Bush is STILL trying to loot Soc Security and we're talking about SCHIAVO!

UdoKier

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Fri Mar-25-05 12:39 PM
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Bush is STILL trying to loot Soc Security and we're talking about SCHIAVO!

WTF?

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tx_dem41

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Fri Mar-25-05 12:40 PM
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1. I have read lots of stories this week in the MSM about Soc. Security...

haven't you?

I'm capable of following two stories at once. Amazing, ain't it?

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UdoKier

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Fri Mar-25-05 12:43 PM
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5. The focus is on TS.

Edited on Fri Mar-25-05 12:45 PM by UdoKier

I realize it's not an irrelevant story.

But it doesn't merit this kind of attention. You'd think it was freaking 9-11.

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tx_dem41

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Fri Mar-25-05 12:46 PM
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8. If people didn't eat it up, the MSM wouldn't be pushing it.

Your beef is with the public.

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UdoKier

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Fri Mar-25-05 12:48 PM
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9. I guess I thought DU was a bit sharper than "the public"

At least we mostly resisted the Scott/Laci, R. Blake and Michael Jackson fevers.

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Journeyman

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Fri Mar-25-05 06:32 PM
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13. Not as much chance a DUer will commit murder or molest kids. . .

but there's a considerable possibility they may have to deal with a Terri Shiavo-type situation, for either their loved ones or for themselves, so all people -- not just DUers -- have more of a vested interest in the Schiavo story than have interest in yet another murder case or the trial of an alleged pedophile.

That said, I agree with tx_dem41, that I'm capable of following multiple threads at the same, though I do hope the board finds some balance, and soon.

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SoCalDem

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Fri Mar-25-05 06:35 PM
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14. amen.. Hoping for a return to sanity

Edited on Fri Mar-25-05 06:37 PM by SoCalDem

What I wish we had here was a HOT HOT HOT forum just for stuff like this, so that whatever the "orgasmapallooza du jour" is could be all collected in one place where everyone at DU could start their very own thread about it and kick it to death:)

and the rest of us could still enjoy DU the way it usually is... diverse in thought and subject matter:)

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Sat Mar-26-05 09:37 AM
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17. It's silly to suggest that the 'public' determines which stories...

...get priority in the mainstream corporate media. The story doesn't drive the media...the media drives the story.

I find it very strange that the 'public' is so ignorant that they can't see that this corporate media works FOR the Bush White house and uses 'news' like this to distract attention away from Bush corruption and scandals.

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tx_dem41

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Sat Mar-26-05 10:31 AM
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18. Nice backhanded way of making...

a personal attack. Bravo.

Its also silly to suggest that ratings have no input as to choice of coverage. If it bleeds it leads.

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cidliz2004

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Fri Mar-25-05 12:49 PM
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10. Maybe you can follow two stories at the same time but you are missing

bigger picture. Schaivo is being used to divert the media coverage and our attention from other things that are going on in this country. If most people only watch or listen to 10 -30 minutes of news a day, most of that time is spent on Shaivo and how much else is devoted to the other bullshit that is happening? NOT ENOUGH! That is the point.

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tx_dem41

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Fri Mar-25-05 12:52 PM
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12. No, people are choosing to divert their own attention, because they..

eat this stuff up. The MSM keeps feeding the baby what it wants. It's called ad revenue.

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cidliz2004

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Sat Mar-26-05 09:24 AM
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15. The more that Schaivo is covered the more that people care

and then there are the people that don't care stop paying attention to the news because they are sick of seeing Schiavo

Corporations control the media and what is on it and what isn't. The "revenues" can be overtaken by Corporate agenda, such as highlight the Schaivo case and push Iraq, Social Security, ....down to the bottom of the heap. They have proven that "ratings", thus revenue can come second as was shown in the Reagan Bio that wasn't aired... Corporate media has been using the media for it's own agenda for awhile now.

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tx_dem41

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Sat Mar-26-05 10:33 AM
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19. You haven't proven your point, IMO...

in the case of the Reagan Bio, quite possibly they made the decision that future revenue loss wasn't worth a short term revenue gain.

