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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 11:23 PM
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Know your BFEE: Rev. Sun Myung Moon OWNS Poppy Bush.
Don’t take my word for it. Read The Washington Times. It’s Poppy Bush’s favorite paper, because they pay him so well. Millions, in hundred thousand bills, please.



Even our friends on the right know that.


Porkers

EXCERPT…

Well, if the Heritage foundation says it, we better jump up and down like the trained dogs we are. Did you know The Heritage Foundation has taken funding from The Korean CIA. They welcome Moon's influence. Just like the ENTIRE conservative movement, which has been taken over by religious freaks and fascists.

The party formerly known as "Republican" exists NO MORE.

Moon has one belief, that he is the Messiah. He has one goal, to wrench control of the world.

Put "Bush + Moonies' in your google and read about how the conservatives sold their souls for power to Moon. What a bunch of anti-Jesus frauds. In 1989 US News reported that virtually EVERY conservative group in DC had ties to Moon's organization. Moon literally brags about using The Washington Times to get the chumps to follow him to theo fascist hell, which is where Bush is taking us. Bush IS doing "True Father's" bidding, wittingly or not. No Moon NO Bush. Kinda spooky when you consider Moon said presidents would have to come to him for power. This is true in the republican party, today.

See Jerry Falwell hugging the conservative "savior" Moon here. The conservative leadership sold their souls to Moon and their pod followers have no idea.

Look at this. Can you say HYPOCRITE. That is what conservatives are.

http://www.freedomofmind.com/stevehassan/presskit/articles/parry1.htm

http://www.worldmagblog.com/cgi-bin/mt-comments.cgi?entry_id=194


Sun Myung Moon and the Unification Church

http://www.perkel.com/politics/moonies/


Dark Side of Rev. Moon

http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/moon.html


Gee. He’s using all his money to buy gold and land and what sounds like an enormous jungle redoubt, the kind Ian Fleming’s supervillain likes…


And who else built a jungle redoubt in the virgin Paraguayan Amazon?

WHY HAVEN'T THE BUSH ADMINSTRATION UTOPIAN LUNATICS SCREECHING ABOUT "ISLAMIC TERRORISTS" OPERATING ON THE BRAZILIAN SIDE OF THE TRI-BORDER AREA, SAID DIDDLY ABOUT MOON'S OPERATIONS?


RIO DE JANEIRO, Oct. 23 (EIRNS) — Rev. Moon's cult has been the subject of a multi-agency, federal and state, national security investigation in Brazil, since at least July 2001.
The investigations were undertaken at the initiative of the Army, because the Moon cult was accumulating enormous, contiguous tracts of land on both sides of the Paraguayan and Brazilian border--in an area very near the Triple Border region (where Argentina, Brazil and Paraguay meet), notorious for drug, arms and other contraband.

It was estimated back in 2001, that the Moonies had made a $2 billion dollar investment in building their supposed "Garden of Eden" in the Brazil-Paraguay area. The Brazilian magazine {Isto E} described it in this way in its Feb. 19, 2002 story, "Paradise Under Suspicion":

"A kind of independent territory is being created in silence, in an area between the border of Brazil and Paraguay. It is the tropical paradise of Rev. Sun Myung Moon, formed through a succession of nature preserves, where the rivers Nabilequie, Miranda, Paraguai, Prata, and Salobra cross. In total, the properties add up to 833,000 hectares, which is the equivalent of more than three Luxembourgs, the European Grand-Duchy. In it, would fit the whole Federal District, plus the cities of Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro. If the lands were used for agrarian reform, they would be enough to provide for 41,650 families. Although they are not yet continguous, the lands being acquired are so close to one another that it is impossible to imagine that this is not being done to unify them."

CONTINUED...

http://www.worldmagblog.com/cgi-bin/mt-comments.cgi?entry_id=194


OK. Let’s Play Political Celebrity Blackmail:


Wead in the Rose Garden

Doug Wead, a Bush family advisor and counselor to Dubya, has a history of crass opportunism and the release of the Bush tapes was only the most recent example


Most of Doug Wead's political career has been spent out of the public eye. Except for a failed run for an Arizona congressional seat in the early nineties, he's generally worked behind the scenes, first serving President George H.W. Bush and later, advising George W. He's generally avoided the headlines in the mainstream press. Last month, however, Wead came charging into the hot glare of the media spotlight. When you scratch beneath the surface you find an Assemblies of God minister who divorced his wife, a man involved with pyramid schemes, televangelizing faith-healers and the Rev. Sun Myung Moon's Unification Church.

CONTINUED…

http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?ItemID=18789

Shh. This sort of things leaves you open to blackmail.



Heh heh.

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 11:26 PM
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1. Did the GHWB - Moon alliance start after the Washington Times expose.
That occurred to me as I read the articles. Was this the warning and then tool of influence forcing the BFEE association with Moon? I don't know what sway Moon had prior to the WashTimes scandal piece. Any ideas?
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 11:35 PM
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2. From what I see, the FEDs took it easy on Moon after Reagan in '81.
In 1976, the FBI and CIA led by Mr. Bush did a number on more than a few Democratic congressmen in the ABSCAM sting operation. One guy ensnared for tax evasion was Rev. Moon who went to jail. He opened his newspaper in 1982.

Then there's the other thing.



None of that got out because someone was "acting" president after Mr. Hinckley met Neil.

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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 11:45 PM
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4. Reading the same papers I guess?
Two of the ring's call boys were allegedly KGB operatives, according to a retired general from the Defense Intelligence Agency interviewed by the press. But the evidence seemed to point to a CIA sexual blackmail operation, instead. Spence's entire mansion was covered with hidden microphones, two-way mirrors and video cameras, ever ready to capture the indiscretions of Washington's high, mighty and perverse. The political criteria for proper sexual comportment had long been established in Washington: Any kinkiness goes, so long as you don't get caught. The popular proverb was that the only way a politician could hurt his career was if he were ``caught with a dead woman or a live boy'' in his bed.

Months after the scandal had died down, and a few weeks before he allegedly committed suicide, Spence was asked who had given him the ``key'' to the White House. The Washington Times reported that ``Mr. Spence hinted the tours were arranged by `top level' persons, including Donald Gregg, national security advisor to Vice President Bush''@s1 and later U.S. ambassador to South Korea.

We have already had occasion to examine Don Gregg's role in Iran-Contra, and have observed his curious performance when testifying under oath before congressional committees. Gregg indignantly denied any connection to Spence, yet it is public record that Spence had sponsored a dinner in Gregg's honor in the spring of 1989 at Washington's posh Four Seasons Hotel in Georgetown.

George Bush was less than pleased with the media coverage of the prostitution charges and kept abreast of the scandal as it mushroomed. The Washington Times reported in an article titled ``White House Mute on Call Boy Scandal,'' that ``White House sources confirmed that President Bush has followed the story of the late night visit and Mr. Spence's links to a homosexual prostitution ring under investigation by federal authorities since they were disclosed June 29 in the Washington Times. But top officials will not discuss the story's substance, reportedly even among themselves.
http://www.tarpley.net/bush21.htm
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 12:19 PM
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22. Rev. Moon Owns Dr. Laura, too.
Of all people, and I use that term very loosely...




The Rev. Sun Myung Moon Buys Dr. Laura


EXCERPT...

Dr. Laura Schlessinger, the champion of morality, is going to bed with Sun Myung Moon, the anti-Christian cult leader. Moon is contributing an unknown amount of money to Dr. Laura so she will appear at the Washington Times 20th anniversary celebration on May 21.

SNIP...

Almost one-third of the U.S. Senate and one-third of the U.S. House of Representatives are listed as members of a "Host Committee" to honor Sun Myung Moon on May 21 at the Washington Times 20th anniversary event. The vast majority of members on this Host Committee are Republicans. More than 40 distinguished leaders, most of them conservatives, are also listed as members of the Host Committee.

A representative of the "United States Administration" - the Bush Administration - is listed as a speaker at the event.

Talk about giving the liberals a campaign issue!

Liberals must be salivating at the prospect of making the charge that pro-family conservatives have sold out to a cult leader.
Moon has business dealings that are more convoluted and controversial than those of Enron. One difference is that Moon has been convicted of a crime and Enron CEO Ken Lay has not.
What's more, Moon has a controversial business relationship with North Korea. And the Washington Times has concealed it.
Some members of Congress may have thought they were honoring the Washington Times on its 20th anniversary and that they were scheduled to hear Dr. Laura Schlessinger. Perhaps like them, Dr. Schlessinger thought she was honoring the Washington Times when she accepted an invitation to speak there on the evening of May 21. Like conservatives nationwide, the paper supported her when she came under assault by the militant homosexual lobby. But then she discovered that the paper's founder, Sun Myung Moon, was going to be the keynote speaker, and that she was being asked to "recognize the contribution of the founder" in her remarks. The official invitation to the event shows that her remarks are supposed to precede his speech, providing a photo opportunity so that he can appear on stage with her.

CONTINUED...

http://www.usasurvival.org/moonbyslaura.shtml

How very touching.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 12:15 AM
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10. OK, that's interesting. But why would the WashTimes do this?
Was it some sort of internal turf war. It is just fascinating that this came out and ran for a week. Who was sending a message to whom?
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 01:04 AM
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11. Moon owns Bush. The paper makes that as clear as day.
Moon owns Bush. The paper makes that as clear as day.

IMO: The internal conflict arose in how much to pursue the story. It IS telling that the story came out. However, George Bush follows orders. So do the people in the paper.

The head cheese at the time, IMS, was Arnaud de Borchgrave a CIAwannabe hack if there ever was one. A classy fella who made his point, ran a bunch of stories. Stopped and moved on. The Bush Gang got the point.

What do you think, autorank? Why did they stop pursuing a story that would destroy the Establishment, let alone the BFEE?
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 01:48 AM
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15. Hmmm....autorank is thinking...
Well Paul Rodriguez and George Archibald are the authors of the story and they're still walking around. They probably know the entire story but since I don't run in their crowd, I'll have to speculate.

The date on the story in June 29, 1989. This is before the Gulf War but after the Tienanmen Square uprising. Bush made some remarks encouraging the uprising and may have considered a policy to really rock the boat in China. This would not please those who wanted predictable government policies and sweat shops. In this scenario, the story, run for just a week, was a warning shot, a message to cool down. It came from the one source that could be controlled completely, a source with an inside cover (your comment about de Borchgrave and the CIA). That's just a possible scenario. "Management" wanted to make a point to Bush and company, don't fuck around or this is what you get. This does make sense. Some very large organizations do quite well hiring functionaries who are somewhat capable but posses one or two major flaws, usually of the scandalous kind.

