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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 11:57 PM
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Idiot Son WILL have to explain his flip flop on Schiavo and...........
and it ain't gonna be purdy.

The crappy media is behind the curve but they'll catch up soon and start talking about how Idiot Son signed a law giving HOSPITALS the right to "kill" patients like Terri Schavo even when their FAMILIES OBJECTED if the family is TOO POOR TO PAY.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:00 AM
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1. I don't think so.
He won't have to explain anything because noone is going to fucking ask him.
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liberaltrucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:08 AM
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2. Unfortunately
I think you're right. The MSM is a shill for the pugs.
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:08 AM
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3. Help me media blast the info on that bill, here it is:
George W. Bush, while governor of Texas, signed a law allowing hospitals to terminate life-support for incapacitated patients, even against the wishes of the family. Especially if the patient cannot pay.

Here's the Houston Chronicle's story referencing the state law signed by Bush:

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/metropolitan/3073295

Hospitals can end life support
Decision hinges on patient's ability to pay, prognosis

and another recent Chronicle story regarding the termination of life support of an infant against the mother's wishes:

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/front/3087387

Baby dies after hospital removes breathing tube (Houston)
Case is the first in which a judge allowed a hospital to discontinue care

(This weekend Tom DeLay gave a press conference stating that (1) patients in this condition deserve due process and (2) doctors can be wrong about a prognosis ). Where was Tom DeLay? This story was in the news for several weeks - in his own district.
____________________________

And here's a copy of the state statute:

Texas Health & Safety Code - Chapter 166

  § 166.046.  PROCEDURE IF NOT EFFECTUATING A DIRECTIVE OR
TREATMENT DECISION.  (a)  If an attending physician refuses to
honor a patient's advance directive or a health care or treatment
decision made by or on behalf of a patient, the physician's refusal
shall be reviewed by an ethics<0> or medical committee.  The attending
physician may not be a member of that committee.  The patient shall
be given life<0>-sustaining treatment during the review.
        (b)  The patient or the person responsible for the health
care decisions of the individual who has made the decision
regarding the directive or treatment decision:
                (1)  may be given a written description of the ethics<0> or
medical committee review process and any other policies and
procedures related to this section adopted by the health care
facility;
                (2)  shall be informed of the committee review process
not less than 48 hours before the meeting called to discuss the
patient's directive, unless the time period is waived by mutual
agreement;
                (3)  at the time of being so informed, shall be
provided:                  
                        (A)  a copy of the appropriate statement set forth
in Section 166.052;  and
                        (B)  a copy of the registry list of health care
providers and referral groups that have volunteered their readiness
to consider accepting transfer or to assist in locating a provider
willing to accept transfer that is posted on the website maintained
by the Texas Health Care Information Council under Section 166.053;  
and
                (4)  is entitled to:                                                          
                        (A)  attend the meeting;  and                                                
                        (B)  receive a written explanation of the decision
reached during the review process.
        (c)  The written explanation required by Subsection
(b)(2)(B) must be included in the patient's medical record.
        (d)  If the attending physician, the patient, or the person
responsible for the health care decisions of the individual does
not agree with the decision reached during the review process under
Subsection (b), the physician shall make a reasonable effort to
transfer the patient to a physician who is willing to comply with
the directive.  If the patient is a patient in a health care
facility, the facility's personnel shall assist the physician in
arranging the patient's transfer to:
                (1)  another physician;                                                      
                (2)  an alternative care setting within that facility;  
or                  
                (3)  another facility.                                                        
        (e)  If the patient or the person responsible for the health
care decisions of the patient is requesting life<0>-sustaining
treatment that the attending physician has decided and the review
process has affirmed is inappropriate treatment, the patient shall
be given available life<0>-sustaining treatment pending transfer
under Subsection (d).  The patient is responsible for any costs
incurred in transferring the patient to another facility.  The
physician and the health care facility are not obligated to provide
life<0>-sustaining treatment after the 10th day after the written
decision required under Subsection (b) is provided to the patient
or the person responsible for the health care decisions of the
patient unless ordered to do so under Subsection (g).
        (e-1)  If during a previous admission to a facility a
patient's attending physician and the review process under
Subsection (b) have determined that life<0>-sustaining treatment is
inappropriate, and the patient is readmitted to the same facility
within six months from the date of the decision reached during the
review process conducted upon the previous admission, Subsections
(b) through (e) need not be followed if the patient's attending
physician and a consulting physician who is a member of the ethics<0>
or medical committee of the facility document on the patient's
readmission that the patient's condition either has not improved or
has deteriorated since the review process was conducted.
        (f)  Life<0>-sustaining treatment under this section may not be
entered in the patient's medical record as medically unnecessary
treatment until the time period provided under Subsection (e) has
expired.
        (g)  At the request of the patient or the person responsible
for the health care decisions of the patient, the appropriate
district or county court shall extend the time period provided
under Subsection (e) only if the court finds, by a preponderance of
the evidence, that there is a reasonable expectation that a
physician or health care facility that will honor the patient's
directive will be found if the time extension is granted.
        (h)  This section may not be construed to impose an
obligation on a facility or a home and community support services
agency licensed under Chapter 142 or similar organization that is
beyond the scope of the services or resources of the facility or
agency.  This section does not apply to hospice services provided by
a home and community support services agency licensed under Chapter
142.

Added by Acts 1999, 76th Leg., ch. 450, § 1.03, eff. Sept. 1,
1999.  Amended by Acts 2003, 78th Leg., ch. 1228, § 3, 4, eff.
June 20, 2003
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 01:34 AM
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12. I've plasted this on
a Christian board I go on and a lot of them just claimed the cases were differnet etc. A lot of them didn't seem to care. Maybe two/three people were siding with me.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:08 AM
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4. I think it is our moral duty...
...to email bomb all news media with the very point you are making.

Bush's hypocricy must not be hidden.

The fact that he signed such legislation should be front and center.

Maybe we can make that happen.

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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:09 AM
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5. I sent this to Olbermann hours ago
He'll be the only one who would point this out.
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thethinker Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:22 AM
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6. We have a case like this in Houston right now
Every night on TV in Houston they are discussing a case where the hospital wants to disconnect life support for a man and his wife wants him kept alive.

The courts have ruled she can keep him alive if she can find another hospital to take him. No hospital in Houston will take him. It is about money. That is all the hospitals care about. Here if you can't pay, you die. Simple as that.

I hope this issue backfires on the republicans. The REAL issue is how to stay alive if you don't have money and need medical care. I would hope most Americans can see through this and start to ask if this happened to them, how they could afford to pay for it.

I just hope the MSM will give some air time to the law that Bush signed in Texas. In Texas, you pay or you die. So the rich can live as long as they want. The poor can not. This is the real issue.


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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:28 AM
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8. guess bush wasn't too hurried flying out from his pig farm for that family
to 'rescue' them, huh?

what a three faced porcinic piece of caca.
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TOhioLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:26 AM
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7. Explain what?
and to whom? I've been trying on another board, to no effect. The sheeple don't care.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 01:35 AM
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14. They don't
They just make an excuse for the cases. Never mind pointing out the hypocriacy and that Bush is behind the cases.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:33 AM
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9. since when has that asshole ever been held accountable for ANYTHING?
Please.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 01:32 AM
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10. no he won't . . . the media will just ignore it . . . n/t
.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 01:33 AM
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11. "he just mispoke". Judy Woodruff
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 01:35 AM
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13. Who's gonna make him?
Congress? (for to laugh)
SCOTUS? (for to laugh)
the people? (for to laugh)

Exactly who in America is going to make the little tyrant explain?
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