Bush loving friends in debt up to their eyeballs

Parents of my daughter's friend have a Mcmansion and acres of land. They are in debt and the husband is a pilot for a major airlines. They blame all their troubles on 9/11 and don't see that the Bush* cabal is at fault. They were telling me that they don't have any money left and can't go shopping for fun anymore. I didn't have anything to say, but "I'm sorry." I don't know them well enough to bring politics into it, but know they voted for Bush via their daughter who saw our Kerry signs during the election.

It's sad and I feel for them. However, I would love to throw coffee on them and tell them to wake up!

Under the new bankruptcy law they can keep their McMansion. How nice.



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Figure it out the hard way. Right now, it's time for tough love on the freepers. If they hit hard times, point them to the welfare line. If they are hungry, tell them to get a job. If they can't get one, point them at the recruiters. If they want money to spend, tell them to get a credit card. If they're bankrupt, too bad.

It's time to be rough and tough. If they wanted a victory over godless liberals, let them have it.

They should live like millions of us who have suffered by the economic and social maelstrom of the past 4 years and realize how they've been shat upon by the very people they thought were their friends and protectors.

Anyone I meet who dares to say the voted for this regime, I call immoral, as they knowingly voted for an illegal war and are abeting a regime in it's pillage of our treasury and social institutions. There's no excuses and the brave few who try to rebut get their asses really handed to them. I have no tolerance or patience for these people...and definitely no sympathy.

Here's hoping they've got thousands in debts that their friends at the GOOP banks decide to hike the rates on...digging them in further and forcing them to sell their McMansion. Let them see what life under Repugnicans is really like.

I hope everyone responsible for these fuckers in office suffer horribly.

The problem is they are nice people. I really like them. I don't like the fact that they support this regime. Take politics out of the equation and they are nice. Yes, I want them to figure it out, but they have drunk the kool-aid. They are religious and I think are brainwashed into thinking that Bush is our saviour.

I'm sure they're wonderful, nice, fun people...but they also voted to send Americans to die in a war rife with profiteering and supports the wholescale destruction of the middle class. If they can't realize this or put some silly rhetoric and let others do their thinking, it's time they got a doseage of reality...and to shame them for the abeting this regime.

Of course, the easy way out is to ignore politics and pretend we're all one happy family. I wouldn't trust these people...sorry, when you willingly vote to continue this war and enable a regime that perverts "values" and organized religion for selfish, arrogant agendas, I'd look for new friends.

some people are just ignorant about stuff. Some people learn when it's too late. But I think it's better late then never. I think for people to turn on Bush they have to learn the hard way. When it hits you it'll hit you hard to imagine your government doing some things they do. I used to be in ignorance but now I've learned and know the error of my ways. :) It'll come with time. As Bush said: "Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice- won't get fooled again." Or something like that.

'cause I would've said something. I distinctly remember the airlines refused to implement the security recommendations of the Gore Commission claiming that it would cost them too much money.

Then I remember that after the government bailed them out after 9/11 that it was reported a year or so later that 1 of the airlines CEO's refused the bonus offered to him in an effort to keep that airline in the black, but the other greedy SOB's took theirs.

Besides, my general policy with Bush** voters is if they fall on hard times I wouldn't piss on them if their guts were on fire. They voted to make the country a hell of a lot leaner and meaner.

I love DU. In fact, I think I stay on this website far more than I should. : ) I have visited this site for over 2 years and only managed a few hundred posts.

I know that I spend too much time here.

I would be willing to bet on that.

PS Welcome to DU Oregonjen

Wasn't the treasure the highest it's been in our history as a country? So wha?

in the US military. If he loves Bush he must love the Iraq war. A skilled pilot should have no trouble getting into his national guard unit. He can even earn some money to goto college to learn a new skill. A newly skilled American should have no trouble in the new Bush America job factory. I see him at cash register in Walmart. This new job would allow him to watch others shop for fun and thus help to get him past his own lack of ability to do the same.

The ONG are limiting his hours soon. He flies part time with them to keep the F-15/16? in shape. We are going to have a rough summer with a drought here. I would think they would want to keep him.

The military needs active combat troops more than state side part time fliers. The military budget is stretched rather thin ATM.

i just can't. they are getting what they deserve.

