Has anyone ever recovered from a condition like Shiavo's?

democrat in Tallahassee

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Thu Mar-24-05 04:13 PM
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Has anyone ever recovered from a condition like Shiavo's?

That's the only question that needs to be asked. Anybody ever recover from this? Didn't think so.

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RPM

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Thu Mar-24-05 04:14 PM
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1. only one did better

Christ - with the whole raising from the dead thing...

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Guckert

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Thu Mar-24-05 04:14 PM
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2. Sean Hannity is the only one who is still working with a LIQUID brain..

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GetTheRightVote

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Thu Mar-24-05 04:14 PM
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3. NO

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gollygee

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Thu Mar-24-05 04:15 PM
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4. Even if it were possible to get a brain transplant

Edited on Thu Mar-24-05 04:15 PM by gollygee

she'd be a different person. Somebody else would be living in her body.

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kevinmc

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Thu Mar-24-05 04:15 PM
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5. don't give them false hope

"I find it opportunistic to use the death of someone like Christopher Reeve -- I think it is shameful -- in order to mislead the American people," Frist said. "We should be offering people hope, but neither physicians, scientists, public servants or trial lawyers like John Edwards should be offering hype.

"It is cruel to people who have disabilities and chronic diseases, and, on top of that, it's dishonest. It's giving false hope to people, and I can tell you as a physician who's treated scores of thousands of patients that you don't give them false hope."

- Senator Majority Leader Bill Frist, October 2004

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ktowntennesseedem

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Thu Mar-24-05 04:26 PM
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11. Great quote! If Frist were a Democrat, I'd say he flip-flopped.

Of course, Republicans NEVER flip-flop, but they do squrim like nobody's business when they get stuff like this thrown back in their face!

Welcome, kevinmc!!!

:hi:

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Mabus

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Thu Mar-24-05 04:19 PM
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6. might be possible with stem cell research

oops, they don't like that. Never mind.

Seriously, the brain can't reconstitute from primordial ooze back to an intact functioning brain.

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roguevalley

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Thu Mar-24-05 04:34 PM
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14. a researcher said stem cells couldn't help her. No. No one has.

It would be cited in the court papers and none has because you can't. Her brain has shrunk.

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Mabus

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Thu Mar-24-05 04:42 PM
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16. I know. I was joking

I was serious when I said you can't reconstitute the brain.

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formerrepuke

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Thu Mar-24-05 04:19 PM
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7. There was a guy a few years ago....

Sorry, cannot recall his name. Possibly in Tennessee, mid 1990s. A man who was in a coma for several years suddenly woke up, wanted to speak to his now-grown sons and his ex-wife. He spoke for a few hours, then fell back into a coma.. died shortly after. He was in a coma after being shot in the head- perhaps not the same condition as TS. Sounds like an urban legend- but it was all over the news when it happened.

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RaleighNCDUer

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Thu Mar-24-05 04:47 PM
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19. A coma is not PVS. No comparison. n/t

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Beaverhausen

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Thu Mar-24-05 04:21 PM
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8. No, according to Dr. Gupta on CNN yesterday

even as he was trying to make it sound like Terri isn't really in PVS...

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chelsea0011

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Thu Mar-24-05 04:23 PM
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10. CNN also had on a woman who recovered from paralysis

She was paralized from the eyelids down and I wondered what the hell that had to do with anything. Oh, she sided with the loons who think Terri can go out and get a job tomorrow if she had some rehab.

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Goldmund

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Thu Mar-24-05 04:22 PM
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9. Why does that question need to be asked?

It's totally irrelevant. This case revolves around what her wishes were. She didn't write anything down, so then it's up to her family to speak for her. There was a dispute between the husband and the parents, so then it was up to the courts to resolve that dispute. And they have. End of story.

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ktowntennesseedem

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Thu Mar-24-05 04:30 PM
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13. Good summation. That question has been asked and answered

many times, and the only reason we are at this point is that not everyone likes the answer.

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Walt Starr

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Thu Mar-24-05 04:27 PM
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12. Brain tissue cannot regenerate

and even if it could, everything that was Terri Shiavo liquified into spinal fluid years ago. so if we could magically regenerate her brain tissue today, we would have, in effect, a clone of Terri Shiavo with no memories and the mind of a newborn infant.

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roguevalley

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Thu Mar-24-05 04:35 PM
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15. none of the recoveries had a flat EEG. She has zero brain electricity

which is the standard for deciding brain death. They had some. She doesn't.

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Goldmund

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Thu Mar-24-05 04:44 PM
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17. I don't actually think that is true.

Her cerebral cortex is dead, but SOMETHING is making her heart beat, regulating her breath, etc. So she's obviously not brain-dead.

That said, to my knowledge, there's never been a recovery of anybody with a liquified cerebral cortex. Nor does it seem possible even in theory -- there's simply nothing in there to recover. But I don't think that her EEG could technically be flat.

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MisterP

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Thu Mar-24-05 04:49 PM
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20. her brainstem works, but that's it

it's a glorified spinal cord anyway

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RaleighNCDUer

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Thu Mar-24-05 04:45 PM
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18. She'd be liklier to get better

if she was turned into a newt.

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