)
fails leading to bankrupted rednecked superpower.

With all the money they have spent on these military adventures, we could be well on our way to a renewable resource driven economy but, these Oil/MIC/shape shifters chose perpetual, multi-front wars.

There is no good answer.

Anyone who's ever played Risk will tell you, you have to consolidate your borders. Forget the middle-east. Too many entry points. We have to take Canada first. Then Mexico. Then Greenland. From there, we move on to South America, Then Europe, then Africa.

Simple.

didn't go so well. Although we did get the name "WHITE" House out of it. :D

One can lead the world by being an example of hope, liberty, strength and fairness.

Or you can dominate the world through force and intimidation, fear mongering and arrogance.

It's so sad to see a once-powerful once-great entity slowly realize it's old, worn-out, and way past its sell-by date. :(

we weren't such fucking assholes.

That is such a joke, to rule people you have to at least acknowlege them, America doesn't give a damn about anyone but white people within it's borders, if you define America by who is running it at the moment, the PNAC people.

America wants to set up an aristocracy through corporate oligarcy and then use everyone else here and elsewhere in the world for slave labor, or kill them off and steal their resources, which isn't exactly ruling, it's raping and plundering.