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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 08:18 PM
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Doesn't get much sicker than this folks


What the hell were they thinking with this one?
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 08:19 PM
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1. They weren't. nt
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TheModernTerrorist Donating Member (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 08:19 PM
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2. Pardon my French
but what the fuck?
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 08:19 PM
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3. Where the **** did you find that? n/t
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 08:22 PM
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4. Here and here
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 08:23 PM
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5. Given the state of the world today...
... God's fix was pretty temporary, I would guess. He might have been better off using duct tape....
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 08:26 PM
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6. I am wondering if...
they mean Jesus as God when he was a carpenter(allegedly). Or God as seperate from jesus and actually driving the nails in to Jesus' hands and feet(allegedly).
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savannahana Donating Member (491 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 10:00 PM
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10. great question, tracking all the way back to 325 CE
gotta wonder if the people who come up with such slogans have ever once heard of or read about the Council of Nicea
or the Arian "Heresy" ... no matter how many times a week they recite the Nicene Creed in church

i'd say (to respond to your wondering) they mean God as separate from Jesus & actually driving the nails into Jesus' hands and feet...

in which case, they're reverting to the Arian "heresy"
(1 + 1 + 1 = 3) ( homoi-ousion or "of like substance" - the Arian position)

whereas the official doctrinal math of the church as determined at Nicea embraces the concept of homo-ousion , "same substance" or con-substantial, "sharing the same substance"
(1 = one = indivisible ... yet supporting the concept of the Trinity - the Trinitarian position)

...in which theo-logical case - - umm, go figure?

the "church fathers" were definitely "master carpenters" in the sense that they managed to mortise-&-tenon all this so that it's (seemingly) hung together (sorry, bad pun, mostly unintended) for almost 2000 years

but it's the twisted & desperate imperial politics (Constantine) behind Nicea that trumps even the theological pretzel-logic... & i've yet to talk with a fundie or a "rapture-zealot" who knows any of this history much less has a clue how many forms of (doctrinal) "heresy" s/he falls into by voting with the Dominionist/united states of jesus idealogy

a person these days could get burned at the stake (phrase getting less metaphorical day by day) PDQ for even attempting to correct them in their misbegotten (ok, really bad Nicean pun...) theology

so...i better just shut up here before i get in over my own skeptical smokin' head & just post a link for anybody interested &/or curious

http://ancienthistory.about.com/cs/godsreligion/p/aa082499.htm




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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 11:14 PM
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16. You know....
Edited on Fri Mar-25-05 11:14 PM by walldude
I didn't understand a word of that. And I'm not afraid to admit it. Welcome to DU! :toast:
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 08:54 PM
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7. Actually, the Romans used nails
God didn't really get involved too much.

:evilgrin:
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savannahana Donating Member (491 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 10:03 PM
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11. works from my perspective
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 09:00 PM
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8. This is why I stick with
Crazy Glue for all my saviors.
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 09:26 PM
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9. lol
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savannahana Donating Member (491 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 10:15 PM
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13. mega yukketies - mental cartoon that won't quit
(why isn't there a smilie for a good-n-punchy kinda LMAO??)

BTW OldLeftie, hadn't seen you here last couple days, so now's my chance to thank you (from my mate, too) for the durable power of attorney you generously made available earlier this week

we're using it, pronto, so please accept sincerest thanks, &

:toast:
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 11:07 PM
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14. Well, that's great
Now, be sure to execute it and follow through with the distribution. That's the most important part.

I'm so glad to be able to help. Pass it along.

:yourock:
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 10:10 PM
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12. I'm sure Christ would have preferred duct tape.
But then, that would be such a disappointment to Mel "give me blood" Gibson.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 11:08 PM
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15. Oh, I don't know
There could have been long, slow-motion sequences of the tape being ripped off from the hairiest parts of Jesus's body.

Wait.

That's waxing.

Jesus Wax?
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