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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 10:29 AM
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"Thou Shalt Not Kill"....with a few exceptions...
the big commandment of the ten is the one about killing. yet it's the most abused.

it's o.k. to kill muslims, native americans, women's health clinic doctors, anyone we think attacked us on 9-11, and old men and women and mothers holding their babes in their arms in Iraq or Afghansistan.

there are exceptions to every commandment or admonishment from Christ.
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Dez Donating Member (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 10:34 AM
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1. Thou shalt not kill, except Texas!
I don't see how these right wingers live with their inconsistencies. They decide who shall live or die, playing God ever time they execute someone.
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SheepyMcSheepster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 10:35 AM
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2. oh but you are confused, you over looked the fine print
it's "Thou Shall Not Kill Unless those being killed are not christian or they are poor or something, you get the idea.......anyone you don't like."
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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 10:38 AM
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4. I think that selection came from my new Post-9/11 Bible.
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SheepyMcSheepster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 10:41 AM
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6. ahh yes, the Post-9/11 bible
it seems many of us did not get a copy?
i wonder why? could it possibly be....maybe...i don't know.....SATAN!
/church lady off
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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 11:01 AM
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8. It's not yet in print - I'm working on new passages every day.
The first were the Beatitudes and your post gave me inspiration to work on the Ten Commandments.

Thou shalt not steal - unless it is from your shareholders to prop up the company that is failing because of your incompetence (might be a good one).
Thou shalt not covet they neighbor's belongings - unless it's oil and you have manufactured a good excuse to go get it.

Once it's complete, I hope to make the talk show circuit.

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Squeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 10:35 AM
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3. Amalek
Old Aramaic word meaning, "Everybody I don't like."

But "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" somehow doesn't mean it's open season on Ann Coulter. Go figure.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 10:40 AM
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5. Actually, that isn't the 'big commandement'
Edited on Mon Mar-21-05 10:40 AM by Cuban_Liberal
The big one is "I am the Lord thy God who brought thee out of Egypt; thou shalt have no other gods before Me". Other than that, you're correct about exceptions.
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Hunter_1253 Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 10:54 AM
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7. The Ten Commandments...
are not our basis for law in this country, no matter what people would lead you to believe. The fundies who scream about how all laws are formed from these ten just don't realize that people have been following these basic concepts all throughout history, even in geographic locations where the 10 Commandments of the bible were never even known. Not committing murder, not stealing, obeying elders, etc have been a common sense approach towards living together with other people for many millennia and not just because one religious group wrote it down and decided to make it their individual mantra of behavior.

That being said, the Right Wing needs to pick a stance and stick with it. They call us the Flip-Floppers, yet they can't stick with one opinion throughout multiple topics. If marriage is such a sacred union that the constitution needs to be changed to protect it and define it as a union between husband and wife only, then the rights of Ms. Schiavo's husband need to be protected. He wants the tube removed and would know what she would want (if she were of sound mind) because of their sacred union. Her parents, the courts, and Congress need to remove their nose from the issue, or dare interfere with the sacred bond that is marriage between a man and a woman.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 11:37 AM
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10. "The Ten Commandments... are not our basis for law in this country...."
Never said they were.

:hi:
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:17 PM
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13. Actually, the two most important commandments are these
Edited on Mon Mar-21-05 12:18 PM by arnheim
Mark 12:28-34 "One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, 'Of all the commandments, which is the most important?'

'The most important one,' answered Jesus, 'is this: "Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength."

The second is this: "Love your neighbour as yourself." There is no commandment greater than these.'

'Well said, teacher,' the man replied. 'You are right in saying that God is one and there is no other but him. To love him with all your heart, with all your understanding and with all your strength, and to love your neighbour as yourself is more important than all burnt offerings and sacrifices.'

When Jesus saw that he had answered wisely, he said to him, 'You are not far from the kingdom of God.'

And from then on no one dared ask him any more questions."

As you know, the second one (love thy neighbor as thyself) isn't one of the ten commandments but a commandment outside of the original 10.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 11:35 AM
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9. Gee, the "Ten Commandments" has nuances?
and Gray areas?

I thought that Repukes were like the Binars - either absolute yes or absolute no.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 11:43 AM
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11. The commandment is "Thou Shalt not Murder"
Edited on Mon Mar-21-05 11:43 AM by bryant69
As most people know. Obviously soldiers defending their homelands or the state executing people are not committing Murder (the bible proscribes the death penalty to a number of crimes). I don't know how they get mentally around to a place where it's ok to kill in order to further their political goals on an individual basis, but I suspect they find a way to see themselves as judges.

A biblical analogy to President Bush's BS invasion of Iraq might be found in the story of David and Uriah and Bath-Sheba (2 Samual 11).

2 ¶ And it came to pass in an eveningtide, that David arose from off his bed, and walked upon the roof of the king’s house: and from the roof he saw a woman washing herself; and the woman was very beautiful to look upon.

3 And David sent and enquired after the woman. And one said, Is not this Bath-sheba, the daughter of Eliam, the wife of Uriah the Hittite? . . .

14 ¶ And it came to pass in the morning, that David wrote a letter to Joab, and sent it by the hand of Uriah.

15 And he wrote in the letter, saying, Set ye Uriah in the forefront of the hottest battle, and retire ye from him, that he may be smitten, and die.

16 And it came to pass, when Joab observed the city, that he assigned Uriah unto a place where he knew that valiant men were.

17 And the men of the city went out, and fought with Joab: and there fell some of the people of the servants of David; and Uriah the Hittite died also. . . .

26 And when the wife of Uriah heard that Uriah her husband was dead, she mourned for her husband.

27 And when the mourning was past, David sent and fetched her to his house, and she became his wife, and bare him a son. But the thing that David had done displeased the LORD.


Seems like pretty good parallels to Bush lusting after the oil of Iraq and being willing to see his soldiers die to get his hands on it.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 11:45 AM
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12. map of executions by state....notice the TEXAS bush* executions..


bush* went on a KILLING SPREE of executions when he was the governor of Texas....no compassion at all....with his now-attorney general gonzales spending ten minutes on each appeal, and bush* signing off after another 10 minutes....bush* killed women, children, mentally retarded....bush* also cut the funds for public defendeders to the point where the ONLY attorneys willing to take on that work were actually falling asleep during a death penalty trial....











here's all the info you need to REJECT executions in America....
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:23 PM
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14. Don't forget mothers holding babies in their arms in TEXAS
Edited on Mon Mar-21-05 12:24 PM by mtnester
I am still shocked that for all this hype over Terri Shaivo, that Baby Sun in Texas is not being FLUNG into the face of Tom Delay...seriously, he should be SMOTE with it, and everyone else who jumped on the Shaivo bandwagon.

ALL of these cases are agonizing, personal cases of tragedy that NONE of us should even hear about as they are private matters among the families of everyone involved. The press and Congress just SUCK for making this agonizing for EVERYONE involved.

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