AAAGGGHHHH!!! THIS Schiavo thing is driving me nuts..

Everywhere I turn It is there, My Family I feel now looks at me as a monster, because I'm for the feeding tube to be removed, because I feel it is a hopeless situation, and and the parents should get on with their lives, and stop living in the past, they had 15 years to say good-bye. Even my sister who for the most part is a liberal person, is in agreement with my mom, and is starting to say that people do come out of like situtions, and sounding like fundies, I don't know what to?? I'm starting to feel dirty because of my opinion, does anyone feel the same, or have some advice for me?

that there is so much INCORRECT misinformation out there about this case. It is MADDENING!

I've tried talking to people about it but oy! :eyes: :silly: I'm so sick at all the bashing of Schavio and misinfo.

ago,,, just don't expect the stenographers to point it out

It is a fight between an executive running amock (and giving the middle finger) and a judiciary...

It is about separation of powers and the limits of the state to intervene in your and my life.

and I think that this fiasco is giving a bad name to Hospice care. Hospice was wonderful when my mother died and its a disgrace to basically accuse them of starving someone to death or causing them to die of thirst. You can't be admitted to hospice if you want to continue with tube feedings and IV's other than pain meds. So are they torturing all those who have made an end of life decision?
This entire circus is disgusting.

Hospice was wonderful to my mother. Gave her massages, swabbed her mouth out because she couldn't swallow, kept pain free with morphine, played her Yanni cd's, talked to her... and assisted the family with support when she moved on. I'm sickened by this whole display.

ask them bluntly.... do you think the Federal governemnt has a role in deciding whether I live or die? Or does taht decision reside with the individual?

of the brain scans, a normal one and Teri's. Print them and show your family them. That should erase all doubt that this woman is nothing more than a shell.

the government to step into this decision if it was one of them.

She is for taking out the feeding tube. But, I said to her that Terri's husband is being criticized for this and the media is saying Terri and her husband did not discuss this because 24 year olds don't discuss this type of info. My daughter said, media needs to listen to conversation of young people because they do discuss this issue. My daughter said this is a big topic with young people.

I must say that when I told my daughter about the email I sent to her and my son regarding my Living Will she cut short the conversation. Guess my kids think I'll live forever. I have a Living Will, their comment is "Oh, MOM!"

I'm sure it's just a few notches below talking with your parents about sex.

But good for you for doing it!

People do NOT come out of situations like this. They come out of comas. As I described it to my mom, picture a head of cauliflower. The outer portion is all mush and liquid while the stem is still there. You cannot grow a new brain and you can't rehabilitate it.

http://abstractappeal.com/schiavo/infopage.html

I suggest you ask them to look at even just the q&a portion of this.

And find someone reality-based to be in charge of your health decisions when/if the time comes.

You have no reason to feel dirty because of your opinion, but it doesn't sound like much is going to get through to your mom and your sister (unless of course, the cauliflower image works -- I thought that was ingenious for getting thing across to the non-scientific minds.)

What news are they watching? There may be a contributory avalanche you're fighting against.

and they are getting lost in a maddening swirl of misinformation and political nonsense.

The major question at issue is: does a terminal patient, or a patient with no hope of recovery, have a right to end treatment? And if they do, in the absence of written instruction and the inability of the patient to communicate their wishes, what is the hierarchy for making this decision?

Since both questions were answered in this case years ago, the issue can only be resolved in State courts. It is none of our affair. Our business as a society was concluded years ago, when we agreed on the answer to those two questions. All other considerations are pointless.

As the situation has developed in recent days, there are additional, peripheral issues that have arisen. These are all Constitutional in nature, and involve at this point what punishment should be meted out to those who have ignored and abused our Constitution and trampled on the issue of State's rights and the sanctity of familial relations. The Schiavos are only tangentally involved.

and excellent points!

on about 50 levels, I've had it. It's like national or religious fervor, after I hear about it over and over I start wondering if I'm nuts, or am missing some moral driving wheel. Now what's her name is like beanie babies, or NASCAR, I don't about it.

she had an eating disorder where she was purposely vomiting to keep herself slim. It was all about image in a sick way. What would she think if she knew she is shown as she is now all day long. I don't think she would want to live like this.