Something freaky is happening with Hal Turner -advise?

I posted about this yahoo earlier, here
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3351133

I looked back in and saw two new posts on his site:

first: WHY AREN'T THESE COPS BEING SHOT DEAD AS SHOULD BE DONE?
10 Year Old Boy Arrested After Attempting To Bring A Glass of Water to Terri Schiavo!
These cops are enabling the death of a competely innocent, totally helpless woman, Terri Schiavo, who is being systematically starved to death. They deserve to be shot in the head and killed!
I'm keeping all these cop photos in case I decide to do something to them later on.

(accomanied by a photo of cops arresting the girl)

the next post read:

OPERATION "EXTRICATE" IS A "GO"

NOW the site reads:

Web Site Updates Temporarily offline.
I am traveling to do something important.

http://www.halturnershow.com/

Some posters on the first thread contacted law enforcement. Do you suppose they are keeping an eye the situation?

And whoever wrote that is CRAZY and better watch what they say on the internet.

Geez. Now I'm worried about the police officers there.

A radical who was peripherally involved in the recent case about the judge whose family was killed.

(I fixed the link to the previous DU post- it has the souce links on it)

http://www.halturnershow.com/History.html

Regardless of the topic: race, religion, politics, sexuality, other "taboo" subjects or just the news of the day; Hal says what he thinks, no matter who doesn't like it. His common sense opinions and brutally blunt language often skewer the sacred cows of political correctness and get government types very nervous. Some call it "hate speech." But the fact is that Hal tells the truth and a lot of people HATE hearing it!

I used Google.

Unbelievable.

are you sure it's not a stunt?

"Hal Turner" is mentioned in the stories about the judge who's family was killed recently, but I can't personally vouch for any of it.

who broadcasts a hate show via short wave radio, said on his show that Judge Lefkow was “worthy of being killed. It wouldn’t be legal, but in my opinion, it wouldn’t be wrong.”

to determine if it is a stunt or not. While I agree with you that it certainly could be, it is important that people report sick and threatening messages like this to the authorities. It is their job to determine if it is a stunt or not.

This really has me creeped out.

I was referring to the latest comment
"Web Site Updates Temporarily offline.
I am traveling to do something important"

I knew what you were referring to, and didn't say that you said don't report it. You did make a comment that could make responsible people question if they should report this, and I pointed out that your point was not a valid issue for those inclined to be proactive in this case.

Who died and made you the "point" police? Perhaps you'd like to peruse my other posts to see if you can find other points that you feel are not valid issues.

I was asking Rose if she thought it might be a stunt and since she stated that it had ALREADY been reported, my comment wouldn't have had any bearing on the pro-actively inclined.

Next time you decide I don't have a valid issue either ask me for clarification or ignore it. I shouldn't have to defend myself against what you thought I meant.

because you have not been attacked. You are, however, being silly with statements about "thought police" and other nonsense.

Big difference.

But I'm tolerant of the sarcasm-challenged.

We can only hope this is a stunt. I wouldn't wait around to find out if that's all it is.

We don't want blood on our hands as this thing escalates out of control.

EDITED for grammar.

Hal Turner is a right wing radio talk show personality in New Jersey (when I say right wing, I don't just mean to the right of Attila the Hun; he's to the right of Ann Coulter).

His website today contained verbage advocating that force should be used to take custody of Terry Schiavo and anybody who tries to stop the "rescue" should be killed. It also said that the hospice where she is housed should be truck bombed.

Many of us felt this was just a wee bit beyond the pale.

"just a wee bit beyond the pale"

Indeed....

There was a DU thread yesterday about a child of 13 being arrested for throwing an egg at Pres. B*...war protest.

Wouldn't that kill Terri? Does he want her dead or alive? Or doesn't he care as long as he controls her fate?

they have whipped the base into a frenzy and now they are loosed to wreak havoc?
I just checked...there is nothing about Schiavo on MSNBC or CNN after days of non-stop reporting. Didn't have the stomach to look at Faux. The talking heads like Joe Scarborough, et al, are responsible for this as much as Congress and the BFEE.
Oh and looky here...neither Bush is around to calm the waters.
Seems to me they should be anticipating this and would have called extra troops in there to preserve the peace--or is that the exact point they aren't there?

IMHO, it would be good if Ms. Schiavo went to her great reward this weekend. In fact, I think I'll say a prayer for it. The scene at the hospice is a freak show. What's next this year?

