IRONY ALERT!!!!! Judge who ordered Shiavo feeding tube removed

George Greer is a REGISTERED REPUBLICAN!

:evilgrin:

The irony DRIPS in this case.

Neo-cons have hijacked the GOP, with serious help from hard-right fundies.

Plenty of regular Republicans are simply along for the ride, or enjoy hanging with the power brokers, or hope to retake control of their party.




The regular Republicans are not my enemy. I'm focused on ousting the neo-cons and their fundie friends.

When we do that, we'll need to find a way to live with regular Republicans.

Don't fool yourself. All Republicans are the enemy because they are all at the beck and call of the neo-cons on nearly everything.

I could not agree more.

Real Republicans hate what has happened to the party. They are working to take back the party now.

http://www.mypartytoo.com

she is a good lady.

Several of my family members are lifelong Republicans and all but one detest GWB and his syndicate.

The loudmouths are just in the spotlight more. My grandparents and mother are republicans but are disgusted with Bush and voted Kerry. These neocons are just ugh.

Like, who?

Right now they've got Delay controlling party purse strings, which is why they all seem to be in lockstep. If anybody shows any backbone during one of these appalling ripoffs of the US citizenry, they'll lose party support come reelection. Quite a few of them may be disgusted, but still want to outlast the Roach.

We'd better hope the halfassed justice system in Texas takes full care of that vile man and throws him into prison. Otherwise, the only way we're gonna get rid of him is in a casket.

The fact that he's moved a lot of Democrats into his district due to his gerrymandering in Texas may be irrelevant due to the corrupt voting machines.

I target those who hold and perpetuate neo-con, extreme fundie, and/or neo-fascist ideologies. These ideas are evil no matter who holds them.




I don't target those deceived by neo-cons.

They may be dumb, but they're not evil. I can't write them off just because they fell for Shrub's con-job. I've been conned before too.




I don't target those who are riding the coattails of the recent winners.

They may be slimy kiss-ups, but they're not evil. I've needed the help of a successful person before too.




I don't target those who are fighting the neo-cons and fundies from within their own party.

They may be losers, but they're not evil. And I can't write them off just because they haven't won their stuggle. We Dems haven't won our stuggle yet, either, and I'm not writing us off.

I stand by my original statement.

I perfectly willing to partner my "carrot" approach as a complement to your "stick" approach to Republicans.






Maybe we'll both be more effective as a result.

That wasn't nice. Why are republicans fighting the fundies and neo-cons losers in your opinion?

Don't get me wrong. By "losers", I meant "those who did not win". It's a technical usage of the word.

Specifically in terms of my last post, this means those Republicans who tried but failed to win the recent internal fights to retake their political party.

This kind of loser is a very temporary condition. Good losers learn and persevere and eventually win. I did not say (nor did I intend to imply) that regular Republicans were "permanent" losers.

I too have been on the losing side of certain struggles. It's ok. I survived to win a few and lose a few more. Being a loser is a regular and temporary condition associated with any serious struggle. It's part of life.



The main point is: I hope the real Republicans eventually prevail. And I'll see what I can do to help that happen.

Many people, myself included, do not see our fellow Americans who are in a different political party as the enemy.

Some republicans are jerks-- just as some democrats.

You know what? I'm getting damn sick of the leadership in BOTH parties. Screw em all.

if you are willing to demonize or as you said "hate" a whole group.

IMO, to be Republican is to be evil.

Do you have a specific reason? What do you use to base your opinion on?

What about republicans that voted for Kerry or supposrt democrats? What is evil?

has shown themselves to be idiotic, but there are good repubs out there.

There's not a single "good" Republican out there, else the BFEE and the radical clerics would not hold sway on the party.

To be a Repub;ican is to agree with the BFEE and the radical clerics. That is the only conclusion I can come to, ergo, to be a Republican is to be truly evil.

kicked out of his church because of his work in this case.

He deserves a lot of credit.

From Cruzan v. Director (a landmark right to die case from 1990):

"The various opinions in this case portray quite clearly the difficult, indeed agonizing, questions that are presented by the constantly increasing power of science to keep the human body alive for longer than any reasonable person would want to inhabit it. The States have begun to grapple with these problems through legislation. .... While I agree with the Court's analysis today, and therefore join in its opinion, I would have preferred that we announce, clearly and promptly, that the federal courts have no business in this field..."


onenote

Good find!

I may disagree, but conservative does not necessarily equal Bush lover. Believe me. I have two conservative relatives who voted for Kerry.

I mean, conservatives generally want a small federal government. How would a true conservative feel about a government that is so involved in people's lives that it can prolong or prevent someone's life support from being turned off, even if it contrary to the wishes of the patient and/or family?

to believe Terri's tube shouldn't have been pulled.

It's not a partisan issue unless you want it to be.

I feel that right to life decisions should be made on a case to case basis, this is one of those times where I think that there should have been more counseling for both sides of the family and there should be more help from the medical team, when my mother was terminal, it was very hard for anyone to tell us that she was terminal, everything was focused on jargon, blood gases up today, it was very hard to know what was going on, finally the doctors just "disappeared" It was the nurses who help us prepare, the doctors never told us anything at all at the end.

It is the blind loyalists on both sides that are making this a political issue. That is the reason the pukes are doing it, IMO.

Personally, I believe the wingnuts are using this to cloak their fascist tendencies. They can use it to deny their ideology in future trials.

Does anyone really believe Frist or DeLay really care? They like to throw around insults to "welfare queens" who are not productive members of society(in their opinion)but will use this case to secure their political futures with the sheeple. Go figure!

My heart goes out to the family of Teri. I hope they find peace in knowing they did all they could.

The judge in CA that made the ruling this week regarding gay marriage also a republican.

Yet the repukes are still trying to blame the Dems for her tube being removed. They have no shame. They will lie, twist the truth, subvert the law to get their way. They disgust me to no end. I truly do hate those people.

I posted before about other ironies: Delay's hypocrisy about protecting life, and the hypocrisy of Schiavo being kept alive by forced feeding against her will, when her eating disorder of bulimia is why she is now brain dead. Because the post got minimal response and I'm curious about the questions I posed, I'm re-posting it here:


I can't stand the unbelievable hypocricy of Delay et al. But let's hope that he will have to eat his words. If he truly stands by the above recent quote, then he should be continually prodded on:

1.) His stance on the death penalty
2.) His support of the current War with needless deaths of innocents
3.) His support of guns and the NRA, which results in needless death
4.) His lack of support for traumatic brain injuries (DU post today)

One of the major ironies in this case is the fact that Schiavo is brain dead because of bulimia with consequent electrolyte imbalances..this was a result of her own actions, and now, they are trying to keep her alive with artificial feeding! Some say that she will be starved to death...but she will actually die by the same cause of death that landed her in her current state... an electrolyte imbalance. Why isn't her responsibility for this stressed? She is dead as a human and has been for years. I can completely sympathize with parents in denial, and wanting to hold on to false beliefs. But I view her parent's decision as cruel and completely selfish. Would I want any loved one of mine to be artificially maintained by forced feeding against their will? I wouldn't wnat my beloved dog to be treated so inhumanely!

to approve Dubya's judicial selections....

Hmmmm.....

:tinfoilhat:

He's the one Jeb Bush had assigned to this case.

I also read someone on another board I go on say he was Christian too. :shrug: