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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 04:49 PM
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My thoughts on the whole Schiavo thing ....
God bless her soul when and if she ever passes on. Okay so the feeding tube has been removed .... so now what? Just like all the fish in the tank said after they escaped into the ocean at the end of 'Finding Nemo'. They were still stuck in their little baggies floating there .... in the ocean for who knows how long?

So now what? .... will the MSM be forever outside the hospital and our Nations attention focused on "well just how long does it take someone to starve to death?" Gee what a great thing to be educated on this weekend! And will congress once again attempt to 'intercede' in this poor womans plight? This government is playing right into our nations "Soap Opera Mentality" and keeping your attention away from other matters like a good magician with slight of hand.

Don't get me wrong, life is a blessing. But does anyone know HOW MANY CHILDREN DIED OF STARVATION on this planet today without a choice also? Is this republican committee that is so concerned all of a sudden with these issues of LIFE RAISING THIS QUESTION?

Or how about the WAR PROTESTS this weekend? Wlll we see any air-play on that? A whole lotta life saving issues for this government to focus on ya know, maybe if we focused our attention in the right direction we might even be able to save a few more of um ya know?
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 04:51 PM
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1. Its all too sad. No one but the families should be involved in this
and for the rest? I agree. I don't know. We have lost our way, picking the wrong battles. If all life is this precious, then why are there wars and hunger? They can't answer it because it doesn't matter to them.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 05:14 PM
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11. It is very sad.
Life isn't precious to them, their political agenda is what's precious. We must not forget that these men are the same ones who are willing to cut spending to help the people like Terri, just so that they can give more money to those who couldn't spend it all in 10 lifetimes.

As for the families being involved, that's where the trouble began,
this is a decision for her husband, not her parents. Yes for the sake of courtesy he should let them know what his plans are, but they in no way should have a say in the decision.

And regarding her parents "faith", this shows that they have no faith in God. I think they put more faith in Jeb, the Fundies, and the Republicans, then they did in God.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 08:50 PM
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17. I agree with you
I agree. If they really believed in God and those involved in everything would let her die in peace so she can return to God. They claim she is a live and can do things but she can't even wiggle. The sad thing is the republicans are using this to destract this for some reason. Some reason they are all jumping on this band wagon. I wonder what they're keeping us from?
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 08:43 PM
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16. And then just what does matter to them? $
Edited on Fri Mar-18-05 08:58 PM by doublethink
Obviously we won't be seeing any headlines soon like "Congress Intervenes On behalf Of All Starving Children Throughout The World!" With Tom Delay saying 'it's barbarism to let these children starve.....' no we won't hear that one! But we instead hear this story all day as if they are the only ones that speak for life, precious life. This seems to me to be the 'cheapest' way for these repubs to keep their twisted 'pro life' propagandist agenda alive, while demonizing anyone else in favor of maybe letting this poor woman meet her maker. And that's all it is. A diversion, playing politics with this tragic situation. These creeps are evil to the core. No, her life and any hungry kids life really doesn't matter to them. They are liars, wolves in sheeps clothing. :grr: Peace. :)

edited for spelling ... kinda fired up on this one. ;)
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n2mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 09:06 PM
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19. This should be a private issue
If I was in her situation, I would not want to live. Who is making a profit from this? Why should my family suffer because someone wants to make a profit? Personally, it is not keeping her alive with the hope she will recover, it is keeping her alive to make money.
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 04:52 PM
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2. Very good post. Thank you.
Welcome to DU, by the way.
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 04:59 PM
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6. Your welcome and thanks for the greeting ....
good to be here :)
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 04:54 PM
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3. If I remember correctly, last time the tube was removed
she was still alive after six days, when jeb passed his law..

I have to wonder about her parents who spearheaded the battle. One has to wonder - if one cares - what a baggage of guilt feelings they have had to want her to just lay there, in a vegetative state, and to imagine how she communicated with them
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 04:56 PM
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4. thoughtful post. welcome to DU doublethink!
:hi:
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 05:02 PM
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7. Thank you too ...
and keep the Peace :)
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 04:59 PM
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5. The Terri Schiavo case is about setting the nation up for the future
which is that no one will have "the right to die" with this administration. They could care less about Terri or her family. They are using this case to prevent the right to die, down the line.

I work with and know Terri's niece well. I support the families desire to bring Terri home. The family has a long history of working with brain-injured children/adults and I support their desire to attempt to help her in this regard, despite the fact that I believe that Terri's chances are extremely limited. But, this case is NOT about Terri.

It is about the RIGHT WING AGENDA! They must be STOPPED!
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 05:27 PM
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12. Your response ...
reminds me of Revelations 9:6 "And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them." .... anyway I agree the right wing should get their business out of this case and concentrate on the other concerns such as the ones posted in this thread. Prayers.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 05:05 PM
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8. Thank you for your thoughtful post. I agree.
Edited on Fri Mar-18-05 05:08 PM by deadparrot
This whole situation is extremely upsetting, and I hope we all take away an important lesson from this: MAKE YOUR WISHES KNOWN LEGALLY. Before something like this happens.

But there are millions upon millions of AMERICANS (not to mention the rest of the world) who cannot go to a hospital or a doctor if they are sick. Many of them are children. Millions of American are living in poverty and suffering its effects, being sucked into self-destructive lifestyles through no fault of their own.

This "sancitity of life" thing is bullshit. They "save" who they want to save and ignore the rest. I hope those politicians burn in hell for exploiting Terri and her family to this degree.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 08:55 PM
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18. Something I wonder
is what are they getting out of this? There must be something to this story we are missing. Like others have stated there are so many of our fellow citizen's without health care that could die from something because they couldn't get help from their doctor's. Why this woman? What's so special? We know how these people work so that's why I'm wondering.
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 09:58 PM
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20. Well for one thing like your earlier post says ...
What are they keeping from us while our attention is riveted on this story? Someone else said in this thread that this womans feeding tube was removed another time for 6 days before JEB BUSH intervened. So if Jeb let Bro George know the particulars, then maybe the administration see's it as a full WEEK of news coverage on this to DISTRACT US FROM OTHER THINGS? Is it just coincidence this is taking place in FLORIDA? You may be on to something here Freedom Angel ..... WHY THIS WOMAN? Maybe because they can manipulate things in Florida better than anywhere else in the country? :think:
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ExpresS Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 05:08 PM
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9. My take on Schiavo
Personally, I don't think this story should be on television, nor should anyone in America even know that it's happening except the Schiavo family. If Michael is the legal guardian and it is determined that his wife has little or no possibility of recovery, then he should make final say in whether Terri is kept alive. There should be no judges and certainly no federal involvement.

However, I live in America where everything is everybodies business.
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 05:12 PM
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10. I agree Express S
And your newer than I am on this sight! Gee I'm begining to feel like a veteran here. Welcome to DU. :)
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ExpresS Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 07:16 PM
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14. Thanks!
Thank you doublethink
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GodHelpUsAll2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 07:26 PM
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15. Not necessarily
Edited on Fri Mar-18-05 07:28 PM by GodHelpUsAll2
it could be as little as 3-4 or as many as 10-14. There is no "set" time limit.
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