A personal page on the site says he lives in NYC.

He posted an address earlier IRT to trying to find out about that AOL user. I copied it and posted it on another site earlier.

He is within a 12 hour drive or so, or faster by plane...

I wonder if that person might be in danger.

If anyone here knows an AOL user under the handle named below, please warn him/her.

From Hal Turner's website:

"ATTENTION AOL OPERATIVES:
PLEASE SEND TO ME THE SUBSCRIBER NAME AND ADDRESS OF AOL USER KNOWN AS: "ABSOLUTELYNOGAME" "

Are there laws that would allow the FBI to get involved? This isn't a tangible threat, but it isn't a comfortable situation. It probably crosses statelines.

lets see if there is a response...

Very strange posts, he is out for blood.

Seriously. Guy has probably broken a few laws.

?

It must be reported. Absolutely.

To the FBI and to a Supervisor at the Pinellas Park Police by more than one person.

Caligirl reported that she had contacted the FBI in Tampa about Turner's threats. She also reported it the Pinellas Park Police Department. She said both the FBI and the police were taking the matter seriously.

This guy sounds certifiable.

don't need to be said publicly.

The guy sounds insane.

I don't know who Hal Turner is, but his threats against the police officers is serious and I'm glad it's been reported.

This sounds like utter madness.

I hope the CON will credit bloggers who tipped off law enforcement.

Just after 9 he posted about "Operation Extrication is a go" and now, an hour later, his site is just saying he is "off to do something important".

Notice at 9 he also took off his mail address from under his request for info on the aol user?


Methinks Hal and his buds will be storming that hospice by sun-up....

Read these other wacko threads

Man arrested for Michael Schiavo threat - http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1342468

Man Trys Steal Gun to 'Rescue Schiavo' - http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1340498

FBI arrests North Carolina man who contracted for murder ... - http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3354158

Radio repub advocates force to rescue Schiavo and death to interference (Rose's original) - http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3351133

sheesh!

Do you mean this one?

Hal Turner
1906 Paterson Plank Road
North Bergen, NJ 07047

I am glad you posted it here. Might prove useful.

http://www.adl.org/learn/news/Suprem_Urge_Bomb.asp?&MSHiC=1252&L=10&W=hal+TURNED+turner+TURNERS+&Pre=%3CFONT+STYLE%3D%22color%3A+%23000000%3B+background%2Dcolor%3A+%23FFFF00%22%3E&Post=%3C%2FFONT%3E

White Supremacist Radio Host Urges Bombings, Assassinations

Updated: March 22, 2005
Update: Hal Turner
White supremacist Hal Turner named three federal court judges with connections to the Matt Hale case as public officials who “need to be reined in.” Turner also posted the judges’ full names and addresses on his Web site, and read their names during a March 5, 2005, appearance on the Fox News program “Geraldo.”

Turner, of North Bergen, New Jersey, has a history of explicitly encouraging extreme violence against Jews, other minorities and government officials. Turner shut down his shortwave radio show down in early 2004, allegedly for lack of funds, and has confined his activities since then to posting violent and racist political and societal commentary on his Web site, which he updates frequently. Some of his more recent statements include:

On February 28, 2005, Turner advocated assaulting and killing African-Americans on March 15 to commemorate his birthday: “I think a full day of violence against blacks . . . would be a really nice thing . . . complete with lynchings, church burnings, drive-by shootings and bombings to put these subhuman animals back in their place.”

On January 3, 2005, Turner posted the presidential inauguration parade route on his Web site, saying “it seems to me there can be no protection against a ‘Turner Diaries’ type of mortar attack or a Hezbollah-type rocket attack launched from outside the security zone. Rest assured, if the fed’s get wiped out, I’ll be cheering the TV set!”

In addition to his activities in the United States, Tuner recently returned from a trip to Brazil to help generate support for his efforts and those of other white supremacist organizations.


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Posted: November 7, 2002
White supremacist radio talk show host Hal Turner, known for incendiary anti-Semitic and racist rhetoric, has caused concern in recent weeks by explicitly encouraging extreme violence against Jews, other minorities, and government officials. Among other measures, Turner has advocated bombings and assassinations.

Turner hosts the "Hal Turner Show" (apparently from his home in North Bergen, New Jersey, although he has a New York City mailing address). The show is broadcast on weekday evenings by shortwave radio station WBCQ out of Monticello, Maine, and reaches most of the country. It is also simulcast on the Internet.

