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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 05:44 PM
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is providing life support "playing God"?
How is it that artificially keeping someone alive is NOT considered "playing God"?

Wouldn't the Fundies think that if it were "God's will" she would survive without life support? Wouldn't THAT be God's will?
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BrainRants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 05:45 PM
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1. Simply, yes.
Anything unnatural is against God's will. Period.
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hollywood926 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 05:46 PM
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3. Guess we don't need hospitals, anymore.
:eyes:
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BrainRants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 05:53 PM
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9. Well it would free up a lot of parking spots!
(tongue firmly in cheek)
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hollywood926 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 05:46 PM
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2. She's being fed through a tube...
that's hardly artifical life support. Her heart is beating and her brain is working, albiet severely damaged.

Is starving someone to death "playing God?"
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BrainRants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 05:51 PM
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7. Circular logic.
One must eat to survive.
If one can not eat one can not survive.

She is not starving to death. Her body is refusing to do the things necessary to keep her alive.
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 05:52 PM
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8. This is a decision that is NOT Congress' to make.
what happened to the "get gov't out of my life" crowd?
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sundancekid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 05:57 PM
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11. inform yourself:feeding tube in this case=medical artificial life support!
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 06:02 PM
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14. Then if it's not life support, what's all the fuss about?
Pull the tube and let her order take-out. Oh yeah, she can't talk....well, have her write down her preference....after 15 years, I'll bet she could use a really tasty meal. Oh, she can't write; well, just have her point to pictures. Oh she can't point to pictures? Then someone could go down a list and have her blink once for yes and twice for no. Oh, she can't do that either. In fact, she has no functioning brain whereby food is even a concept. Hasn't had one for 15 years.

How would a person with no cognitive brain functions understand the concept of starving? Well, the right-to-lifers have us boxed in on that. We can't allow her to pass humanely, like giving her body a morphine drip. No, we have to do it passively and drag it out by starving her body to death. Because God would want us to treat His creatures that way.....
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 05:47 PM
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4. Yes
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 05:47 PM
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5. It is when you are providing it to an empty vessel.
If they had true Christian faith they would believe that one of two things would happen if the feeding tube is taken out:
1.) God will regrow her brain and she will get better or
2.) God will call her to heaven where she will be made whole again and be washed in the light and glory of God.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 05:49 PM
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6. In My View, Sir
Just about any medical practice beyond a pat on the head and some soothing words is doing just that. Not too long ago, reverends routinely denounced medical advances from anasthesia to antisepsis as interference with the designs of the diety. As is generally the case, the fundamentalists of the right are indulging themelves in some very selective outrage....
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 05:55 PM
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10. Wasn't God created in Man's image? (well, for the most part) nt
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 05:58 PM
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12. Ah, but why would you apply logic to a religious matter?
:silly:
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BrainRants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 06:03 PM
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15. I'm a geek, I apply logic to everything...
but your point is...ahem...logical.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 05:59 PM
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13. yes...eom
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 06:08 PM
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16. yes, but
I agree with The Magistrate here - as someone who would likely have shuffled off this mortal coil some time during Reagan's first term were it not for some pretty significant medical intervention, I'm not necessarily against "playing God". :)
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 06:11 PM
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17. It depends on your conceptulatization of how god functions.
Which is different for pretty much everybody. It comes from our own unique personal understanding of the universe.

Some conceptualizations would say yes, but I think by and large most people don't think that medical treatments circumvent the will of God, even fundies.
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