The rule of law is dead. 3/21/05 The Constitution is dead.

States rights are kaput.

The Constitution just gave one last dying gasp tonight.

Who witnessed its death?

Any TRUE conservative should be shitting bricks right now over this.

Any person who values the United States Constitution should be clawing their face off over this.

Anyone who truly admires the principles this country was founded on should be in mourning. They are gone.

I fall into those last two categories. I think the Constitution kicks major ass. Or it used to.

So much for that. I just never thought I'd see this in my lifetime. It was a good experiment while it lasted.

this happen tonight if they wished they had done something to provent this?

The people who cheer this latest fiasco aren't conservatives, they're neo-cons.
True conservatives (yes they exist) ARE going apeshite.
Neo-cons don't give a flying FUCK about the constitution.

I was saying TRUE conservatives should be shitting bricks over this (UPSET, in other words).

Sorry if that wasn't clearer.

any flavor of conservative.

conservatives are really ALARMED by this.

That's when the worm turns, when you start getting repukes going "Hey, wait a second, hold on there......this is going too far...."

there isnt a tv in the room where this pc is so I havent really seen the breakdown of support/opposition.

When the Rs start stepping back and realizing something's wrong...

what makes people open their eyes to this administration? I'm just so sad. :cry:

parties over this one last straw....5 months too late

Old skool conservatives actually will side with liberals and Democrats on several key issues- federal bans on abortion, for instance- but neo-cons won't.
Neo-cons = traitors
Conservatives will generally repect the constitution and not shit on it.

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Reason is apparently for losers.

He's dismayed and shocked. He didn't think it would really happen.

we saw a murder attempt on it. The courts can still end this madness.

I take hope in that. Maybe my Inner Drama Queen made a showing tonight. I blame CSPAN.

(I hope the federal court throws this shitty political pandering out.)

Hang in there Bouncy Ball. Let's see what happens tomorrow in the judicial branch. I can't imagine that they much like their power being usurped by these nuts! They just may shoot this whole thing down lickety split, and it may be over... Let's see.

I just don't like seeing the Constitution shat on so much.

Let's hope the judiciary branch gives Congress a bit of a bitch slappin' tomorrow.

but if they give them a good "bitch slappin'", as you so aptly put it, I would be squealing with glee to see that!! I'm kinda thinking that they will slap them 'upside the head' and back, after the stunt they pulled tonight! I'm REALLY hoping they will slap them back into their place with a resounding THUMP!!!

True America left...

http://www.suitedisney.com/id125.htm

http://www.suitedisney.com/id156.htm

Step right up and get your case adjudicated by Congressional law. If you're a big enough contributor or your case represents some juicy red meat for the religiously insane, the Congressional Adjudication Committee will even word your specialized law to not allow federal judges to take anything from the original court documents into account!

when I read your post, I wanted to hang my head and cry. Or kick a wall. You are exactly right.

And I wish I was reading fiction right now. But apparently I'm not.

Someone wake me up.

I'm spinning, just reeling -- Obama??? Durbin?? Well, if there is no difference between them and us, where do I go? The US Supreme Court TURNED DOWN an emergency appeal on this case. The US district court ruled against a habeas action -- the appellate hasn't ruled yet, but must look to the state record. IT WENT TO THE FEDERAL COURT ALREADY!!!!! WTF??? Forgive the yelling, but I'm blowing a cork, here.

December 12, 00...any semblance of a rule of law has been replaced by two sets of laws...those for you and me...and those for Repukes and their rule of law is anything goes and we don't care and you can't stop us.

LOL

I know, I know. And I've felt that way, too (about December 2000).

This was just another example and I watched it being played out.

It's pretty sickening.

place...I'll be leaving one

I must really need to go to bed. I read your post and tears sprang into my eyes. Because it's true.

Ok on that note, good night. Let's just hope the federal courts aren't insane, too. I don't have much hope, though.

