DEAN MUST RESPOND

Dean MUST respond on 2nits events. Put out a release.

"Persistent Vegetative State" is.....

On edit: As well as a "Cerebral Cortex" and its function, since it seems most of the US and Congress have none....

My husband and I were discussing this.

Where is Dean???

He's a doctor for God's sake. He could speak with authority on this issue, as a medical professional.

He's also very vocal about these types of Republican power plays. I'm sure he'd have plenty of important and poignant things to say about these sickening events.

The Republicans have usurped the Constitution and that talking points memo is proof that this compassionless circus is purely for political purposes.

Dean could make those points. I imagine he would LOVE to make those points, and many more.

Where in the heck is he????

He's pretty much there to raise money and organize bureaucratic stuff.

And the party vote was split.

...Dean won't say anything about it, because he's not there to set policy.

Is this gonna be like the thing you were putting us through the other night? I don't wanna bring it up again, I just wanna know from a standpoint of prioritizing my time.

We do so again. He can offer a medical opinion as well. McAuliffe always had opinions on various issues. I don't think Terry was the greatest but he was sure more visable than Dean lately.

He's not Kerry, who took vacations when he should be out campaigning.

Dean said that he'll eventually do national interviews, but he's got his hands full rebuilding the Dem infrastructure.

If we wait on the grassroots, there will be nothing to save. JMHO. And you really need to stop the Kerry bashing. He is one of the only people fighting FOR us. But whatever. Believe what you want.

I think that right now both are working their asses off. I actually think Kerry worked his ass off during the campaign as well.

In addition, I will not gripe that Dean isn't exactly where I want him to be.

Actually, I don't like that kind of criticism of either one. It's too easy in my opinion if Dean is in one place, to say "Why is he not here, or there, or over there." He is where he is, doing what he's doing. He's where he thinks he needs to be at this very moment, and is not being played like a pushmepullyou.

That annoyed me about the criticism about Kerry during the campaign as well. If he was talking about Iraq, people wanted him on the economy. If he was on the economy, he was supposed to be talking health care. If he was talking health care, he was supposed to be talking about the environment. If he was talking about the environment, he was supposed to be talking about Iraq.

I think this reveals much about the party. There are so many forces that consider their issue to be the most important. We are not unified, we are scattered. That is part of the problem.

I support both Kerry and Dean and any Democrat who has a positive action to support. We are not served by replaying the primaries endlessly. Look at the picture in my sig. They're more together than their supporters. Kerry supports Dean. Both are working to build the grassroots. I'd like to see both be cut a break.

But that's probably just me.

picking his nose. Disgusting!

Or with trying to unify the party.

The baby Dean cries every time someone does that, you know.

Unless he has an invisible extra finger, seen only by you, he most definately is not picking his nose, but clearly resting his head on his hand.

Who in this case is Steny Hoyer.

http://democraticwhip.house.gov

Part of what I was afraid of in a Dean election to chair was that people would expect all this stuff of him (because they tend to make him all these things that he's not - he's a moderate and that's why I joined his campaign), get disappointed, and start saying he sold out or something, and he wouldn't be able to raise as much money as we might expect. I like the guy and think he's pretty good for the job, it's what people have done with him that I don't like. All the co-opting.

is why I didn't support him. He was too conservative for me. That is why I chose Kerry, who I felt was more liberal. You are the first Dean supporter I have ever seen admit to Dean being a moderate! I also agree that people will expect too much of Dean. I just don't necessarily think his medical opinion would be policy. And since Pelosi has issued a statement, he could back her up. That would be permitted.I campaigned for Dean as Chair also. I thought he would be the best guy for the job. I thought he would unite the left and the moderates, but so far, I don't know. We shall see. Ironic, isn't it, Kerry was a liberal that was perceived as a moderate, and Dean was a moderate that was perceived as a liberal!

You have entered into threads here in which it was discussed. He has never pretended to be anything else. Anyone who followed his campaign from the beginning knew exactly what he was about. We did that.

He said something to this effect in his book....I am paraphrasing. He knows he can know more please the radical left than he can the radical right. He is right, that is true.

