Are You Sure the Public Knows Shiavo is a "Republican Show"???

Two things that made me go "oh-oh". First was a cut away from local news to one of those 'canned' network reports. The reporter kept referring to this whole freak show as "bipartisan", bringing Repubs and Dems in Congress together on this issue. Then just returned from a gathering this evening. When the anti-Bush crowd began talking about the audacity of the repubs and their swill and using this issue, etc., the love-Bush crowd told us we obviously were uninformed and have not been listening to the reports because "the bleeding heart liberal Dems were the ones that were pushing for all this" (unfuckingbelievable--and they would listen to nothing in response). I bring this up because we've had many posts about how 'billiant' we are to let the repubs hang themselves while we say nothing. I think our leaders better start opening their pie holes. We've had the repukes do shit like this before and then convince the people it was all our fault. Don't be too sure the public who says "it's all political" knows the goddamn difference.

pushing this whole event with their religious nut cases.
They do seem to be trying to pull the Dems into it as well, some guest on Larry King show made the same kind of comments.
The Dems need to watch out for this bull sh*t.

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going to try to pull us down with them.

That's one thing that's pissing me off about this. They're trying so hard to bring the democrats into this when none of us are involved except those who signed the bill. :grr: Watch when this woman dies they'll find SOMEWAY to blame us! ARGH!

...as do the votes the spineless ones cast. It would have become a partisan issue if things were going well for the pigs, but since is is a disaster, they are trying to drag the jellyfish (Dems) down with them. In fact, I recall Frist made a statement today that the Dems were 'helpful' on this issue.

Now, why the fuck would he say that? No way he says that unless he is desperatly looking for cover...and now the media will comply with their apparent request to get this monkey off them.

roll call vote

I'm so depressed. My mother, *my own mother* is brainwashed by this shit. Says she would keep me alive no matter how long it took. When I tried to reason with her, not to mention tell her it's not what I would want, she got angry and said she had to go, she was busy with something.

We talk twice a year on the phone, we are a country apart and she voted for Kerry and hates Bush, but now she's brainwashed by the media.

No one in the media has proposed this poll:

If you were in a PVS for fifteen years, would you want to be kept alive forever?

That's what I asked my mother, and that is when she said, "I can't talk now"

Which just proves very few people care about reality or what any normal person would do in that situation. 15 years. This is a no-brainer. Pun intended.

... but I would write a living will or health directive ASAP if you feel you might fall into the category of having to be in the care of your own mother who disagrees with you.

Also, no matter how old you are or who you live with, you might be wise to write a will at this time. You can then choose a sister, brother, aunt, uncle, etc. as guardian or heir who might help with end of life decisions. These things will change over your lifetime, but no person should die without a living will and a REAL will (or living trust, if you prefer).

Sorry about your mother. Is she a religious person -- perhaps a Catholic? Of course, the answer to the question you posed -- at least for me, my husband and my children -- is NO. None of us would wish to be kept alive forever in this terrifying state of non-being.

In peace, have a good weekend -- I'm hoping Terri Schiavo will go to her Maker this Easter weekend. One woman on TV today said she is not aware of anything (the interview was with a "geriatrician" -- someone who is deeply involved with the dying process -- I think it was on cable news) -- and that dehydration is what will eventually cause her to die. That is because cells cannot survive without fluids.

My mom is an on again off again Catholic. I'm a non practicing radical Catholic who studies scripture daily, and I have been for years. I'm actually a amatuer theologian. Maybe when my kids are off on their own I'll make the attempt to be a real one. My children know what I want, we have discussed this at length. Have not put it in writing but will. Told my mom it won't be her decision to make, but my decision would never be life at any cost. If I can't think, type, express myself because I have no brain, then I don't want to exist in the flesh. On to the next cycle of life for me.

Which as a mother I understand. I would also hope that she is just talking out of pure emotion of the moment, imagining you DEAD and gone right now-and that at this moment is not something she can allow to be even a hint of a reality.

I don't know her or you of course, but I would bet she is more sensible and ultimately compassionate-and would come to her senses and snap out of the hysteria that is gripping the nation and realize not only is it not what you want, it's no way to live and it certainly is not what she or any mother wants as a way to live for her child.

Life at any cost is really not what we are all about. Don't despair.

Common sense isn't a crime-compassion isn't life at any cost-no matter what the RW pundits say!

Something no one has the guts to say-letting go takes courage. Allowing your child to go on brain dead for your own grief is ultimately very, very selfish imo.

boy you nailed it.

that they no longer have much in the way of moral authority.

bankruptcy bill. Bipartisan.

Class action defore. bipartisan.

Bush tax cuts. Bipartisan.

The list goes on....

It's why they lose and will keep losing until they reign in or kick out their turncoats.

here in Kansas who know it is just a show and think it is reprehensible then yes I think many of them know. Both of these guys, who are not internet connected, live in the boonies of red, red Kansas, always voted Republican or never voted at all, know that this is a show and their friends know it is and their ministers know it then I would say we may be OK with this.

first it was "Democrats want her dead" - when nothing popped up to support that - it became "the Democrats are spineless, why don't they have something to say?"


i think many are missing their old faithful enemy. and they're wondering how to bring the Dems out, or make them the enemy in absentia.


too difficult to cope with the fact that the enemy is within.


what psychodrama....

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(I'm lonely.)