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cidliz2004

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Sat Mar-26-05 11:25 AM
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21. Quite Possibly, but Bush has the support of most corporations

and most corporations are running the major media channels...so by a process of deductive reasoning it is safe to assume that the Schaivo case is being used as an effective smokescreen to divert the attention of the majority of the public AWAY from the OTHER important news stories of the day.

The corporations have enough minions to do their bidding and to buy their products, they have already proven that their minions are much more organized than the Dems - Repubs organize an boycott as a group much more quickly than we do. So, your thoughts on news organizations being solely run by revenue producing stories isn't quite the WHOLE story.

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tx_dem41

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Sat Mar-26-05 11:46 AM
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22. Corporations being corporations, they also want to make money.

Again, I have read many many articles in newspapers, magazines, and on the Internet, about Social Security, Iraq, Kyrgyzstan, China/Taiwan, etc. etc.

Ultimately, its the duty of the public to be informed and seek this information. If they don't do it, they sadly deserve the government they get.

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cidliz2004

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Sat Mar-26-05 08:47 PM
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24. They ARE!!! Bush's hand is washing their hands with Government

Giveaways. Loopholes/outsourcing/loosening immigration laws/ turning a blind eye to corporate fraud on and on and on

The Corporations do Bush's bidding and he does theirs.

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tx_dem41

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Sat Mar-26-05 09:04 PM
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26. I agree with the sentiment of your post....

but, market forces do also play into the choice of what is covered.

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Merlot

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Fri Mar-25-05 12:41 PM
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2. I agree. All these articles about bushes "first failure" are premature

He will not give up. He will not stop. He has the luxury of not understanding failure.

People are being lulled into complacency (again).

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screembloodymurder

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Fri Mar-25-05 12:41 PM
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3. What about the war?

Are we still in Iraq?

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liveoaktx

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Fri Mar-25-05 12:43 PM
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4. Do you think ONE THREAD re: this would have been enough

Oh, no, now I have to have yet MORE repetitive threads to *hide".

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cidliz2004

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Fri Mar-25-05 12:45 PM
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6. So True, the big story on the news is Schiavo, while Bush

is looting SS. The media is not doing their job as usual and once again they have sucked almost everybody into the Schiavo story while most other MORE IMPORTANT stories are virtually ignored. Repubs are really good at that and most others are really good at getting sucked in.

Schaivo is an important story, but not that important, not important enough to get 3/4 of the coverage that it is getting. For some reason people just love jumping on bandwagons. Some for ulterior motives and others because they are followers and still others because this may strike a familiar cord in their personal life.

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Pacifist Patriot

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Fri Mar-25-05 12:46 PM
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7. I'm actually pretty good at multi-tasking.

This week besides talking about Schiavo (well actually the far right wing attempt to function as everyone's decision maker) I:

attended a peace protest vigil

attended a press conference that highlighted privacy issues post-9/11 with respect to war protestors.

Was trained as a Democratic precinct captain.

Wrote a letter to the editor about the U.S. Occupation of Iraq

Wrote to my senators and representatives about social security.

Oh, and I painted a guest room and my office.

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RBHam

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Fri Mar-25-05 12:52 PM
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11. Bush has already spent it...

The War and tax breaks for his wealthy base...

It's gone.

Not there.

Flew the coop.

Barren, even...

That's why they are pushing to "reform" Social Security...

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mondo joe

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Sat Mar-26-05 09:35 AM
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16. I care more about the right to choose than social security.

Separation of powers as well.

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flyarm

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Sat Mar-26-05 10:46 AM
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20. until you need it!!

many now are close to needing it..and many have paid for it and entire lifetime...remember ..we all hate paying for insurance ..until we need it!!

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mondo joe

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Sat Mar-26-05 12:12 PM
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23. Same goes for the right to choose.

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flyarm

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Sat Mar-26-05 09:01 PM
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25. absolutely!! n/t

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