Using Stem Cell research Terry might be brought back to normal.

What a dilemma for these fundies. Stem Cells could save a life what to do what to do...

And integrating it with what's left of the lower brain?



Wow...I'm all for stem cell research, but that's some serious star trek shit.

(edited for subject-verb agreement)

:shrug:

Nice, someone caught the reference.

used the same punctuation. :hi:

Jay

Spock's brain: TOS (aptly titled "Spock's Brain."

Spock's consciousness: Star Trek III - The Search for Spock.

If you're going to reference the gospel of Trek, I must insist on accuracy. :)

A child could do it! A child could do it"

Jay

I'm sorry to report this, but Terri's intellect was transferred into a dog named "spot" for the time being....

Remember!LOL.

Could grow a fully functioning cerebrum?

I find that incredible.

Her brain has atrophied considerably from the initial damage. Stem cells would have little or nothing to work on.

Her best chance with advanced medical technology might be to die, have her head frozen, and have a new brain and body cloned in about four hundred years. I'm only being half-facetious here; she really does have very little hope, and if Congress ordered cryonic preservation for her, she'd have a better prospect for life than she does now.

She's currently the inert mascot for the cause celebre du jour of the 'Publican party. The Schindlers are crazy with pain, so my opinion of their behavior is much more tolerant than that of the moral vampires who stayed up after the Webitching Hour to pass some quickie laws and sign them with ink that was virtually made from Terri's blood.

Her husband is emerging as one of the strongest people this nation has seen in many a year. And to think he was just another mullet-wearing dude when he met Terri. This time, Time made the Man, and the Man has played the hand Time has dealt him with skill and dignity, at a table of rogues, cheaters, grifters and bench-jumpers.

They all deserve our prayers, at least from the folks who pray. We can not be certain who will ultimately be "right" in the eyes of the ultimate Chief Justice, but I fear that there will be a special measure of judgement for those who have used her in the pursuit of power.

Stem cells, advanced brain technology for stroke recovery, more public awareness of bulimia -- these are for the future, a future Terri Schiavo was unlucky enough to find out of reach.

--p!

I was trying to put an exclamation point to the hypocrisy of the right. If Stem cell Research had been allowed or been around fifteen years ago this all might be a moot point. It was nothing more than a jab at the right-wing. There will be more like this gal though and we need to get them on record opposing possible cures...

Sorry, I wasn't trying to belittle you earlier. I just find that people can be over-zealous about the practical potential of stem cells. You know, like, "stem cells will bring my grandfather back from the grave, pay off my mortgage, and cook me dinner."

But yeah, its conceivable that this could have been fixed, or at least halted, if caught early on. Someday medical science will get us there (unless its replaced by Medical Jesus).

they hadn't overcome some pretty immense hurdles.

They still have some pretty big hurdles ahead of them.

Non-embryonic stem cells have shown more short term promise than embryonic ones.

And even if her brain could have been "regrown", it's unlikely that Terri S. would have remained the same person. Lose that much brain tissue and memories, knowledge, personality traits, and trained cognitive abilities vanish.

Cripes. A huge portion of her brain is wiped out, filled with fluid. Even if you could grow a new brain for her, it wouldn't be her brain. It wouldn't be Terry. This isn't a Liver we're talking about.

If your computer croaks, and you buy a new one, but don't have a backup of data/programs from the old one, you are SOL. Who has the "backup" of Terry?

There isn't one. It's over. She's gone.

politicization (my word) of Terry. He made a comment about what did Michael do withthe $750,000 judgement money from 15 years back? He insinuated that Michael spent it on sex, drugs, and rock-n-roll in only slightly more polite words than that. He also said that Michael spent none of it on rehab and if he would have Terry would not be in her present condition (implying that she would be fine).

My question to this moran is; Let's assume $750,000 worth of rehab would have cured her 100% for sake of argument. So does this moran support bush*s push to limit awards to $250,000? If so, I sure hope he stays healthy right up to his end, and that he stops voting against his own self-interest sometime soon.

I've been puzzling that over as I've been following this issue on several other boards in addition to DU. I'm finding that those who are most vehemently for keeping Terri hooked up to the tube are those who have no use for the husband. It's almost like they are using her to cudgel him. (Which, given that she is being used every-which-way by groups that have their own agendas, comes as no surprise.) To be clear -- I am not including DU in my observation.

While he is a major figure here, no doubt, his private life is irrelevant. As the husband, he has the proxy to make the decisions about his wife. The marriage bond trumps parental authority, especially among adults. I believe even the Bible recognized that.

It should end there, and SHOULD have ended there a long time ago.

Some of the most vehement here are women who's husbands'have left 'em.

on him though.

My question is bush*co et al were pushing a Constitutional Amendment to protect the "sanctity of marriage", except in this case the sanctity of the marriage of Michael and Terry seems to be getting in their way, so Hasta La Vista to that!

Even if we were able to grow a new cerebral cortex the wiring would have nothing to do with her. Her memories and experiences are gone forever. Growing a new brain would be the same as giving her a brain transplant. If it were possible it would just mean a different person was in her body.

Let's say there were two brains, identical in every respect except self-identity. In other words, let us say there are two brains with all the same properties except the ones that have to be different in virtue of there being two of them. So, the brains have the SAME DNA. There is some small amount of variance even in the case of identical twins, but NOT in the case of the brains in the hypothetical.

And let us give both brains the exact same input. We could split any input into two streams so that they really are getting the SAME input.

So here are the two brains:

BRAIN 1 BRAIN 2

Now let's say that my mind's connection to its body is somehow essentially dependant on BRAIN 1. Perhaps my mind JUST IS BRAIN 1, but one doesn't need to necessarily say that. One only needs essential dependance. So it's fine if there are souls, and my soul happens to hook up with BRAIN 1.

Now say some guy comes along and smashes BRAIN 2.
Has anything happened to ME? Has my brain been smashed?
No.

Similarly, no matter how perfect a "regrown" brain we could get for Terry, nothing can change the fact that she is already dead. Indeed, as we see from the above example, even if we could somehow hook the replacement brain up to Terry's ACTUAL EXPERIENCES from when she was an infant up until some suitable time, the resulting person would NOT be Terry.

That is, of course, unless one wants to deny any link between particular brains and particular minds.

But we have fax machines now... if you know what I'm saying.