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rocktop15 Donating Member (376 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 06:05 PM
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Man is escorted out of town hall meeting after asking questions of Cheney


Dustin Barnes, 25, left, is escorted from a town hall meeting while trying to shout questions at U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney (news - web sites) at California State University, Monday, March 21, 2005, in Bakersfield, Calif. V.P. Cheney and Republican Congressman Bill Thomas, chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, used the meeting to discuss Social Security (news - web sites) reform.. (AP Photo/Ric Francis)
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 06:08 PM
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1. There'll be no question-asking!
All royal subjects are to remain seated an mute at all times. Pions who do not remain silent co-conspirators will be forceably removed for their own safety.

/sarcasm

:puke:
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 06:08 PM
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2. Thank you Mr. Barnes!
For doing what I couldn't get out of work to do today... thank you.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 06:09 PM
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3. A Republican "town hall" meeting
Just means the people in town who agree with them are allowed to participate. This is known as "bipartisanship," and is an example of the Bush administration's "solid, steady leadership."

Looks to me like Dustin Barnes (being taken out of the meeting) needs to go back and watch Faux News for a few more months so he can understand the way things work in the United States nowadays.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 06:10 PM
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4. The nerve of the man, asking questions at a town hall meeting
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Jersey Ginny Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 06:10 PM
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5. Who is paying for this propaganda tour anyway?
I don't know what was going on based on this. But I do want to know why I seem to be footing the bill for this propaganda tour that does not allow democrats or others who disagree with Bush policy to attend.
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AutumnMist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 06:10 PM
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6. I Grew Up In Bakersfield
Edited on Mon Mar-21-05 06:11 PM by AutumnMist
Cal State has come a very long way from its sleepy country roots. Apparently, not far enough however. I for one am glad to see all kinds of people speaking their mind on campus. Bakersfield needs it....boy do they need it.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 07:08 PM
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20. Another Bakersfield native.
When did you live there?
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 06:11 PM
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7. Do you have the link?
Thanks.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 06:12 PM
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8. What was he trying to ask?
Not every politician is as adept at dealing with hecklers as Clinton and Dean are. If this was someone really trying to start trouble, I guess I understand, but if he was just asking some difficult question that Cheney wasn't willing to discuss, that's another story!

Believe me, I'm not excusing Cheney, just pointing out that he's not as competent as Clinton and Dean at dealing with people!
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 06:33 PM
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15. 'what does baby's blood taste like?'
probably:shrug:
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chocolateeater Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 07:35 PM
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23. I don't know but
I think Cheney is not as adept in dealing with people as Clinton and Dean are, because he lives in a bubble made of yes men and toadies, so he doesn't have as much experience at interactng with the general public as Clinton and Dean.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 06:14 PM
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9. Now there's a True American Hero. One that believes in the Constitution
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 06:14 PM
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10. A QUESTION? What nerve! Does he think he is in that new democracy, Iraq?
Edited on Mon Mar-21-05 06:15 PM by BrklynLiberal
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 06:14 PM
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11. This should be on LBN. If you don't mind I will post it there? n/t
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 06:18 PM
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12. LINK?
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 06:19 PM
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13. Here is the link
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050321/480/carf10603212131
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 06:24 PM
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14. Dustin Barnes should contact the ACLU and..
sue for the right of Freedom of Speech. The bogus meeting should not be paid for by the U.S. citizens' taxes.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 06:34 PM
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16. Here is a Diary from Daily Kos about someone kicked out of a Bush
"townhall" because of his T-shirt.

"UPDATED AGAIN: BUSH's PUBLIC FORUM: Young American Kicked Out For Wearing Wrong T-Shirt
by Mister T in AZ


Mon Mar 21st, 2005 at 09:51:32 PST

Just got a call from some Arizona Young Democrats who are at the Tucson Bush Social Security "Forum" today. Turns out one of their crowd, Steven Gerner a 19 year old Sophomore at the University of Arizona, wasn't allowed into the taxpayer funded event.
His crime? WEARING A YOUNG DEMOCRATS T-SHIRT.

Update <2005-3-21 15:9:6 by Mister T in AZ>: 2: Turns out this shirt isn't the one Steven was wearing. Instead the shirt was blue, front was blank, and on the back it said "Be a Smart (then a democratic donkey)" Below that was "UofA Young Dems". Everyone is getting back from the event now - so I'm expecting pictures soon.

Update <2005-3-21 15:9:6 by Mister T in AZ>: 3: You'll love this. "Saint" McCain took the stage at the event and said something like "The door is open for the Democrats to talk to us about Social Security ... but they won't!".