Since the Wash Times is a "house organ" and totally controlled, the fact that this was even investigated, let alone featured, had a very specific and meaningful point for the subjects of the story, the Bush White House.

Intriguing. Someday, hopefully soon, we'll find out.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 11:37 PM
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3. Lookie here George
Better be careful, wouldn't want a follow up story.



http://www.thelawparty.com/FranklinCoverup/WashingtonTimes.htm
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 11:53 PM
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6. LOL! It's in the fine print..."Moon gave NK Nuke Delivery Systems"


SUN MYUNG MOON gave North Korea
NUKE DELIVERY SYSTEMS in 1994.


Sun Myung Moon's Japanese Toen Trading company delivered 12 Russian Golf missile submarines with launch tubes intact. The North Korean communists studied this technology and adapted their missiles to be sea launched from surface and submarine platforms. North Korea now has nuclear weapon strike capability which can reach the continental United States from sea-based mobile launch facilities at distances of 2,500 miles. This website has clickable links to Sun Myung Moon subversion sources, documentation, proof. http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Nukes.html

LINKS -- NK sea-missile capability: http://www.navyseals.com http://www.janes.com http://www.reuters.co.uk http://news.bbc.co.uk http://www.washingtontimes.com http://www.newscientist.com http://www.townhall.com http://www.freerepublic.com http://www.libertyforum.org http://www.theage.com.au http://www.iht.com http://www.latimes.com

LINKS -- North Korean-born Sun Myung Moon's Toen Trading Submarine Subversion: http://www.freerepublic.com http://www.usasurvival.org http://www.gorenfeld.net http://www.davidicke.net http://blog.mmadsen.org http://www.kenlayne.com http://www.pandagon.net http://jameswagner.com http://functionalambivalent.typepad.com http://www.la-mancha.net http://windsofchange.net http://thoughtcrimes.org http://www.vuw.ac.nz

CONTINUED...

http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Nukes.html



This is some serious must-see stuff.

http://www.indybay.org/news/2003/03/1579613.php

LOL! Thanks, seemslikeadreamy!
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 11:48 PM
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5. And the dominionists own little boots. Perhaps there'll be a turf war
Edited on Fri Mar-25-05 11:49 PM by glitch
sweet. couldn't happen to a nicer family.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 12:03 AM
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8. Wow! I hadn't even thought of that! ROFLMFAOACAIATST.
... And Crying About It At The Same Time. LOL! Sweet.

BUSH & HITLER: IN GOD WE TRUST

Posted By: TruthPassion <Send E-Mail>
Date: Saturday, 4 September 2004, 2:15 a.m.

Christian Dominionism and Bush's faith in God as he goes to war have disturbed me for some time. If Christian Dominionists have their way, it appears we'll have a theocracy and I really don't like their plans for the US if they get powerful enough.

Having read all I can on the subject, a Christian Dominionist theocracy would be hell. It would be the opposite of being free. And it would also be the opposite of "freedom of religion".

Did anyone ever read Margaret Attwood's "The Handmaid's Tale"? I found it very disturbing years ago, before I knew anything of what I know now. It's about a theocratic government (dictator? I can't remember, but I guess it was a dictatorship) and the enormous suppression of free speech, and indeed the whole life of the people under their rule.

I wouldn't worry so much if he wasn't so connected to Pat Robertson. Read this from "The Despoiling of America".

"It happened quietly, with barely a mention in the media. Only the Washington Post dutifully reported it.<1> And only Kevin Phillips saw its significance in his new book, American Dynasty.<2> On December 24, 2001, Pat Robertson resigned his position as President of the Christian Coalition.

"Behind the scenes religious conservatives were abuzz with excitement. They believed Robertson had stepped down to allow the ascendance of the President of the United States of America to take his rightful place as the head of the true American Holy Christian Church."


You can find the whole article on:

http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/TheDespoilingOfAmerica.htm

CONTINUED...

www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?noframes;read=54922

Heh heh!
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 11:56 PM
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7. ...
:kick:
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 12:12 AM
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9. Thanks, Cleita! Hey! Didjahearbout Moon, Bush and DRUGS?
Edited on Sat Mar-26-05 12:13 AM by Octafish
Everywhere we go around the globe -- Miami Vice to Moscow Freezer -- the biggest house always goes to the main drug dealer.

Moonies accused of involvement in drugs

Europe Intelligence Wire/October 14, 2004

Paraguay -- The Reverend Moon has carved out a section of Paraguay that is twice the size of Luxembourg. Seamus Mirodan went to see it



Reverend Sun Myung Moon, spiritual leader of the Unification Church, self-proclaimed Messiah, multimillionaire and a generous contributor to the US Republican Party, has been showing a strong interest over the last five years in little-known Paraguay at the centre of the South American continent.

Since 1999, Rev Moon has built his personal empire which begins on the marshy banks of the River Paraguay and stretches beyond the hazy, level horizon through 600,000 hectares of arid land - equivalent to more than two Luxembourgs - punctuated by solitary clusters of withered trees and sad bushes which struggle desperately for air.

The scorching sun beats relentlessly on one of Latin America's most desolate zones. It is here in the northern province of Chaco, directly above the GuaranI aquifer, the largest resource of fresh drinking water in the world, where Moon's associates claim he wishes to build an ecological paradise.

Nevertheless, national Senator Domingo Laino sees a different pattern in Moon's acquisitions. "There are two principal branches to Moon's interest in Paraguay," he said, "control of the largest fresh drinking water source in the world and control of the narcotics business", which is so prevalent in this area. "President Lula told me that Brazil took serious measures to curb Moon a few years back as it became evident that he was buying up the border between our two countries," said the senator.

Allegations from local law enforcement officials support this claim. The so-called Dr Montiel, Paraguay's drugs tsar from 1976-89, said: "The fact that they came and bought in Chaco and on both sides of the Brazilian border is very telling. It is an enormously strategic point in both the narcotics and arms trades and indeed the available intelligence clearly shows that the Moon sect is involved in both these enterprises."

CONTINUED...

http://www.rickross.com/reference/unif/unif240.html
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 01:19 AM
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14. When I lived in Brasil, I read in the newspaper about federal agents
Edited on Sat Mar-26-05 01:20 AM by Swamp Rat
raiding Moon's offices, somewhere in Brasil... I was hoping they would find him and lock him away forever.

Messiah Sun Myung Moon is the mortal enemy of humankind.

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 11:34 AM
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20. Your gallery might only be surpassed by your library, Swamp Rat.
For you have a excellent eye and an extraordinary memory.

From the internets:

Moon finds shadow of probes cast over 'Eden'

By Patrice M. Jones
Chicago Tribune foreign correspondent
Published May 12, 2002

RIO DE JANEIRO -- In a region that borders one of the world's great wildlife preserves, Rev. Sun Myung Moon proclaimed after a fishing trip in 1994 that he would build a heavenly haven for his followers.

The Moon organization's sprawling ranch compound in Brazil's vast southwestern interior is several hours from the nearest major city. But much is promised at New Hope Ranch for those making the journey, with a fabled sign at its entrance reading, "Welcome to the Garden of Eden."

However, state legislators, the governor and federal police in the state of Mato Grosso do Sul are investigating the paradise founded by the 82-year-old leader of the Unification Church. The inquiries come, they say, as Moon has acquired more than 1 million acres straddling the border of Brazil and Paraguay over the past seven years.

Last week, federal police raided several sites of Moon's Brazil organization, the Association of Families for Unification and World Peace, both in Mato Grosso do Sul and also in Sao Paulo state. They seized records and computers in a broad investigation into allegations of tax evasion and immigration violations.

Police also targeted the residence and offices of Rev. Kim Yoon Sang, the Brazilian representative for Moon and his religious group. The state legislature of Mato Grosso do Sul also has an ongoing inquiry, as does Brazil's internal revenue service.
Federal police reported that they began investigating Moon's organization late last year after a former employee said the association was involved in money laundering. A federal judge authorized the seizure of banking and financial records earlier this year.

CONTINUED w/lots o' articles 'n' stuff...

http://www.usasurvival.org/mnrd.shtml
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 03:07 PM
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24. That's IT!
But, of course, I read it in a Brazilian newspaper in Portuguese. What caught my eye was the fact Moon had acquired land straddling both boarders, and the Brazilian federal authorities claimed that he was trying to start his own country while controlling the water for the entire South of Brasil... fela da puta! :mad:

Dude, you are amazing! You have archived and/or have access to some of the best articles that cut right to the heart Earth's various predicaments. That said :D I was wondering if you have any articles about the blind trust GHW Bush started (1980?) for GW that has money from the Nazi death camps. It's been a long time since I read about that and my early archives are not organised into folders. x(

Anyway, your posts are very important for the DU community, especially new lurkers who have no idea what the HELL is going on around them, or what really motivates the politicians that rule their lives. Thank you Octafish!

:yourock:

:kick:
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 03:30 PM
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25. William Stamps Farrish III


Before Christmas, 1988, and during other holiday periods, Bush customarily joined his billionaire crony William Stamps Farrish III at his Lazy F Ranch near Beeville, Texas, for the two men's traditional holiday quail hunt. This was the same William Stamps Farrish III whose grandfather, the president of Standard Oil of New Jersey, had financed Heinrich Himmler. William Stamps Farrish III's investment bank in Houston, W.S. Farrish & Co. had at one time managed the personal blind trust into which Bush had placed his personal investment portfolio. Farrish was rich enough to vaunt five addresses: Beeville, Texas; Lane's End Farm in the Versailles, Kentucky bluegrass; Florida, and two others. Farrish's hobby for the past several decades had been the creation of his own top-flight farm for the raising of thoroughbred horses. This was the 3,000 acre Lazy F Ranch, with its ten horse barns, four sumptuous residences, 100 employees, and other improvements. Over the years, Farrish has saddled winners in the 1972 Preakness and the 1987 Belmont Stakes, and bred 80 stakes winners over the past decade. Farrish, who is married to Sarah Sharp, the daughter of a Du Pont heiress, had worked with Bush as an aide during the 1964 senate campaign.

Farrish was rich enough to extend his largesse even to Queen Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom, probably the richest individual in the world. The Queen has visited Farrish's horse farm at least four times over the past few years, travelling by Royal Air Force jetliner to the Blue Grass Airport in Lexington, Kentucky, accompanied by mares which Her Majesty wishes to breed with Farrish's million-dollar prize stallions. Farrish magnanimously waives the usual stud fees for the Queen, resulting in an estimated savings to Her Majesty of some $800,000. Farrish's social circle is rounded out by such plutocrats as Clarence Scharbauer, a fellow member of the horsey set who also happens to own the bank, the hotel, the radio station, oil wells, and an estimated one half of the city of Midland, Texas, the old Bush bastion in the Permian Basin.