They are having a fit over this. They actually called me to see if I knew what was going on. They want DeLay's head on a platter. I'm trying not to be smug but it's killing me. I've not spoken to this person since before the elections when we had a huge disagreement over Tom DeLay.

Repukes upset with His Highness DELAY HIMSELF????
WOW. What happened 2nit MIGHT have worked in our favor after all.

This is one brainwashed faux news watching person who I'd already primed. I do know they are very upset with DeLay and the rest of the Repugs who voted for this. They were not shy about pointing out how some Dem's voted for it also. Their main beef was that they think I may be on to something with Delay (duh!).

If republicans in Texas are upset over this then something isn't right. What if this bill goes through??

state rights disappear and basically our Constitution which has been hanging on by a thread, be in worse shape than Terri Schiavo....

I am clawing my face over this....I think the Constitution is the greatest document on this earth and its being destroyed by right wing nuts who call themselves "Republicans" (they aren't - my father and grandparents who are life long Republicans always talked about fiscal conservatism, keeping gov't small, keeping gov't out of our private lives and letting the states make decisions).

No, these people think the Bible, their version, should replace the Constitution....

So much for "Democracy"...it was a good experiment while it lasted...our founding fathers couldn't have imagined this, or atleast they did and thought they had put all the protections in place....they couldn't imagine corporate power getting so strong and the use of media propaganda and Television and its power.

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on cspan after the vote and wow, the republicans were not happy with this at all. This could be the issue that actually saves us, it shows them for what they are and they are not conservatives, they are radicals. That's the mirror image.

fall into water. The cons up here are screaming bloody murder. Our idiots in the congress weren't there to vote. They know better.

at FR? Just me wondering. I don't have the guts to go over there.

...and you pointedly spelled out why the Schiavo case is so important.

You are right...it feels like the Constitution is dead.

Truly, the neocons could care less about it. They detest anyone reining in their dictatorial style.

Like you, I witnessed the death. I'm mourning, believe me.

I know many are sick of the multiple threads about the Schiavo issue. However, this issue is a microcosm of everything that is so totally haywire about this country.

The centerpiece of this issue--is the agenda of the neocons, who use religion to rip a divisive, bitter chasm in this country. They are the most evil, vile creatures ever to exist on the face of this planet. Historically, they will be remembered as vile, shameless reptiles who used religion to cull votes and create hatred and bitterness in this nation. They are consciousless, dangerous lizards.

This issue magnifies their evil and their limitless capacity for using religion as a prop.

It's the reason why this country has lost its Constitution and why we're no longer a democracy. They've been able to convince truly religious and spiritual people that they are moral and the Democrats are evil, pagan pieces of scum. They do it with lies, manipulations, public-relations ploys and grandstanding.

These people are pure evil and they're sinking this country into a deep pit.

Wait until the blow back starts. There is 3-1 opposition in the public for government meddling in this and similar cases. This will embolden them to bring her to DC. That will be a 'meltdown moment.' After that, people will want to come here just to :puke: on their member of congress (if they voted yes on this).

I'm so disappointed and so disgusted. I never thought this would happen. Then again I'm not surprised either because of the people in power. These people are so disgusting and should be ashamed. What happens now??

This country is going down the tubes so fast. I don't know what to do.

If i had the FINANCIAL MEANS, id move IMMEDIATLY to Vancouver.

into the neocon bubble by signing Terri's law.

There are a lot of people who are upset about this for every kind of reason.

The reason why?

There are a lot of people who are already getting into positions like this. THere are many rational people who are both republican and democrat who see this as being a very personal issue with the aging of the baby boomer generation being most direction connected to this.

It is depressing. How many more cases will the U.S. Congress agree to hear? At what point of the appeals process can one take the matter to Congress (just in case I get a speeding ticket)? Oh wait the Congress is supposed to be the legislative branch. Still depressed but feeling a bit better.