I don't know of ANY of my daughter's friends' parents who are Democrats...they are ALL Bush voters or they don't vote at all and they are in their own little corner of the world....they don't read except what in the local paper and they watch Fox.

Basically, they are nice people, like you've said. I learned not to talk politics with them but they definitely know where I stand from election time when I was pouring my heart and soul into getting rid of this administration. They just laugh at me and think I'm so "silly". Then they proceed to name all the bad things Democrats have done, basically parroting what they hear from their husbands or TV or church.

Ever since the election, I've quit hammering them. I've just been sitting back, figuratively eating my popcorn and enjoying the show.

I've been quietly laboring away, trying to pay down debt while they spend away! I think it's going to come around and bite them in the behind soon. Might even bite me a little but not as much as them, for they are WAYYY over their heads.

My husband and I are quietly laboring away trying to bring down our mortgage, while they are deeper and deeper in debt. We have no idea what this administration is going to do next, so we can't afford the extra vacation to Hawaii, extra BMW, and designer clothes that cost a fortune and we always eat meals in with our family. It seems like everyone I know goes out to eat at least 2 times/week. We can't afford that.

have been on several trips just within the last year. They've been to Las Vegas twice, a Caribbean cruise, Florida twice, now they're in Cancun, sent their college-age daughter on a credited summer trip to Europe for the summer, and they attend many concerts and college ballgames, etc. She told me they have what's called "revolving credit" on their home with which they tell me they help pay for one daughter's college tuition. Another daughter is graduating this spring and will be going to college making that 2 of them in college at the same time. I can't tell you how many other countless expensive things they've done to the house and more. She is a nurse (she is also my co-worker and I'm a nurse) and he is a teacher who does photography on the side. I just don't see how they are doing it. They pay for 4 cars (1 brand new) and all the insurance that goes along with that and for their college-age daughters apartment. So they're basically supporting 2 households. There is just no way I can see this is not a trainwreck waiting to happen. Can you believe this?! It's madness.

We don't have the funds to take a trip anywhere. Actually, I'm not complaining. I don't want to vacation with tons of other Oregonians. Our street is verrry quiet this week with only 2 families home this week. I don't know where all the money is coming from for everyone to leave and travel. :shrug:

My husband and I want our money to go to college for the kids and retirement for us. I have no problem with that.

I let my daughter go with another family last year at spring break just to see what all the hoopla is about and to curb her fantasies about Florida and to experience flying in a plane. She didn't bother to ask me at all this year. They went near Sarasota and she said about half the high school from our town was down there as well and they were all on the same beach in the same condos!! Now when I expect to go on vacation, I would hope to GET AWAY from my town, not meet it in another place!

When I let my daughter go on that trip with this family, they are considered VERY religious to the point that they've now left to start a church in Iowa--they believe Bush* was God appointed! My daughter came back to tell me that the grandparents (of whose Florida home they were staying at) were very staunch Democrats and the whole family got into a huge fight about Bush*!!!! My daughter is definitely liberal and considers herself Democrat even though she can't vote yet and said she was so happy to hear someone defend the Democratic side for once! My daughter couldn't believe that her friend's grandparents were so liberal compared to her parent's views! I thought that was a good experience for her to witness.

This goes for customers too.


"You only get what you vote for....."

They got what they voted for. (Unfortunately, so did we.)

I wouldn't waste sympathy on them. They voted for what they wanted; they got what they wanted.

Stop it, you will make Republican hearts bleed, were it possible.

"Let me tell you my thoughts about tax relief. When your economy is kind of ooching along, it's important to let people have more of their own money."
- George W. Bush, Boston, Oct. 4, 2002

"We need an energy bill that encourages consumption."
- George W. Bush, Trenton, N.J., Sept. 23, 2002


"I think the American people--I hope the American--I don't think, let me--I hope the American people trust me."
- George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Dec. 18, 2002

hell, in this economy, many consider themselves lucky to shop for food.

As a matter of fact, he's a person of rank. He has always voted Republican until 2004, when he told his wife they all had to vote for Kerry because it was better for their livelihood and his career.

of their IGNORANCE. That's what it is too...IGNORANCE. WE knew better than to vote for that asshole, why didn't they? No compassion from me. WE WARNED THEM ALL. They chose to ignore our warnings. Now they can live with their choice.