I don't agree with him on everything, but we supported him because he took stands on what he believed.

know. I was only saying I didn't think certain things fell into the policy catagory. Most of the people I met in the Dean Campaign got furious with me if I said he was a moderate. I am really very surprised when I encounter people who know that. That is all I meant! :)

It was the press and the DLC starting the fringe thing. None of us ever thought that.

From a Nov. 2003 question, Dean comments on Shiavo case

Dean 'Appalled' That Florida Lawmakers Saved Schiavo
http://www.cnsnews.com/Politics/Archive/200311/POL20031107a.html>http://www.cnsnews.com/Politics/Archive/20...L20031107a.html

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Capitol Hill (CNSNews.com) - Democratic presidential candidate Howard Dean, who begins his campaign website greeting with the phrase, "As a medical doctor...," claims Florida Republicans should be "embarrassed" for intervening to save the life of Terri Schindler Schiavo last month. Earlier in the year, Dean publicly expressed his support for physician-assisted suicide.

Dean accused Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and Republican state lawmakers of interfering in a "private matter" when they passed "Terri's Law," which allowed Bush to have the 39-year-old disabled woman's feeding tube reconnected after it was removed under court order at her husband's request. The former Vermont governor said he was "appalled" by Bush's intervention.

Terri suffered a brain injury in 1990 under questionable circumstances that left her severely disabled. Her husband, Michael Schiavo, his brother and another brother's wife claim Terri verbally expressed her desire not to be kept alive "artificially" should she ever require life support. Terri's parents and siblings, along with her former co-workers, friends, priests and fellow church members dispute that claim.

"I'm tired of people in the legislature thinking that they have an M.D. when what they really have is a B.S.," the Miami Herald quoted Dean as telling about 200 business and community leaders at the Capital Tiger Bay Club in Tallahassee Tuesday.
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Somehow, I don't think Howard Dean's views on this issue have changed much.

Oh, but Pharisee Lieberman supports the Repukes
Pamela Hennessy - spokeswoman for Terri's parents, Robert and Mary Schindler - called Dean's comments "a monumental display of bad taste in every way imaginable.

"Obviously, he doesn't know every aspect of the case," Hennessy said, "and I think he's using it as platform just to take a swing, verbally, at Gov. Bush."

Hennessy said she is not surprised, however, at Dean's lack of compassion for Terri.

"Mr. Dean is on record as being in favor of physician-assisted suicide," Hennessy explained.

During an Aug. 20 appearance on Oregon Public Radio, interviewer Colin Fogarty asked Dean, "In general, where do you stand on physician-assisted suicide and Oregon's vote on that issue?" Dean said the question posed "a very difficult moral problem," which he believes should be decided by the states.

"I as a physician would not be comfortable administering lethal drugs," Dean explained, "but I think this a very private, personal decision, and I think individual physicians and patients have the right to make that private decision."

By contrast, Hennessy praised Sen. Joseph Lieberman (D-Conn.), who is competing with Dean for the Democratic nomination and who also commented on Terri's case.

"He was smart enough and man enough to see that not everything that happens in life is a question of politics," Hennessy said. "He recognized that, and he didn't turn it into a political fight."

Lieberman, who drew criticism during his 2000 vice presidential bid for waffling on pro-life issues, told the Associated Press in October that he supports Terri's Law.

"I feel very strongly that we ought to honor life, and we ought not to create a system where people are being deprived of nutrition or hydration in a way that ends their lives," Lieberman said.
Pharisee Lieberman honors live, except when it's Palestinian lives.

Wirh the recent overtures of Hillary Clinton and others in the party toward the "right-to-life" crowd--I highly doubt the Howard Dean is going to do anything to upset the "right-to-life" faction of the party.

It sucks--but you can see it on the roll call vote. The democrats who think they have to cater to the "right-to life" crowd--like Stupak here in Michigan--- voted with the republicans.

Dean called Republicans "Brain Dead" today. Sorry but that's the tackiest of tacky under the circumstances.

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I have never heard of this.

I do believe that's what that was supposed to be. Must be text message talk.

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