Farrish has been described as the Bush regime's counterpart to Bebe Rebozo, Richard Nixon's sleazy crony. According to Bush, when he is watching movies, hunting, and playing tennis with his old friend Farrish, "we talk about issues. He's very up on things, but it's a comfortable thing, not probing beyond what I want to say." Michael York of the Washington Post wrote that "Farish says he'll always be one of Bush's biggest boosters, and he's ready at a moment's notice to make the resume argument in favor of Bush's being the best-prepared man ever to become president. It's also clear that Bush regularly asks Farish's advice on the budget, domestic policy, and politics." With a cabal of friends and advisers like William Stamps Farish III and Henry Kravis, we begin to comprehend the wellsprings of Bush's policies of parasitical looting of infrastructure and the work force.
http://www.tarpley.net/bushb.htm

:hi:
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 03:53 PM
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26. Poppy's bagman Farish quits top London posting
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 04:10 PM
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27. I think this approaches treason
working links here
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1850906


Senator Harry Truman

when investigating the national defense program, as committee chairman told newsmen before Farish testified: "I think this approaches treason. Farish began breaking apart at these hearings. He shouted his "indignation" at the senators, and claimed he was not "disloyal."After the March-April hearings ended, more dirt came gushing out of the Justice Department and the Congress on Farish and Standard Oil. Farish had deceived the US Navy to prevent the Navy from acquiring certain patents, while supplying them to the Nazi war machine; meanwhile he was supplying gasoline and tetraethyl lead to Germany's submarines and air force.
Communications between Standard and I.G. Farben from the outbreak of World War II were released to the Senate, showing that tFarish's organization had arranged to deceive the U.S. government into passing over Nazi-owned assets: They would nominally buy I.G.'s share in certain patents because "in the event of war between ourselves and Germany .. .it would certainly be very undesirable to have this 20 percent Standard-I.G pass to an alien property custodian of the U.S. who might sell it to an unfriendly interest.
In August, Farish was brought back for more testimony. He was now frequently accused of lying. Farish was crushed under the intense, public grilling; he became morose, ashen. While Prescott Bush escaped publicity when the government seized his Nazi banking organization in October, Farish had been nailed. He collapsed and died of a heart attack on November 29, 1942.
The Farish family was devastated by the exposure. Son William Stamps Farish, Jr., a lieutenant in the Army Air Force, was humiliated by the public knowledge that his father was fueling the enemy's aircraft; he died in a training accident in Texas six months later. With this double death the fortune comprising much of Standard Oil's profits from Texas and Nazi Germany was now to be settled upon the little four-year-old grandson, William...overlapping the intelligence and financial worlds-The Bush Farish axis started George Bush's career.

A Senate investigating committee under Senator (later US President Harry Truman of Missouri had called Arnold to testify at hearings on corporations' collaboration with the Nazi. The Senators expressed outrage at the cynical way Farish was continuing an alliance with the Hitler regime that begun back in 1933, when Farish became chief of Jersey Standard. Didn't he know there was a war on?
http://lists.village.virginia.edu/listservs/spoons/wood... ...

lots of interesting info there

When George Bush was elected vice president in 1980, Texas mystery man William Stamps Farish III took over management of all of George Bush's personal wealth in a "blind trust." Known as one of the richest men in Texas, Will Farish keeps his business affairs under the most intense secrecy. Only the source of his immense wealth is known, not its employment. Note #3 Will Farish has long been Bush's closest friend and confidante….
President Bush can count on Farish not to betray the violent secrets surrounding the Bush family money. For Farish's own family fortune was made in the same Hitler project, in a nightmarish partnership with George Bush's father.

On March 25, 1942, U.S. Assistant Attorney General Thurman Arnold announced that William Stamps Farish (grandfather of the President's money manager) had pleaded "no contest" to charges of criminal conspiracy with the Nazis. Farish was the principal manager of a worldwide cartel between Standard Oil Co. of New Jersey and the I.G. Farben concern. The merged enterprise had opened the Auschwitz slave labor camp on June 14, 1940, to produce artificial rubber and gasoline...

---wasn't Thyssens, Prescott's Dutch biz partner, part of the I.G. Farben/Austwitz deal?

interesting, too, that Farish's daughter married one of the Harrimans, the large shareholder in Union Bank, from which Prescott was also enriched, though not to the same degree as Harriman.


US Ambassador to England Inherited "Auschwitz" money (Farish)
If you do not know about William Farish III, there is a reason. The man is VERY private and most Americans have never heard of him. Yet, his power is immense and his fortunes from his grandfather are tied directly to the bushes, as well as the Nazi party.

Unfortunately, only the print edition of the NYT shows his picture standing in the middle of GWB and Prince Charles as an introducer. This is the NYT article related to this most recent incident...

Lost in all the white ties and tails, cavalry parades and antiwar protests of President Bush's trip to London last week was a reticent multimillionaire American racehorse breeder, William S. Farish. His day job is the United States ambassador to Britain, and his credentials include very close ties to the Bush family.

How close? Well, not only did Mr. Farish manage the elder George Bush's blind trusts when he became vice president, but he gave him his springer spaniel, Millie, and Mr. Farish later had her mated at his lush Kentucky horse farm. Among the puppies was Spot, the 13-year-old dog of the current President Bush.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/24/politics/24LETT.html

More importantly, however, is background history of the Farish family. As Prescott Bush escaped penalty for his treason, William Farish, Sr. did not. Here is some background info, but a thorough reading of these Nazi sympathizers is mandatory to understanding what we are up against.

When George Bush was elected Vice President in 1980, Texas mystery man William (`` Will '') Stamps Farish III took over management of all of George Bush's personal wealth in a `` blind trust. '' Known as one of the richest men in Texas, Will Farish keeps his business affairs under the most intense secrecy. Only the source of his immense wealth is known, not its employment.@s3

Will Farish has long been Bush's closest friend and confidante. He is also the unique private host to Britain's Queen Elizabeth II: Farish owns and boards the studs which mate with the Queen's mares. That is her public rationale when she comes to America and stays in Farish's house. It is a vital link in the mind of our Anglophile President.

President Bush can count on Will Farish not to betray the violent secrets surrounding the Bush family money. For Farish's own family fortune was made in the same Hitler project, in a nightmarish partnership with George Bush's father.

Indeed, Farish's (the grandfather), activities in supplying patents to the Nazis while withholding the same patents from US govt, were described by Senator Truman as, `` I think this approaches treason. ''@s1@s7
http://www.tarpley.net/bush3.htm

And the rest is history...

While Prescott Bush escaped publicity when the government seized his Nazi banking organization in October, Farish had been nailed. He collapsed and died of a heart attack on Nov. 29, 1942.

The Farish family was devastated by the exposure. Son William Stamps Farish, Jr., a lieutenant in the Army Air Force, was humiliated by the public knowledge that his father was fueling the enemy's aircraft; he died in a training accident in Texas six months later.@s2@s0

With this double death, the fortune comprising much of Standard Oil's profits from Texas and Nazi Germany was now to be settled upon the little four-year-old grandson, William (`` Will '') Stamps Farish III. Will Farish grew up a recluse, the most secretive multi-millionaire in Texas, with investments of `` that money '' in a multitude of foreign countries, and a host of exotic contacts overlapping the intelligence and financial worlds--particularly in Britain.

http://www.tarpley.net/bush3.htm

JailBush

I posted something about this just a few days ago.

I wasn't familiar with the name Farish until I happened to connect an article in The Guardian with the Unauthorized Biography reference you cited above.

Below is an annotated copy of my post.

* * * * * * * * * *

One of several articles in The Guardian that caught my attention during George W. Bush's historic state visit was "Don't mention the war - stick to horsess" http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,1089033,...

Political editor Michael White wrote, "It is a pretty good bet that the one safe topic of conversation between President George Bush and his immediate neighbours beneath Buckingham Palace's chandeliers will have been horses.

"As guest of honour at last night's state banquet, the president was placed on the right of the Queen, his host and fellow-rancher. That put him within easy chatting distance of the equestrian Princess Anne and the horsey Duke of Edinburgh, who shared the task of looking after Laura Bush with the Prince of Wales, a retired polo player and pro-Palestinian.

"Best to stick to horses then. Among other guests, the scope for pratfalls was barely less extensive. Palace officials placed the golfing Prince Andrew between the non-golfing David Blunkett and the wife of the low-profile US ambassador, William Farish."

It sounds like the author wasn't aware of the Farish connection. His article lists one of the guests as William Farish, US ambassador to London.

Is this the same Farish mentioned in "The Unauthorized Biography of George Bush"?:

http://www.govsux.com/chapter3.htm

"When George Bush was elected Vice President in 1980, Texas mystery man William (`` Will '') Stamps Farish III took over management of all of George Bush's personal wealth in a `` blind trust. '' Known as one of the richest men in Texas, Will Farish keeps his business affairs under the most intense secrecy. Only the source of his immense wealth is known, not its employment.@s3

"Will Farish has long been Bush's closest friend and confidante. He is also the unique private host to Britain's Queen Elizabeth II: Farish owns and boards the studs which mate with the Queen's mares. That is her public rationale when she comes to America and stays in Farish's house. It is a vital link in the mind of our Anglophile President."


According to an article at http://www.tabletnewspaper.com/old%20tablet/vol1iss1/gr... another William Farish was an oil giant and Nazi business partner.

I haven't yet had time to really get a handle on the Farishes, but it sounds like there may be quite a story here. That is, the Farishes may have been discussed in some depth in books and perhaps even on this forum, but it sounds like even The Guardian missed a big story a couple days ago!

* * * * * * * * * *

I really was surprised that The Guardian missed a scoop like this. You'd think their political columnists would be up to date on the Bush clan!


Unknown Known

Yes, this is the same Farish
and thank you for your post. The Farish family has been tight with the bushes going back to Prescott.

And where is the Jewish community? Why are they not screaming that our present US Ambassador to England inherited his money from the bones of their ancestors?

JailBush

Thoroughbred Times

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/todaysnews/newsview.as... ...

Posted: 11/18/2003 8:20:00 PM ET

Farish on hand to introduce President Bush to Prince Charles

Prominent owner and breeder William S. Farish introduced President George Bush and first lady Laura Bush to Prince Charles after Air Force One arrived at London’s Heathrow Airport on Tuesday.

