The Bible re: a wife's submission vs. the Fundie postion on Terri Schiavo

"In a similar text in 1 Peter 3:1-7, the submission of the wife is required even if the husband is “disobedient to the word” (3:1).139 For the wife to submit, her husband does not have to be intelligent, wise, or a “spiritual leader.” The fact that he is her husband is the only qualification given. As such, the wife’s submission to him is a reflection of the submission of the church to Christ. If the husband utterly fails to fulfill his obligations as laid down by Paul, this in no way relieves the wife of her obligation to submit to him. Indeed, her submission becomes all the more striking as his leadership proves to be poor."

http://www.bible.org/page.asp?page_id=2449

For someone who grew up fundamentalist, the hypocrisy here is astounding. There are many more verses that I could quote about this, but this one makes the point. It kills me to hear wingnuts like Joe Scarborough call Michael an "interested witness" when they know damn well what the scripture says about this. This is THEIR bible, this is THEIR philosopy, that they are railing against Michael Schiavo with. It is one of many ironic points in this whole fiasco, another being that they are railing against right to die AS A MATTER OF PRINCIPLE, notwithstanding the fact that their saint apparently volunteered for his fate when he could have just pulled a Genie and gotten the hell out of dodge, essentially committing suicide.

Sorry to start one more thread on it, but this needs to be pointed out. At my fundie brother's funeral, the pastor preached a side sermon on the doctrine of a wife's submission. Did Terri Schiavo get an exemption from her parent's doctrine in this case?

in Catholic belief.

And you also can't tell me that barring the practice of birth control is not a doctrine of submission.

Do catholics not use the new testament? Do they skip over the chapter of Paul?

And listen, I was just answering your question about her parents ("Did Terri Schiavo get an exemption from her parent's doctrine in this case?"), not telling you anything about the protesters. What did you bring that up for? Go back and read your own post.

and they used to cite Paul endlessly to din it into the malleable skulls of rebellious girls.

No wonder I left.

that they never did get through to this rebellious Catholic girl.

heh heh heh

soft-pedaled it, knowing that too many of us girls would look at them like, "Oh yeah? Submission THIS". And my Catholic Girls HS was fairly enlightened (detention at the drop of a hat notwithstanding), teaching us to realize our full potential and all that good stuff.

Paul was such an ass.

At least my momma had the choice to use the pill. Of course,now many protestant fundies are becoming baby factories.

(1971) there was no "obey" in the vows.

you got married in the 70's, in the middle of the feminst era. In the 21st century, women are voluntarily picking up the mantle of oppression. It's revolting, however fashionable amoung young women...it's like they think if they go traditional they'll grow double D's just like Jessica Simpson.

Fixed that some years later, though.

"The Bible is a book with some beautiful poetry, a bloodstained history, a wealth of obscenity, and upwards of 10,000 lies. - Mark Twain

Just like they stole Canaan from the natives, I'm sure they stole alot of the literature too.