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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 03:27 PM
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Even Judge Napolitano on Fox News
is declaring that the action of the congress last night was blatantly unconstitutional.

How much more is it going to take before America starts to realize that we have an out of control government being lead by religious loonies.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 03:29 PM
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1. This might be the start
I wish some of our Democratic representatives would have been out there today, condemning what happened and making headlines of his/her own, on our behalf.

But, they're off on junkets, or just somewhere else, being their spineless selves.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 03:40 PM
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3. Well with a little bit of luck
Maybe this is the issue that will cause people to start taking a serious look at what is happening to our government.

These religious fanatics talk about how they support the rule of law and all of that, however, they clearly proved last night that they only support the rule of law when it suits them. Otherwise there motto is, "Law, we don't need no stinking law".
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katsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 03:52 PM
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8. Condemning?
I thought the democrats who voted for this power grab made it happen!
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 08:11 PM
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18. If you haven't noticed, Republicans have the majority.
It doesn't matter what Dems vote for. But what does matter is that this would have never been brought up for a vote at all under a Democratic majority leader.
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katsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 01:42 AM
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24. I'm quite aware that there's a
puke majority and a flippant answer wasn't required.

It was my understanding they needed a two-thirds majority to pass this bill.

If the Dems all voted to kill this bill, it wouldn't have passed. Or at least that's what I thought.

I may be wrong... better wrong than flippant.



:P
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 10:44 AM
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26. Nah. Only a majority. Even filibusters only require 60 out of 100 Senators
Edited on Tue Mar-22-05 10:45 AM by w4rma
And the House of Representatives has no filibuster. A Simple majority decides *everything* in the House.

It's amendments to the Constitution that require 67 out of 100 Senators to pass (along with 33 of our 50 states' legislatures).
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katsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 11:37 AM
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28. Thank you!
:dunce:
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 03:55 PM
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10. Blumenauer was
And I posted a thread to ask people to email MSN and draw attention to his comments about the Texas case. It dropped like a rock. I should have said something snarky about Blumenauer, then I would have 100 responses. Worthless, but who really gives a shit I guess.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 03:57 PM
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13. I am torn between that
I think one hand it's good that democrats are staying out of this issue because it's not for them to do this. On the other hand I want them to come out and really blast them. But then again the republicans have already called democrats "immoral" and all that. People are seeing how ridiculous the GOP neocons are being and it's backlashing on them. They're doing it to themselves and this way they can't blame the democrats in the future since they're staying out of it.
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Steel City Slim Donating Member (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 04:09 PM
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15. Quiet Dems
I think the reason the dems aren't saying anything is the same reason why the repubs are----politics.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 03:29 PM
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2. Huh? Judge Skunk said that?
That is my nickname for him.

Uh-OH
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 03:43 PM
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5. Him and about every other attorney I have listened to today.
I even put the question to a RW talk show host attorney here locally today and he did not have a good answer.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1675483
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 11:46 AM
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29. Napolitano? Big deal, was a judge all of 5 years, handled DUIs
and other garbage cases mostly, in Bergen County, NJ. I sure don't look to him as any expert on anything.
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pox_americana Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 03:41 PM
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4. What scares me
is all the political capital being expended here. Think about it. The whole GOP- up to and including Bush are throwing their weight into this.

So much capital, I fear, that "losing" their side of the battle *will not be allowed*. Judges, courts, or whatever *will* be bent to force the "correct" outcome. They are past the point of retreat now, so failure is not an option.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 03:43 PM
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6. They only seem to care about "winning".
It's like nothing else matters at this point.

It's very bizarre.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 03:55 PM
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11. I agree. Absolute power corrupting absolutely...
It really does seem like it is all about the ability to win rather than making the humane and constitutional decision.
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Steel City Slim Donating Member (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 04:14 PM
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16. Or An Attempt At Misdirection
Maybe they want the focus on that instead of something else.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 03:44 PM
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7. That thought crossed my mind also
n/t
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SouthernDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 03:53 PM
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9. I disagree...
It is a win-win situation for the GOP.

If they win and the tube is back in they make some voters happy. Their core cheers and they look like they care.

If they lose and she dies they blame it on the Dems and Liberal judges. They win votes by making Dems look bad and they put pressure on Dems to appoint Bush's judges.

This is a great issue for the Reps.
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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 03:58 PM
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14. You might want to read the poll in LBN. Not even conservatives
agree with what Congress has done. This might bite them in a sensitive spot. ;-)
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 08:03 PM
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17. Yea this is an issue
that I think a lot of people may look at the pictures of Terri and say to themselves "I don't think I would like being in that position for 10 or 20 years with the government forcing the hospital to keep me alive".

This very well could backfire on them.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 08:12 PM
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19. Unless you look at Freak Republic,
They're eating this up.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 08:22 PM
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22. There's even a group over there
who know better. I witnessed quite a discussion that even questioned the Schindlers, as to whether they've been investigated the way the husband has been. Quite a few are very skeptical, but I think they refrain from posting rather than be flamed.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 08:15 PM
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20. there will be no "bite"
remember Elian Gonzales? The right wing got involved, all of America thought there were wrong to do so. No repurcussions.
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HamstersFromHell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 08:24 PM
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23. Not so.
They've bet the farm on this one as far as credibility goes to appease a very small minority of their base.

The polls seem to be indicating the rest of the base is not amused at this embarrassment.
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SF Bay Area Dem Donating Member (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 03:56 PM
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12. He is going to get fired if not careful...
The ole greaseball... right wingers that Faux caters to will not otlerate this shit.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 08:19 PM
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21. But the most important issue will be
why didn't the Dems stop them! Yes! It's all the Dems fault! I knew it had to be! You just have to spin it the right way!

Russert has already started with this crap. How fast can you back away and who can you point the finger at that isn't you.

I think part of the blame goes to the media. Ya think they'd agree?

(judytenuta)It could happen(/judytenuta)
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 10:58 AM
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27. why didn't the Dems stop them
Or more importantly I think it should be asked, why did some of the Dems vote for this? Clearly this was an abuse of legislative power, an undertaking that was blatantly unconstitutional. Therefore, don't you think that the Democratic party's representatives who where willing to go along with these unlawful tactics should be held to account?
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 01:45 AM
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25. I've heard him rail against the Patriot Act also.
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samplegirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 11:48 AM
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30. This shouldnt be that tough of issue for Democrats
I would think by now....everyones up to there eyeballs with the
Shiavo case and very few Americans want to be kept alive in a vegatative state, much less having Tom Delay deciding whether they
should live or die.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 11:48 AM
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31. The Judge is one of the more reasonable ones on Fux Nooze
He seems not to follow any party line but looks at issues on their own merits. And I think he basically is often on the side of civil liberties.
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PC12 Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 11:54 AM
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32. That's big news. If Fox News has their commentators...
saying this, the Rethugliklans have really gone over the line. They are officially FACISTS!
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