Update <2005-3-21 17:45:45 by Mister T in AZ>: Just posted a draft release in another diary. Gonna give it a little bit (25 minutes) and then I'm sending it. Please, go doctor it up.

Diaries :: Mister T in AZ's diary ::
Now let me be clear. Steven wasn't wearing some anti-bush, anti-war, anti-Christian, anti-ANYTHING t-shirt. Instead his shirt simply said what is listed above, nothing more.

Below is an outline of what I have gathered from my conversation with Steven and a few other people who were standing near him:

Steven got a ticket from Congressman Grijalva's office, he gave his full name when he received it and followed the proper procedure.

When I asked him why he wanted to go to the event, Steven said he really wanted to get a chance to hear the Bush side of the Social Security debate. Plus, he had never seen a President speak and even if he is a dedicated Democrat - was excited to see the leader of his country speak.

Steven and a handful of other Young Democrats arrived early to ensure that they could get in. Afraid that anything might get them kicked out, everyone decided to wait quietly in line. Nobody wanted to disrupt the event - they just wanted to go and see the President.

About 20 minutes before doors opened for the event, a staff person came and noticed the t-shirt.

This staffer asked to see Steven's ticket, asked for a better look of his t-shirt, and then grabbed the ticket and crumpled it up in his hand.

Twenty minutes later the staffer came back and said that Steven's name had been "recorded" and that no matter what he tried he would be denied access to the event.

People around Steven were really shocked initially, mainly because he wasn't creating any sort of a disturbance and the "altercation" from their perspective seemed to have come from nowhere.

After being told he would be denied entry, Steven wasn't about to give up. He attempted to contact security, nothing came of it. Then he contacted another staffer, nothing came of it.

When Steven realized there was no way he was getting in, he left his friends and walked directly to the nearest reporter. Several have interviewed him already.
I think this is absolutely disgusting. The YDs are putting together a press release now on these events to help spread the story to local media ... do you have any suggestions with where we should go with it?

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/3/21/125132/213
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 06:48 PM
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17. This pisses me off!
:grr:

How dare they?
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onethatcares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 06:53 PM
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18. uhh, mr viceresident, could you give us some figures on
how this is for the betterment of the retirees? Could you list the cost or at least give we the people a ball park figure? Will the Oil from Iraq pay for this transition? Please, sir, give us some information.

That's what
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 06:55 PM
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19. What did he ask?
was it something like "Why don't you go fuck yourself?" or something reasonable? anyone know?
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 07:15 PM
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21. clearly Dick is not use to the "non-oath crowds"
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 07:27 PM
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22. "Town meetings"? These propagandites are still getting away with that BS?
Everything they do is just a freakin' fiction (for purposes of profits).

Why do these "representatives" continue to get away with the WORST abuse of power since Mussolini and Hitler?

How the hell did this happen?

What must we do to place a freakin' ceiling on such power-abusive freaks of human nature?
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 07:46 PM
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24. Look how happy the people around him look...
Edited on Mon Mar-21-05 07:53 PM by ailsagirl
Wonder why?

"Escorted?" Looks more like being ejected. :mad:

Kudos to you, Mr. Barnes
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 08:01 PM
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25. kick n/t
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 08:02 PM
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26. Free Speech and Democracy in Action.
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Donailin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 09:33 PM
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27. crooks don't like being asked questions
May Bestowe on Dick Cheney the reward he so richly deserves.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 11:16 PM
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28. kick n/t
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 11:24 PM
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29. oh yeah ..pay s.s. and count on that insurance..but god help you
if you ask any questions while these raving evil doer's destroy it and steal your money...noooo only repugs can ask questions..and those must be pre screened questions...ohhh no this is not america..this is the * and cheyne screw you show..lets see how badly they can screw americans before americans get off their asses and take to the streets!!...i feel like we have become the bend over society...bend over and let em screw us ..and just sit there and be polite about the screwing we are getting!!

disgusted fly
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 11:30 PM
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30. I love you Dustin Barnes!
You're my hero Dustin Barnes! You are brave and strong and smart and good. You are everything that is still good in this country. Full props.
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 11:38 PM
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31. Way to go Dustin Barnes!
Show them what fakes these filtered propaganda meetings are. This isn't America anymore. No dissent is tolerated by this fascist administration.

Sonia
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Iterate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 12:06 AM
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32. It's time for local democratic leaders to step up
and shout along with him

Thank You Dustin Barnes
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 01:58 AM
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33. kick n/t
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 02:00 PM
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34. This event is scheduled to be aired on CSPAN at 8PM est
See the CSPAN group for a daily schedule of events and stories behind the guests - http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=320

Today's schedule - http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=320x94

(pardon the shameless plug).
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 02:43 PM
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35. .
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