Turner's language and message are often extreme, and in recent months Turner has repeatedly urged acts of violence and terrorism. On September 25, for example, Turner suggested to his audience that "it is time to start killing Jews in the United States, cut their throat as they walk down the street, drive by and blast them with a shotgun…throw Molotov cocktails through their jewelry store windows and then Israel can ask us to stop."


Hal Turner
Turner encouraged his audience to "BOMB their synagogues, BOMB their businesses, let's BOMB their homes, that's what I SAY because maybe when these filthy Jew, mother f--- start dying en masse here in the United States, they will pay attention over in Israel."

Jews are not the only target of Turner's exhortations toward violence.

On October 22, Turner told listeners that "if the INS can't do its job, and round up these illegal aliens, then in my opinion, we people who are here legally, should maybe think about drive-by shootings with machine guns in front of every Mexican Consulate and kill every single one of these invaders."

On October 28, when a caller alleged that a federal judge stopped expenditure for a new courthouse because the town was not diverse enough, Turner opined, "I hope somebody assassinates that Federal Judge."

On Halloween, after hearing that "international observers" were coming to monitor the upcoming election in Florida, Turner called on the people of Florida to go to the polls armed and demand that the observers leave - or kill them on the spot if they refuse.

Although Turner claims no formal affiliation with any white supremacist group, his "Hal Turner Radio Network" broadcasts Aryan Nations programs and provides air time to other white supremacist guests such as Matt Hale, leader of the World Church of the Creator. Turner also sponsors other race-baiting programs, among them Michigan white supremacist James Wickstrom's "Yahweh's Truth."

Hal Turner seems to shoot off his vile mouth a lot in that fashion.

I called the FBI last year when Hal Turner made some threats on his website, which sounded to me like he was trying to encourage his listeners to assassinate the two New York mayors who were performing gay marriages at the time. I got a local phone number for them by doing a search online, only to find that the number given there had not had its area code on the web page changed in the three years since the whole county changed area codes. Remember that if you ever want them doing something nuanced regarding information.

The fellow I spoke with there was pretty languid when I asked him if the FBI was aware of the assassination talk. I mentioned that I'd alerted one mayor's office, and asked if he knew if the other mayor was aware of that someone was trying to encourage violence against him. He said he didn't know, but if I wanted, I could call that mayor and tell him myself. Thanks for getting off your butt and looking after our elected officials, you lazy asshole. Just leave it up to some public-spirited citizen to do your work.

Bad FBI, no donut.

The guy's a total pig, but even the freepers don't take him seriously, or at least they won't admint it. But it would be great if the feds picked him up for running his mouth.

I don't believe for a MOMENT that this spineless little douche is actually travelling to carry out some paramilitary rescue!

Only the deluded asshats who ENJOY his barking mad ravings
are buying this latest load of bullshit.

He's just spending the weekend at Guckerts, cooking up some lame fantasy to explain why he never rescued Schiavo!

:crazy:Turner:crazy:

Thanks for kicking this - I was curious myself.:hi:

He isn't the real danger then. Rather, the worry is just who he might incite.

He hates everyone! Jews, gays, cops, KARL ROVE.

Now there's taste for you. :eyes:

;)

His website is updated...

NOTICE OF REBELLION AND INSURRECTION
AND DEMAND TO ENFORCE THE LAW

TO: George Walker Bush, President of the United States:

The City of Pinellas Park, Florida in the persons of its Police Department, AND;
the County of Pinellas, Florida in the persons of its Sheriff's Department, AND;
the Judiciary of Florida in the person of Circuit Court Judge George Greer,
are all in criminal violation of Title 18, United States Code, Part One, Chapter 115, Sub-Section 2328

This violation is notorious, blatant and ongoing as outlined below:
---snip---
As a citizen of the United States, I respectfully DEMAND the President of the United States enforce the law immediately by deploying troops with orders to use whatever force is necessary to quell or destroy the rebellious entities named above, capture or kill those in rebellion and save the life of Theresa Marie Schiavo, a Witness under subpoena by the United States Congress, who is presently being starved to death by the aforementioned rebellious criminals.

Sworn this 26 th Day of March, 2005

Harold C. Turner
XXX XXXXX Road
North Bergen, New Jersey 07047

DELIVERED TO AND SERVED UPON THE WHITE HOUSE, 26 March, 2005, 1:50 PM EST

more...

http://www.halturnershow.com/

Padded room time for him.