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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 11:15 AM
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MOYERS: "the delusional is no longer marginal"
Welcome to Doomsday
By Bill Moyers, New York Review of Books


There are times when what we journalists see and intend to write about dispassionately sends a shiver down the spine, shaking us from our neutrality. This has been happening to me frequently of late as one story after another drives home the fact that the delusional is no longer marginal but has come in from the fringe to influence the seats of power. We are witnessing today a coupling of ideology and theology that threatens our ability to meet the growing ecological crisis. Theology asserts propositions that need not be proven true, while ideologues hold stoutly to a world view despite being contradicted by what is generally accepted as reality. The combination can make it impossible for a democracy to fashion real-world solutions to otherwise intractable challenges.

In the just-concluded election cycle, as Mark Silk writes in Religion in the News,
the assiduous cultivation of religious constituencies by the Bush apparat, and the undisguised intrusion of evangelical leaders and some conservative Catholic hierarchs into the presidential campaign, demonstrated that the old rule of maintaining a decent respect for the nonpartisanship of religion can now be broken with impunity.
The result is what the Italian scholar Emilio Gentile, quoted in Silk's newsletter, calls "political religion"—religion as an instrument of political combat. On gay marriage and abortion— the most conspicuous of the "non-negotiable" items in a widely distributed Catholic voter's guide—no one should be surprised what this political religion portends. The agenda has been foreshadowed for years, ever since Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, and other right-wing Protestants set out to turn white evangelicals into a solid Republican voting bloc and reached out to make allies of their former antagonists, conservative Catholics.

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/print.php?sid=20345
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 11:17 AM
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1. Thanks for Posting
love Moyers
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 11:43 AM
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5. Not anymore so, than say an Atheists n/t
Edited on Fri Mar-18-05 11:44 AM by Snotcicles
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Stirk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 11:56 AM
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7. Give me an example of Jackson using religion to push a political agenda.
Edited on Fri Mar-18-05 11:58 AM by Stirk
Please- show me where Jackson asserted that a good Christian must vote Democratic.

While your at it, I'd like some description of how Jackson fits into a larger movement that marries religion with the Democratic Party.
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Logansquare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 12:07 PM
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9. Nice username, Herr Boot
Arbeit macht frei
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 12:17 PM
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10. und auf wieder sehen
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 02:30 PM
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14. gee... he's gone already...
BIG surprise there! :crazy:
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BigMcLargehuge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 11:24 AM
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2. excellent article, thanks
:)
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 11:38 AM
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4. SCARY!!!
But too many ignorant people believe it.


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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 11:51 AM
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6. yup
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formerrepuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 12:00 PM
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8. Moyers left out another key group being "wooed"- black churchgoers...
...Bill forgot to mention the GOP making appeals to black churchgoers- using the "Family Values TM" bait.

...From USNews and World Report...

"Bush made bigger gains (among blacks in 2004, up from 2000): from 9 to 16 percent in Ohio and from 7 to 13 percent in Florida. With most African-Americans identifying as churchgoers, some pastors say a new emphasis on "family values," especially opposition to same-sex marriage, is responsible for the shift."

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/050321/21blacks.htm
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moof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 12:18 PM
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11. NO, this is what you were told by the media !!!
Edited on Fri Mar-18-05 12:22 PM by moof
That does not make it true.

This and the religion thing are only of mild interest.
The main topic and problem is there are no longer elections being held in America.
Discussions that seem to say that any group is a voting block help to support the myth that elections and voting still exist.
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formerrepuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 12:53 PM
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13. The subsciption "welcome" packet from USNews included...
a bonus subscription offer to Human Events, and book offers from such authors as Coulter, OReilly, Medved, etc. It just figures...
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 12:38 PM
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12. kick
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 02:39 PM
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15. reached out... allies... former antagonists, conservative Catholics
you mean heathens. they call the catholics heathens. they still call the catholics heathens.

any catholics out there offended by the southerrn baptist calling you heathens

they call you heathens in case you dont know

this is who the baptists reached out to, to help support bush,......heathens

if i were a catholic, i would be offended
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