Farish, the United States Ambassador to Great Britain and Northern Ireland, played a key role in arranging President Bush’s trip, according to the Washington Post.

Close ties between Queen Elizabeth II and Farish are, in part, attributed to their shared interest in the racing industry, the Post reports. The queen sends mares to Farish’s Lane’s End near Versailles, Kentucky, and she has visited the farm.

Zan_of_Texas

more
Farish is married to Sarah, originally of Wilmington, Delaware.
Starroute mentioned this at DU on 10-17:
Farish's grandson, William Stamps Farish III, is currently married to a DuPont heiress, great-niece of the DuPonts who tried to overthrow FDR in 1934.

Capn Sunshine

yes, the little mentioned FDR putsch
planned Army takeover; backed by the DuPonts and House of Morgan.
Small world, eh?
great hitorical article on the coup:
http://www.webcom.com/ctka/pr399-fdr.html

Minstrel Boy

good Lord, the DuPonts too?
I used to discount these familial ties, but I think now that's a strategic mistake. When the same names keep coming back, they obviously mean a great deal.



Unknown Known

Please note - William Farish, Jr. died in a "training accident"
The Farish family was devastated by the exposure. Son William Stamps Farish, Jr., a lieutenant in the Army Air Force, was humiliated by the public knowledge that his father was fueling the enemy's aircraft; he died in a training accident in Texas six months later.@s2@s0



starroute

More on Farish

I did some investigation of his family several months ago and found a number of very interesting connections.

Farish's wife is the former Sarah Sharp, daughter of Bayard Sharp (1913-2002), a close friend of George H.W. and Barbara Bush. Bayard's mother was Isabella Mathieu du Pont, whose three brothers successively headed E.I. du Pont de Nemours and Company between 1915 and 1940. They were admirers of Hitler, funded multiple fascist organizations in the US, and were behind the plot to overthrow FDR in 1934.

Farish's mother was Mary Wood, daughter of General Robert E. Wood, who was chairman of the isolationist America First Committee in 1940 and became a prominent figure in the extreme right after World War II. Wood corresponded extensively with Senator Joseph McCarthy and supported many right-wing groups, particularly in Texas. He was also in touch with a group of revisionist historians who were pushing the notion that Roosevelt had sold out to the Soviet Union and that the State Department had deliberately handed China over to the communists.

Farish's aunt, Martha Botts Farish, was married to Edward Harriman Gerry, nephew of Averell Harriman and brother of Elbridge Gerry, who was a partner in Brown Brothers Harriman & Company. That marriage seems to have been a major factor in bringing the Farishes and the Bushes together, although they were already acquainted through the oil industry.

Farish's grandmother, the wife of William Stamps Farish, Sr., was Libbie Botts Rice. That's Botts as in the lawfirm of Baker and Botts, of which her grandfather was a co-founder, and Rice as in Rice University, which in the century since its founding has persistently been tied in with Houston oil interests. (In recent years, Rice was closely entangled with Enron.)

Libbie's sister, Ella Botts Rice, was briefly married to Howard Hughes in the 1920's, just after he had inherited the rights to a drill bit which his father had invented and which was essential to the oil industry. While Hughes was a minor, his assets were controlled by the Rice Board of Directors.
And, for what it's worth, the elder Farish's great-grandmother was the sister of Confederate President Jefferson Davis.
Altogether, a very strange and powerful family.



Unknown Known

Great research! Thanks for this and it explains much...
Especially the Harriman connection and the Botts connection which is the connection to James Baker III. I've often wondered if he isn't related to the bushes in a distant way.
Mind you, and this is a bit off-subject, but not, that these ancestors were all eugenicists, thus the Hitler-connection.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph... ...


“conclude my tenure here and turn my attention to my family and business


Snip from The Times

US Ambassador relinquishes his post to breed racehorses
By Richard Beeston, Diplomatic Editor

THE race was on last night for a highly coveted post in the American diplomatic service, after William Farish, the US Ambassador to Britain, announced that he was stepping down after less than three years in the job.

In an article in The Times today, the envoy says that he decided to “conclude my tenure here and turn my attention to my family and business”.

Mr Farish, a businessman with close ties to the Bush family and a personal friend of the Queen, is expected to return to Kentucky in July where he is a leading racehorse breeder.

More:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,175-1150560,0...



Octafish
Appears the fellah's a BFEE cash cow.


From Harvard to Enron

(Part 6)
by LINDA MINOR

EXCERPT...

In 1980, when George H.W. Bush was elected vice president, he placed his father's family inheritance in a blind trust.
The trust was managed by his old friend and quail hunting partner, William "Stamps" Farish III.

Bush's choice of Farish to manage the family wealth is quite revealing in that it demonstrates that the former president might know exactly where some of his inheritance originated.

Farish's grandfather, William Farish Sr., on March 25th, 1942, pleaded "no contest" to conspiring with Nazi Germany while president of Standard Oil in New Jersey. He was described by Senator Harry Truman in public of approaching "treason" for profiting off the Nazi war machine. Standard Oil, invested millions in IG Farben, which opened a gasoline factory within Auschwitz in 1940.

SOURCE:

http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=1...

Of course, some fleas are bigger than others.

(11/22) Home Cookin'

William S. Farish's PATE MAISON made it two in a row since returning back home to New York, beating a talented an state-bred allowance field of two year-old fillies. Ridden once again by jockey Edgar Prado, the two year-old half-sister to multiple graded-stakes winner Biogio's Rose, stalked the early pace before moving into contention approaching the far turn of the one mile event. Moving past the early leaders, Prado mildly urged his filly for some run at the top of the stretch, before wrapping up and cruised home as much the best.



Bred by Alfred and Joseph Nastasi, Pate Maison is by Polish Numbers, out of the Barachois mare, Fois Gras.

SOURCE:

http://www.nybreds.com/racing/bb_0011.html





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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 05:08 PM
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30. kick
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 01:23 PM
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60. A traitor by any other name...
... still stinks. What was said 2,047 years ago still holds.

"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious, but it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formable, for he is known and carries his banner openly, but the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not as a traitor, he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and garments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared." -- Marcus Tullius Cicero, 42BC


What was said 71 years ago still stands:


The Attempted Coup Against FDR

By Barbara LaMonica

The John F. Kennedy assassination represents a theme in our political history. The causes, even the inevitability, of the assassination were born out of the power struggles among the ruling elite which are consistent throughout the American story. These struggles revolve around questions of what is the proper role of government vis a vis the business community’s pursuit of its own self-interest. Is the government’s role minimal or laissez-faire? Should government only provide a stable environment of "law and order", through increased police powers, conducive to the maximization of profits and the minimization of workers wages and benefits? Or does the government have a higher purpose? Is it responsible for the common good? Is it the one entity capable of implementing justice, equality, and a partial redistribution of wealth through the regulation and taxation of corporations in order to provide a cushion against the more egregious effects of the free market? Should it ensure the worker’s share in the profits they helped to create?

At various times factions of what has become known as "corporate America" have argued over which role of government is ultimately more advantageous to their own ends. Generally speaking, banking and Wall Street favor less government. Retail, light manufacturing and small to medium size corporations are more tolerant of an activist government which might put more money in the hands of their consumers, and protect small businesses against the unfair competitive practices of larger corporations.

The stock market crash of 1929 and the ensuing Great Depression dramatically thrust the question of government’s role to the forefront of American political and corporate life. The election of Franklin Delano Roosevelt represented a revolutionary realignment of political power: the ascendancy of the Democratic party facilitated by new voting coalitions of rural south and industrialized north which dislodged the Republican Party’s nearly seventy-year dominance, signaling the abandonment of laissez-faire economics in favor of state regulation. The losers in this political process coalesced into right-wing Republicanism, and the next sixty years of American history is, in part, the story of their attempt to regain power, reinstitute Lassiez-faire policies, and dismantle the New Deal.1 I would like to suggest that the forces behind the assassination of President Kennedy were born in the furies which the Great Depression unleashed between these competing sectors of American political and economic life.

I believe that in 1934 there was a foreshadowing of the JFK assassination. A conspiracy was uncovered in which right-wing elements of big business, namely the DuPont family and the Morgan banking interests, planned to finance and arm a veteran’s army to march on the White House and hold President Roosevelt captive.2 The conspiracy was reported by two- time Congressional Medal of Honor winner Marine Corps Major General Smedley Darlington Butler. Although the House Committee to Investigate Un-American Activities found his allegations credible, it failed to call major conspirators to testify, and the Committee deleted crucial testimony from its final report to the public. The press relegated the story to the back pages, and discredited those, including Major Butler, who tried to alert the public to the threat against republican government. No prosecutions were forthcoming from the Justice Department, in part because the main witness who would have substantiated Butler’s claims died suddenly from pneumonia at the age of 37. In short, there was a cover-up, maybe worse.

CONTINUED...

http://www.webcom.com/ctka/pr399-fdr.html


What happened five months ago still matters:


A Corrupted Election

Despite what you may have heard, the exit polls were right


By Steve Freeman and Josh Mitteldorf

Recall the Election Day exit polls that suggested John Kerry had won a convincing victory? The media readily dismissed those polls and little has been heard about them since.

Many Americans, however, were suspicious. Although President Bush prevailed by 3 million votes in the official, tallied vote count, exit polls had projected a margin of victory of 5 million votes for Kerry. This unexplained 8 million vote discrepancy between the election night exit polls and the official count should raise a Chinese May Day of red flags.

The U.S. voting system is more vulnerable to manipulation than most Americans realize. Technologies such as electronic voting machines provide no confirmation that votes are counted as cast, and highly partisan election officials have the power to suppress votes and otherwise distort the count.

Exit polls are highly accurate. They remove most of the sources of potential polling error by identifying actual voters and asking them immediately afterward who they had voted for.

The reliability of exit polls is so generally accepted that the Bush administration helped pay for them during recent elections in Georgia, Belarus and Ukraine. Testifying before the House Committee on International Relations Dec. 7, John Tefft, deputy assistant secretary of state for European and Eurasian affairs, explained that the Bush administration funded exit polls because they were one of the "ways that would help to expose large-scale fraud." Tefft pointed to the discrepancy between exit polls and the official vote count to argue that the Nov. 22 Ukraine election was stolen.


CONTINUED...

http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/1970/

Same people, these turds. Traitors.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 04:40 PM
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29. Thanks! I was looking for that website for months... I forgot the name.
I lost some of my links/favs when I changed computers.

This time I'm downloading the book and burning it on CDs to give to people... RWers that are pissed at Bush now. :D

The worm is about to turn.

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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 01:09 AM
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12. You missed one: Unholy Alliance:
Take Rense as you will, this is documented and well researched. Rense is just another site to gather info from.

http://www.rense.com/general20/unholy.htm

The Unholy Alliance -
Christianity & The NWO
Part I


The Bilderbergs.
The Trilateral Commission.
The Council of Foreign Relations.
The Central Intelligence Agency.

Most everyone has heard of these groups and some of the conspiracy theories surrounding them regarding the development of the 'New World Order.'

Now imagine for a moment there is something to this (and there appears to be no lack of documented material justifying these theories). That would mean that at almost every elevated level of business and government, world wide, men and women have infiltrated, become the controlling administrators and are working to effectively control every aspect of the life of the "world citizen."

One aspect of this that has not been properly searched out is the "religious" connection. Surely, given that much of the world is religious, and in the currently reigning SuperPower nation of the U.S., predominantly "Christian," then it would only make sense that these organizations have infiltrated the Church itself and are also actively leading it to into the New World Order as well.

Do the worlds leading Christian evangelicals have ties to these organizations?

Yes they do, and it is thoroughly documented.



Rev. Sun Myung Moon (The Moonies), and
the Unification Church
For those few of you who are not familiar with the Rev. Moon, in the 60s both he and his Unification Church were universally regarded as a dangerous cult. The abuse his followers suffered at the hands of their mind manipulating master is indeed very well established.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 11:31 PM
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48. Reminds me Moon-Brent BOZELL Axis.
Eric Jewel wrote a great overview. That's a heck of a resouce. Thank you and Old Rense for making it possible for us to viddy.

Here's something from it I'd forgotten: Moon ties to Brent Bozell and a bunch of the other paid media whores shilling for the crazy monkey and his BFEE horde:



The Resurrection Of Reverend Moon

Frontline-PBS

EXCERPT...

Narrator: Media analyst Brent Bozell is a member of the AFC national policy board.

Bozell: "If it were to come out that what the AFC is doing is being done at the direction of Reverend Moon, it would lose its fifty chapters overnight. That allegation has been out there since the day that AFC was formed and it hasn't stuck because nobody has come up with the smoking gun that he's done it."

Narrator: But Moon's influence over the AFC is underscored by this 1988 letter FRONTLINE obtained from a source who once worked within the Moon Organization. AFC President Robert Grant, writing to Reverend Moon, thanks him for investing heavily and "helping to bring the AFC into being." Grant concludes by telling Moon, "Without your leadership, vision and the support of your devoted followers, the AFC would not exist."

Narrator: The last time most Americans paid attention to Sun Myung Moon was nearly a decade ago. These are the images many still retain of Moon and the "Moonies," as his followers once called themselves: mass weddings of complete strangers chosen as mates by Moon; flower-peddling in the street; and repeated allegations of mind control and brainwashing.

Parent before Congress: "Who can parents turn to when they realize their children have been innocently enslaved by Moon?"

Young woman at press conference: "Within one weekend I was totally, my mind was totally coerced into leaving home, into leaving my parents, into dropping out of school, into being, thinking that I was working for God."

EXCERPT...

http://www.mediachannel.org/originals/moontranscript.shtml

And a resource whose name seems so 21st century dark ages says Brent Bozell is a member of the American Freedom Coalition, which was funded with $5 million in moon loot.

http://iapprovethismessiah.com/2004/01/more-from-conservative-publisher-sun-m.html

BTW: People don't like Rense because he's "insulted" their own nationality-focus-group-interest-ego-etc. So that's about everybody. Sometimes, it's BS. But there's a lot of signal-to-noise there, more than what the presstitutes dare print or say. And, as you know, anarchy1999, when it comes to getting the Truth, who cares?
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 01:12 AM
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13. Moon does not own Bush, they just have a partnership. That's all.
Many, many business deals.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 02:52 AM
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16. no, he actually is owned . . . but not just by Moon . . .
BushCo is bought and paid for, and there are lots of owners . . . guess they each own a piece of the whole or something . . . Moon is just one of many . . . BushCo is also owned by the fundamentalist Christians, by oil companies, by the Carlyle Group, by Wall Street, by pharmaceutical companies, by arms manufacturers, by Wal Mart, and by who knows how many other corporate and theocratic interests . . . all in all, makes for a mighty right wing kinda stew . . .
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 09:36 AM
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17. Where are the "coronation" pix?
Ya know the ones in the Dirksen Senate Building??? :evilgrin:
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 11:25 AM
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19. Heh heh. One of the great all-time moments in Congressional Corruption.
Rev MOON wears crown and robes in Dirksen Senate Office Building function.


Courtesy of IApproveThisMessiah.com

This is too crazy to make up. Seems plenty of big wigs in government -- not all of whom are conservative nutjobs -- were on hand to make Rev Sun Myung Moon feel "special." He even had a shofar salute. This is not a joke. -- Octafish

Rev. Moon's Curtain Call

By Bill Berkowitz, AlterNet

May 11, 2004

It's practically impossible to keep up with all the projects and conferences, rallies and summits, front groups and businesses, and political machinations involving the Rev. Moon's Unification Church – currently known as the Family Federation for World Peace and Unification. Having recently celebrated his 84th birthday, the Rev. Moon seems rejuvenated and desiring to increase his visibility, while at the same time this master of mixed and often convoluted messages appears to be preparing his final farewell to America. Along the way, however, he is trying to plant the seeds of his political legacy – with help from some powerful political friends.

SNIP...

Moon considers himself to be the True Father, the Messiah, and has stated numerous times that his goal, as Fred Clarkson put it in his book Eternal Hostility, is "an autocratic theocracy to rule the world."

On the evening of March 23, a group of the Rev. Moon's powerful political friends gathered at the Dirksen Senate Office Building in Washington. There, the Reverend presided over a ceremony presenting "Crown of Peace" awards to a number of honored guests. Seven U.S. Congressmen – Democrats Sen. Mark Dayton of Minnesota, Rep. Danny K. Davis of Illinois, Harold E Ford Jr. of Tennessee, Sanford D. Bishop Jr. of Georgia and Republicans Rep. Roscoe G. Bartlett of Maryland, Christopher B. Cannon of Utah, and Curt Weldon of Pennsylvania – received "Ambassadors for Peace" awards.

The Rev. Moon, who was decked out in a campy floor-length cape, was presented with an ornate gold crown and a lifetime achievement award. Introduced by a shofar-blowing rabbi, the Rev. told the star-studded audience – made up of congressional members and a number of religious leaders – that a "new era" had come: "Open your hearts and receive the secrets that Heaven is disclosing in this age through me."

CONTINUED...
http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=18660

DU thread on subject: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1603870
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 02:35 PM
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23. Stunning, eh?
:wtf:

Moon considers himself to be the True Father, the Messiah, and has stated numerous times that his goal, as Fred Clarkson put it in his book Eternal Hostility, is "an autocratic theocracy to rule the world."

WHO is REALLY in charge??? Kinda makes ya wonder... :wtf:
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Radio-Active Donating Member (735 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 08:13 PM
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33. check out this link
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 11:11 PM
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44. Don't forget Amway, and the Saudi Royal Family.
Ca-ching!
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 11:15 AM
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18. Drugs Inc. for one. Killing Liberals, another.
Ex MI6 agent confesses: CIA/MI6 are heroin dealers

On the narco-terrorism of MI6, the CIA and the major drug money laundering banks of the Capitalist states


World Revolution of Economic Communism.

I quote from Dr John Coleman’s published work:

‘In my career as a professional (MI6) intelligence-officer, I had many occasions to access highly classified documents…………..


British banks engaged in this terrible (narcotics) trade are too numerous to mention, but a few of the top ones are:

The British Bank of the Middle East.
Midland Bank.
National and Westminster Bank.
Barclays Bank.
Royal Bank of Canada.
Hong Kong and Shanghai Bank.
(HSBC)
Baring Brothers Bank.’

I quote further:

‘Many of the merchant-banks are up to their hocks in pig-swill drug-trade profits, banks such as Hambros for example, run by Sir Jocelyn Hambro. For a really interesting major study of the Chinese opium-trade, one would need access to India Office in London. I was able to get in there because of my intelligence service and received great assistance from the trustee of the papers of the late Professor Frederick Wells Williamson, which provided much information on the opium-trade carried on by the British East India Company in India and China in the 18th and 19th centuries. If only those papers could be made public, what a storm would burst over the heads of the crowned vipers of Europe. Today the trade has shifted somewhat in that less expensive cocaine has taken over a good part of the North American market. In the 1960's the flood of heroin coming from Hong Kong, Lebanon and Dubai threatened to engulf the United States and Western Europe. When demand outpaced supply there was a switch to cocaine. But now, at the end of 1991, that trend has been reversed; today it is heroin that is back in favour, although it is true that cocaine still enjoys great favour among the poorer-classes.

................

‘Britain has been involved in the China opium-trade for over two centuries. No-one is going to be so foolish as to rock the boat when millions upon millions of dollars flow into the bank-accounts of the British oligarchists and more gold is traded on the Hong Kong gold-market than the combined total traded in London and New York. On 21/10/1999 the Chinese President was given the "Red Carpet Treatment" by Buckingham Palace and he was transported in style, with the queen, in her Guilded Royal Horse-drawn Coach and Rolls Royce Limousine, with very lavish arrangements made to impress and entertain him. Whilst at the same time the British police forcefully-restrained anyone from demonstrating against China's human rights record, so as not to upset him.

Those individuals who fondly imagine they can do some kind of a seal with a minor Chinese or Burmese overlord in the hills of the Golden Triangle apparently have no idea of what is involved. If they had known, they would never have talked about stopping the opium-trade. Such talk reveals little knowledge of the immensity and complexity of China's opium-trade.

British plutocrats, the Russian KGB, the CIA, and U.S. bankers are all in league with China. Could one man stop or even make a small dent in the trade? It would be absurd to imagine it

...................

Banks & Drugs.

How do banks with their great air of respectability fit into the drug-trade with all of its attendant filth? It is a very long and complicated story, which could be the subject of a book on its own. One way in which banks participate is by financing front-companies importing the chemicals needed to process raw-opium into heroin. The Hong Kong and Shanghai Bank (HSBC) with a branch-office in London is right in the middle of such trade through a company called TEJAPAIBUL, which banks with Hong Kong and Shanghai Bank. What does this company do? It imports into Hong Kong most of the chemicals needed in the heroin-refining-process.

..............

It is also a major supplier of acetic anhydride For the Golden Crescent and the Golden Triangle, Pakistan, Turkey and Lebanon.

The actual financing for this trading is hived off to the Bangkok Metropolitan Bank. Thus, the secondary-activities connected with processing opium, while not in the same category as the opium-trade, nevertheless generates substantial income for banks. But the real income of the Hong Kong and Shanghai Bank (HSBC) and indeed all banks in the region is financing the actual opium-trade.

It took a lot of research on my part to link the price of gold to the
price of opium. I used to tell anyone who would listen, "If you want to know the price of gold, find out what the price of a pound or a kilo of opium is in Hong Kong." To my critics I answered, "Take a look at what happened in 1977, a critical year for gold." The Bank of China shocked the gold-pundits, and those clever forecasters who are to be found in great numbers in America, by suddenly and without warning, dumping 80 tons of gold on the market. That depressed the price of gold in a big hurry. All the experts could say was, "We never knew China had that much gold; where could it have come from?" It came from the gold which is paid to China in the Hong Kong Gold Market for large purchases of opium. The current policy of the Chinese government toward England is the same as it was in the 18th and 19th centuries. The Chinese economy, tied to the economy of Hong Kong - and I don't mean television sets, textiles, radios, watches, pirated cassette and video tapes - I mean opium/heroin would take a terrible beating if it were not for the opium-trade it shares with Britain

CONTINUED GOOGLE CACHE...

http://216.239.63.104/search?q=cache:pniTuo97hUMJ:pub55.ezboard.com/fspetzforumfrm10.showMessage%3FtopicID%3D196.topic+sun-myung-moon+%2B+guy-bannister&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

It may not all be pure gold, but it's better than the bushit we get from Corporate McPravda.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 11:41 AM
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21. Don't forget Capitalism's Invisible Army...
Capitalism's Invisible Army

From an article:

Opposition to constitutional democracy is a theological premise of The Divine Principle, the basic text of Unificationism. Moon's speeches are riddled with contempt for "American-style democracy," which he denigrates as "a good nursery for the growth of Communism." "We must have an automatic theocracy to rule the world," Moon has declared.

http://www.fair.org/extra/best-of-extra/washington-time...

Now who else is, um, was rabid anti-communist?



Big can o' worms, there...

Early Days of John Birch Society

EXERPT...

Sutton's approach to conspiracy genera was spliced with the anti-communist venom of Robert Welch and his theory of the "Hegelian Dialectic," the time-tested strategy of left-right tensions. Sutton's racial views were certainly curious for one who wore his patriotism on his sleeve. He was an advocate of separation between the races in South Africa. His passages on the CFR and Illuminati flirt with anti-Semitism and echo the fiercely anti-communist sentiments of Skousen, Ward, Allen, Dan Smoot and other proponents of the fascist right. Sutton, who publishes a newsletter, The Future Technology Intelligence Report, contends that "possible advanced alien technology" has been reverse-engineered and is squandered by the federal government. (The "reverse engineering of ET technology" schtick was whistled up by Phillip Corso in the 1960s. Corso was a charter member, under Charles Willoughby, the aforementioned YAF co-founder, of the Shickshinny Knights of Malta in Pennsylvania, a conspiratorial fraternal order patterned after the military order of the Vatican.)

        Guy Bannister, a Birch Society pamphleteer, was Lee Harvey Oswald's handler at 544 Camp Street in New Orleans. Bannister employed an investigator, Jack S. Martin, a fascist co-conspirator with his boss and Charles Willoughby-Weidenbach (formerly General MacArthur's intelligence chief in Korea), a core strategist in the Kennedy assassination, according to Mae Brussell, Dick Russell and others. Bannister was a drunkard, a former FBI agent and Naval Intelligence officer. He published a racist newsletter. He choreographed the activities of a group of anti-Castro Cubans in New Orleans. He died nine months after the murder of John Kennedy.

     Jim Garrison investigated Oswald's connection to Bannister and CIA pilot David Ferrie. The devout, alcoholic anti-communist had Oswald passing out Fair Play for Cuba flyers on street corners.

     What would Bannister and his fellow Birchers say if they could speak openly, sans the Jeffersonian platitudes and geopolitical shaggy-dog  tales? In a privately-published paper on Charles Willoughby-Weidenbach, "Looking for 'Hate' in all the 'Right' Places," political researcher William Morris McLoughlin can't resist speaking for the Birchers: "We have been sitting on our hands and 'gnawing the rug' since 1945, when, as far as we are concerned, World War III actually began, with the murder of our hero, John Birch in Manchuria, China" The war was waged "entirely by members of various national and international right-wing, militantly extremist groups still united under the auspices and control of the World Anti-Communist League. Its U.S. affiliates include the U.S. Council for World Freedom and the American Security Council, part of the Liberty Lobby, as well as other organizations," including the Birch Society.

     The JBS waged its grass-roots, populist approach to psychological warfare with much scape-goating. In The Radical Right (Random House, 1967), Epstein and Arnold offer that at the 1965 convention of the Christian Crusade, another fascist front, General Walker, "in speaking of the man who killed Lee Harvey Oswald, President Kennedy's assassin, urged his listeners not to forget that Ruby's name was Rubenstein, and they can't change that fact no matter how often they refer to him as Ruby."

CONTINUED...

http://alexconstantine.50megs.com/the_early_days.html
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 04:18 PM
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28. My assessment is that they are longtime partners. They have a symbiotic
relationship that goes back over 40 years. They get antsy with each other every now and then and make moves to pull rank, but they always come back together for their fascist, one world goals.

No coincidence Bush declared a New World Order after the first Gulf War made him popular and Moon's publishing was called New World. The Moonie Times was originally called the New World Times.

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 12:07 PM
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59. Barfs called it "Brave New World Order or something."
Of Friendsters and Foes

The conspiracy art of Mark Lombardi: Crime-fighting tool—or 'just here to help'?


by Lawrence Rinder
December 8th, 2003
The Village Voice



Much is being made lately of the FBI's phone call to the Whitney Museum in the immediate aftermath of the 9-11 attacks requesting access to Mark Lombardi's drawing BCCI, ICIC & FAB (1996-2000). This piece, the last work the artist made before he was found dead in his studio in March 2000, an apparent suicide at age 49, represents the tangled web of power and influence that comprised the largest banking scandal in history—in which an impenetrable network of holding companies, affiliates, subsidiaries, and banks-within-banks laundered billions of dollars while supporting terrorism, arms and drug trafficking, and prostitution. The names of Saddam Hussein and George H.W. Bush, among many other high- and low-profile world figures, are connected by a network of delicate, yet potently insinuating, pencil lines. The FBI agent who called was informed that the work was on view in the museum's galleries, where he was welcome to see it during it during regular museum hours. A visit to the current Mark Lombardi exhibition at the Drawing Center (35 Wooster Street, through December 18) by an affiliate of the Homeland Security Agency has also raised eyebrows in the art world.

The typical response to these incidents has been one of startled indignation: We don't want Big Brother snooping around our museums, galleries, and studios. Yet wafting about these protestations is a hint of relief and even pride. Attention from the feds accomplishes, for some, what so many of us have had trouble doing. It proves that art really matters . . . even to national security! Surrounded by constant reminders of our vulnerability, some may feel, albeit unconsciously, the need for art to do its part and so imagine that Lombardi has arrived just in time to secure the place of the fine arts in the emerging national paradigm of surveillance, paranoia, and control. Unfortunately, or perhaps fortunately, the claims being made for Lombardi's relevance to the war on terror are rather overblown. No one knows if the FBI ever made it to the Whitney, and the Homeland Security guy was not on active duty. In fact, Lombardi's drawings don't reveal that much. According to his own iconographic code, a line with an arrow, for example, simply signifies "influence." So, a series of arrows leading across the BCCI, ICIC & FAB drawing from Bush to Saddam does not necessarily mean that the two were in cahoots, as conspiracy theorists might wish to deduce.

What Lombardi's works tell us is not the specifics of the connections between people, but simply that such connections exist. His drawings play across the surface of scandal and intrigue. This is not the sort of thing America's spies really need. Indeed, as far as tools for unraveling the networks of evil are concerned, they may already have the biggest and best at hand. Under the guidance of John Poindexter, of Iran-Contra fame, the Defense Department developed the Total Information Awareness (TIA) program last year, a vast computerized database that, according to the official TIA website, utilizes "topsight"—a term coined by tech guru David Gelertner—to enable users "to see the whole thing." (TIA's funding was stopped by Congress in September.) What is the "whole thing?" It's the same territory explored by Lombardi: the network of individuals, organizations, deals, transfers, and transactions that constitute the de facto architecture of global power. Unlike Lombardi's beautiful but superficial diagrams, TIA goes wide and deep, providing big-picture scenarios while simultaneously zeroing in on individual players and their possible motives in the emerging global-terror drama.

SNIP...

Curiously, in the last year of his life, Lombardi created a series of works that suggest he was leaning toward a more Platonic conception of the networks his research had uncovered. In these pieces, the pattern of lines resolves clearly into perfect or near perfect spheres. By indicating the existence of a unifying gestalt, Lombardi edges toward the conception of networks articulated by the philosopher and theologist Teilhard de Chardin. Credited by some with conceiving the Internet avant la lettre, Teilhard postulated a kind of global consciousness that he called the Noosphere. Recently, followers of his theories have launched the Global Consciousness Project, a worldwide effort that draws on the Internet's extraordinary capability for synthesizing vast amounts of information drawn from remote locations. Computers worldwide feed into a central database information concerning human behaviors on a massive scale (e.g., strikes, armed conflicts) and attempt to measure a cause-and-effect relation—energetically speaking—among them. Their efforts are intended precisely to discern the kind of background pattern revealed in so many of Lombardi's final works.

CONTINUED...

http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0350,essay,49315,1.html

Now I don't agree with all old Rinder said, particularly the investigative usefulness of Lombardi's art, but Rinder does add insight as to what DU and Bartcop and blm and all the rest of us are doing.

Working together, we can stand up to the BFEE.

Working together, we can connect the dots of criminality the courts aren't paid to touch.

Working together, we can return our United States to a land of law.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 05:16 PM
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31. I luv it, those Fundies and other brainwashed sheep are now finding out
they got rooked by an Ornamental Oriental.


Bwahahahahahaha

Come, we go hang glide Makapuu...winds up.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 10:27 PM
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41. Fundies are going to be furious when they find out...
Thanks for the invitation, Opihimoimoi! May we soon see the day!



Ralph Reed probably has a Swiss chalet near his banks waiting for him, but the rest of them are too dumb to notice what's coming down on them. Here's one example:

HAS REV. SUN MYUNG MOON PURCHASED THE TOP RIGHT-WING EVANGELISTIC LEADERSHIP LOCK-STOCK-BARREL?

Subtitle: Jesus warned us: Counterfeit Tares will grow to maturity at the End of the Age; Unparalleled spiritual deception shall arise, deceiving many; He warned us to separate ourselves from believers who are not truly believers. Too many American Christians have totally ignored these warnings, and are now spiritually blinded beyond belief. But now, we realize many Evangelical leaders are united with top ranks of the Illuminati.


The New World Order is coming! Are you ready? Once you understand what this New World Order really is, and how it is being gradually implemented, you will be able to see it progressing in your daily news!!

SNIP...

Ralph Reed -- Former director of the Christian Coalition and member of the conservative think-tank "Heritage Foundation". "Falwell is not the only evangelical reported to have accepted money from Rev. Moon. Other notable speakers for Moon's organizations and affairs receiving as much as $80,000 to $150,000 have included Ralph Reed, Beverly LaHaye, Gary Bauer, and Robert Schuller." <"Unholy Alliances", Ibid.>

Pat Robertson -- Television Evangelist, Founder of the Christian Broadcasting Network & 700 Club anchor; founder of Operation Blessing; one time Republican Party presidential candidate. National Religious Broadcasters members include Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, Tim LaHaye, Billy Graham, Bill Bright and many others clearly associated with Moon.

CONTINUED...

http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1818.cfm

Man, all those millions who sent these turds billions are going to be mighty pissed.

I'll bring plenty of nachos and our favorite beverages. There's going to be some show...


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Radio-Active Donating Member (735 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 08:12 PM
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32. The Moonies threw a surprise party for Jerry Falwell..
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 10:33 PM
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42. LMAO! They look like such nice criminals, too!
Barfara was going to deliver the keynote adress on stealing social security checks until Dim Smirking Sonny Boy "took" office and now she talks about stealing the whole damn trust fund.



Gosh. It's like the good old days, that one Star Trek,
"A Piece of the Action," except they're real.

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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 08:27 PM
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34. List of Moonie Front Organizations
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 10:56 PM
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43. Wow! That's some list of "not-for-profit" 'n' "faith-based" organizations!
Which in the case of Moon and the BFEE mean money-laundreys.

Thanks, barbaraann! Much obliged!

Hey! Did you hear what Moon does with his connections?


Dark Side of Rev. Moon: Hooking George Bush

By Robert Parry

EXCERPT...

As opening day ticked closer for Moon's Tiempos del Mundo, leading South American newspapers were busy recounting unsavory chapters of Moon's history, including his links with South Korea's feared intelligence service and with violent anti-communist organizations that some commentaries said bordered on neo-fascist.

Indeed, in the early 1980s, amid widespread human rights abuses, Moon had used friendships with the military dictators in Argentina and Uruguay to invest in those two countries. Moon was such a pal of the Argentine generals that he garnered an honorary award for siding with Argentina's junta in the Falklands War.

More recently, Moon has been buying large tracts of agricultural lands in Paraguay. La Nacion reported that Moon had discussed these business ventures with Paraguay's ex-dictator Alfredo Stroessner.

SNIP...

When Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., uncovered more evidence of contra drug trafficking in 1986, The Washington Times denounced him. The newspaper first published articles suggesting that Kerry was on a wasteful political witch hunt. "Kerry's anti-contra efforts extensive, expensive, in vain," announced one Times article.

But when Kerry exposed more and more contra wrongdoing, The Washington Times changed tactics. In 1987, it began intimidating Kerry's staff with front-page accusations that they were obstructing justice. "Kerry staffers damaged FBI probe," declared one Times article. It opened with the assertion that "congressional investigators for Sen. John Kerry severely damaged a federal drug investigation last summer by interfering with a witness while pursuing allegations of drug smuggling by the Nicaraguan resistance , federal law enforcement officials said."


CONTINUED...

http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/moon1.html
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 02:07 AM
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56. You're welcome.
The Moon stuff is so mind-boggling I have to take it a little bit at a time.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 08:51 PM
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35. "The Life and Moonie Times of George HW Bush"
Great stuff, Octafish! A really important subject.

I posted to my blog here Feb 11:

The Life and Moonie Times of George HW Bush

To follow up on yesterday's post, let's consider one of the enduring riddles of the Bush White House call boy scandal (that is, the other Bush White House, and the other call boy): why, of all the media empires to break the story and run with it, often page one and above the fold, was it that of the Unification Church?

The expressed purpose of The Washington Times since Reverend Sun Myung Moon launched it in 1982 has been to provide a conservative Republican voice in the US capital. Paul Weyrich has called it an "antidote" to The Washington Post, its "liberal competitor." (Yeah, me neither.) The unexpressed purpose has been to win for Moon influence over US politicians. Sometimes, the two are in conflict. In fact, to succeed, on occassion they must be.

Perpetual deference makes for a fine doormat, but I've yet to wipe my feet on one of influence. And certainly Moon hasn't shovelled more than a billion dollars down the Times' boiler to have Republican feet, even Bush feet, wiped upon his satin robes.

So I'm wondering (and it's thanks to this discussion generated by yesterday's post): did the Times initially play this story as big as it did in order to win influence over the Bush White House? In other words, Look - we got the goods - what you gonna do about it? The Times said it had the names of Spence's clients, and that they included politicians, as well as military, media and business figures. Blackmail, it's called in impolite circles. This could explain why the scandal was made to go away virtually overnight, the names undisclosed. Because, they did something about it.

"In the early stages of the Reagan Revolution that embraced the Washington Times and Moon's anti-Communist movement, it was embarrassing to be caught at a Moon event," wrote The Gadflyer last year. "Until George H.W. Bush appeared with Moon in 1996, thanking him for a newspaper that 'brings sanity to Washington.'" That was while on an extended trip to South America in Moon's company. A Reuters' story of Nov 25 of that year describes the former president as "full of praise" for Moon at a banquet in Buenos Aires, toasting him as "the man with the vision." (And Moon helped Bush out with his own vision thing, paying him $100,000 for the pleasure of his company.) Bush and Moon then travelled together to Uruguay, "to help him inaugurate a seminary in the capital, Montevideo, to train 4,200 young Japanese women to spread the word of his Church of Unification across Latin America."

Bush praising Moon as "the man with the vision":


And I can't help but wonder about Moon's "enthronement" ceremony last year in the Capitol's Dirksen Building, in which he crowned himself humanity’s "savior, Messiah, Returning Lord and True Parent." The coronation was attended by Representatives Danny Davis (D-Ill.), Curt Weldon (R-Pa.), Roscoe Bartlett (R-Md.) and others. Davis, in white gloves, placed a jeweled crown on the head of the Reverend's wife. Asked later if he thought it unusual, Davis replied "I see people crowned. I go to parades quite a bit … the queen of the homecoming parade, queen of the festival."

Rep. Davis, left, crownbearer:


Moon had better have something on Davis, or else I have no respect for him.

The Saviour of the World, and Mrs:



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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 11:12 PM
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45. MB's Rigorous Intuition -- Yours is the top blog in blogdom.
I won't avert my eyes.



I'll just plagiarize.


Behind the Times: Who Pulls The Strings at Washington's No. 2 Daily?

By Fred Clarkson

The Washington Times, the right-wing daily that bills itself as an alternative to the Washington Post, is owned and influenced by Rev. Sun Myung Moon's Unification Church. But most journalists seem unable or unwilling to consider the political implications of this fact -- despite the role of Washington Times executives in the Koreagate scandal of the 1970s and the Iran-contra scandal today.

Since its inception in 1982, the Washington Times has gained a circulation of about 100,000 and the endorsement of President Ronald Reagan, who reads it every day. Founding editor and publisher James Whelan resigned in July 1984, charging that top Unification Church (UC) officials had taken over the paper in violation of UC guarantees of independence. In 1987, Times editorial page editor William Cheshire and several staff members also resigned over UC interference.

The Washington Times public relations line -- printed as fact in a Time magazine profile (6/15/87) -- maintains that the newspaper is "owned by a group of Korean investors affiliated with the Unification Church." These "investors" -- the Korean-based Tong-II Industries -- do not seem to view the Times as a profit-making venture. Current Times editor-in-chief Arnaud de Borchgrave told the Washington Post (5/6/87) that a Tong-II executive described one of the company's factories as "the logistical tail of the Washington Times." "They are very conscious of the fact that a certain portion of their profit comes to us to meet the subsidy," de Borchgrave said.

SNIP...

Three NWC executives are not only top Unification Church officials, but have also had high-ranking posts in the Korean CIA (KCIA). Sang Kook Han, a "personal assistant" to the KCIA director in the early 1960s, later served as South Korea's ambassador to Norway and Panama. In 1984, Han was installed at the Washington Times, precipitating the resignation of editor James Whelan. Currently senior vice president of New World Communications, Han is described by Whelan as the "de facto publisher" and "inspector general" of the Times.

CONTINUED...

http://www.fair.org/extra/best-of-extra/washington-times.html



BTW: Thanks for the kind words and your dedicated work, Minstrel-San. The fight's just getting started. And I understand what you mean. Davis must've been taped with an underaged he-donkey. Takes a nice photo...
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 08:57 PM
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36. "Heavenly Deception"
Posted to my blog here Feb 14:

Heavenly Deception



There was a thoughtful and rather uncomfortable piece by Bill Moyers that appeared a couple of weeks ago, one I'm sure he never expected to write, entitled "There is No Tomorrow":

One of the biggest changes in politics in my lifetime is that the delusional is no longer marginal. It has come in from the fringe, to sit in the seat of power in the Oval Office and in Congress. For the first time in our history, ideology and theology hold a monopoly of power in Washington.
...
I've reported on these people, following some of them from Texas to the West Bank. They are sincere, serious and polite as they tell you they feel called to help bring the rapture on as fulfillment of biblical prophecy.... The last time I Googled it, the rapture index stood at 144 -- just one point below the critical threshold when the whole thing will blow, the son of God will return, the righteous will enter Heaven and sinners will be condemned to eternal hellfire.


I think Moyers misses something important here, but I can't fault him. When the lights are going out, it's hardest to see the darkest things. And especially hard for someone like Moyers, who's accustomed to reading events by the light of liberal Reason. But while Bush's evangelical base is undoubtedly, for the most part, sincere in its convictions, I believe the Bush White House is no more Christian than it is genuinely conservative. Which is to say, not at all. And the same, I suspect, goes for many of the religious leaders who stump for an agenda which seems cribbed from a comic book version of the Book of Revelations.

In other words, the top-down expressions of apocalyptic, fundamentalist faith represent a screen theology, to deceive the sincerely devout - for instance, that Bush is a "godly man" who holds power by the "will of God" in these "Last Days" - and to mask the true hearts and intentions of the gangster elite. At best, they are hypocrites. And if they are worse than that, then they are much worse.

Many of America's conservative Christians may be surprised to learn their Christian Right isn't so Christian anymore. Over the past 15 years, it's been largely bought, borrowed, compromised and blackmailed by Reverend Sun Myung Moon. And what Moon represents is yet another hub in the fascist/intelligence/criminal nexus of money laundering, drug trafficking and arms dealing we frequently see behind the thinning veil of America.

In my last post I speculated that Moon may have dangled unsavoury details of the White House call boy scandal over the head of George HW Bush in order to gain influence. It's certainly true that, just a few years before, Moon was either an embarrassment or a pariah to Republicans and evangelicals alike. (That was when they were merely alike, and not, effectively, one and the same.) In 1978, Jerry Falwell told Esquire that "Reverend Sun Myung Moon is like the plague: he exploits boys and girls, and he should be exported ." Then, in 1994, one of Moon's many front organizations gifted Falwell's Liberty Baptist University $3.5 million, and otherwise forgave tens of millions of dollars in debt. Falwell's college was saved, by Moon, and surprise: Falwell changed his tune.

Who's Your Daddy? Falwell and Moon:


How does he do it? Where has Moon drawn his billions, to make the empires of Falwell and Pat Robertson look like Virginia Beach sand castles? Investigative reporter Robert Parry asks the same question in last September's "Mysterious Republican Money":

Limited investigations of Moon’s organization have revealed large sums of money flowing into the United States mostly from untraceable accounts in Japan, where Moon had close ties to yakuza gangster Ryoichi Sasakawa. Former Moon associates also have revealed major money flows from shadowy sources in South America, where Moon built relationships with right-wing elements associated with the cocaine trade, including the so-called Cocaine Coup government of Bolivia in the early 1980s.

Allegations of Moon's relationship to the South American drug trade don't stop with the fall of Klaus Barbie's neo-fascist narco-state. Since 1999, Moon has acquired 600,000 hectares of arid land in Paraguay's northern state of Chaco, bordering Brazil, directly above the world's largest aquifer. Senator Domingo Laino claims that Moon intends to control his nation's narcotics trafficking, as well as the "largest fresh drinking water source in the world."

Paraguay's drugs tsar from 1976-89, Dr Montiel, has said:

The fact that they came and bought in Chaco and on both sides of the Brazilian border is very telling. It is an enormously strategic point in both the narcotics and arms trades and indeed the available intelligence clearly shows that the Moon sect is involved in both these enterprises.

If that's not bad enough, Iran-Contra vet Elliot Abrams - Bush's new "Deputy National Security Adviser for global democracy strategy" - is also deep in Moon's pocket. Abrams spoke at three Moon rallies in 1998, including one in Sao Paolo, Brazil, attacking anti-cult "deprogrammers" and those who hire them to rescue their family members from the Unification Church. According to Abrams - about whom we're expected to believe this matters - it's simply an issue of "religious freedom."

While Moon is a large, and largely hidden, part of the story of the corruption of religion for criminal and covert ends, the story neither begins nor ends with him. There are many examples on the spooky side of life, that demonstrate that evangelical Christianity has been penetrated and exploited by intelligence assets, and that what may sound like a profession of faith may be nothing more a cover story, and a joke at the expense of the faithfully deceived.

Michael Meiring, the Davao City bomber sheltered by US authorities from Philippine justice, confided to acquaintances in Mindanao that he was CIA, but winked that it stood for "Christ in action."

Wally Hilliard, the money man behind the two Florida flight schools which trained the 9/11 pilots, is an avowed evangelical who's former insurance firm in Wisconsin boasted the motto "Hate Sin, Fight Communism, and Back the Pack!" Forty-three pounds of heroin was found on Wally's Lear Jet, just three weeks after Mohammed Atta enrolled; the largest seizure ever in Central Florida. His plane had made dozens of round trips to Venezuela with passengers who always paid cash, and that the plane had been supplied to Hilliard by the same drug smugglers who had outfitted CIA drug smuggler Barry Seal's. Hilliard and his pilot were not charged. The heroin seizure plays like one of those instances in which the DEA gets its wires crossed with the black ops boys. (Daniel Hopsicker tells more, in his Welcome to Terrorland.)

Interestingly, Hilliard is yet another "devout" figure who has bailed out Jerry Falwell, having loaned, and forgiven, the Reverend one million dollars. Shortly after, another curious thing happened: Britannia Aviation was awarded a five-year contract to manage a large maintenance facility at the Lynchburg airport. It was chosen over a seasoned local company worth millions, when it had a book value of only $750, virtually no qualifications, employees or history. Britannia didn't even have the necessary FAA license to fulfill the contract. What it had, however, was Wally Hilliard's hanger at the Venice, Florida flight school, and according to a Drug Enforcement Agency source, a "greenlight" to operate by the DEA. Hopsicker's research suggests Brittania may have been used as part of the protected black ops drug trade, which was much in evidence in Venice.

Indeed, it seems as though there are many interested parties who have bailed out the Reverend Falwell. Hopsicker writes:

"Jerry Falwell got bailed out in the early '90's by a Lynchburg businessman whose son is married to Billy Graham's daughter," a Lynchburg observer told us. "Since then he runs a missionary service called World Help, which flies all over the world."

Many of the flight trainers who had trained the Arab terrorist pilots had also flown missions out of the Venice and Sarasota Florida Airports for such Christian missionary services as televangelist Pat Robertson's Operation Blessing.

It was "Islamic fundamentalist" Osama bin laden who cloaked his covert activities under the cover of religious charities. Were we now discovering that our own government intelligence agencies used the same ruse?

Christian-linked or not, why did a transparent dummy front company like Paul Marten's Britannia Aviation have a 'green light' from the DEA? A green light for what?

Gerard Colby's and Charlotte Dennett's massive work, Thy Will Be Done: Nelson Rockefeller and Evangelism in the Age of Oil, painfully details how the missionaries of the Summer Institute of Linguistics (SIL), also known as Wycliffe Bible Translators, served as proxy soldiers in the CIA's Amazonian genocide.

From a review by Carmelo Ruiz:

The authors found SIL a veritable empire whose missionary activities spanned every country in the Amazon basin, with a network of bases that look more like picket-fenced American suburbia than the frontier outposts for the global economy that they actually are. SIL even has its own air force and communications system, the Jungle Aviation and Radio Service (JAARS), which permits it to act virtually independently from the governments of the countries where it operates. After years of research, Colby and Dennett found a number of irrefutable links between SIL and US counterinsurgency operations. Among these, SIL agressively denied that the native peoples of Brazil and Guatemala were being slaughtered by the military regimes of their countries; it allowed its base in the Ecuadoran Amazon to be used by Green Berets who were combing the Western Amazon for signs of armed insurgency; and it assisted the Peruvian air force, which had napalmed the Mayoruna and Campa Indians.
...
In the course of their investigation, the authors learned that SIL had a big debt to institutions and individuals associated with the Rockefeller family.... Colby and Dennett found the Rockefeller connection particularly intriguing, and went on to investigate the Rockefeller family's financial interests in the commercial and industrial development of the Brazilian Amazon. In 1941, Nelson Rockefeller was named by president Roosevelt to the post of coordinator of the Office of Interamerican Affairs (CIAA), which ran intelligence and propaganda operations against the Nazis in Latin America. In one of its many flagrant violations of the separation between church and state, SIL assisted the CIAA in its Intensive Language Program for American and Latin American military officers and gathered intelligence on native peoples. As coordinator of the CIAA, Nelson acquired invaluable information about Latin America's untapped natural resources, especially mineral reserves, information that ended up in his files and which he used after the war, when he formed the International Basic Economy Corporation (IBEC). This company became a key component in the post-World War Two opening of the Amazon rainforest to commercial exploitation, a process that eventually led to military dictatorships, genocide of native peoples, loss of biological diversity and unprecedented misery for the majority of Brazilians.

The Rockefeller-led effort to conquer the Amazon and exploit its natural riches had been made possible in no small measure by SIL's missionary activities. Colby and Dennett found a historic parallel in John D. Rockefeller, Sr.'s support for Christian missionaries in the American west, who were compiling extremely useful information on Native American communities, which were potential sources of opposition to the entrance of Standard Oil into their lands.' As a bonus, the evangelization process weakened the American Indians' social structure and so undermined their resolve to fight for their rights. The authors quote Baptist reverend Frederick Gates, who for many years was John D. Sr.'s right-hand man, as saying that "We are only in the very dawn of commerce, and we owe that dawn to the channels opened up by Christian missionaries.... The effect of the missionary enterprise of the English speaking peoples will be to bring them the peaceful conquest of the world."


John W. Hinkley Sr, the father of Ronald Reagan's would-be assassin, was president of the board for World Vision. World Vision served, in the words of John Judge's words, as a "penetration force" for the CIA. (The Hinkleys and the Bushes had known each other for decades. In the sixties, when Hinkley's oil company was failing, it was bailed out by Bush's Zapata Oil.) World Vision was financed during the Vietnam War by the Agency and given the use of military equipment. According to Judge, the mission ran the Cuban and Thai refugee camps in the United States. Reportedly there were beatings and abuses, and the camps were staffed by Alpha 66 and Omega 7 people, the virulently anti-Castro assets, who were looking for like-minded anti-communists to recruit for intelligence gathering and counter-insurgency. And as if we haven't had enough already, here's another kick in the head: Mark David Chapman, who eventually shot John Lennon, worked at World Vision's Thai refugee camps in Arkansas. (That both Hinkley and Chapman were fixated upon Catcher in the Rye has suggested to some that the book was used as a trigger for "Manchurian"-like assassin mind control programming.)

And speaking of mind control, survivor Kathleen Sullivan told the late Jim Keith in his book Mass Control: Engineering Human Consciousness, that she heard of plans to use Christian evangelists to push belief in the "tribulation" and the "Last Days" as one means of achieving social mastery.

That would sound like a flight of fantasy, if only this were a different world.


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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 09:07 PM
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38. Hey where have you been?


We've been waiting for you.

:hi:
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 09:12 PM
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39. whoops, sorry Mr Saviour - wrong room.
I'm looking for the Lowenstein bat mitzvah. :party:
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 09:31 PM
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40. That party is over here MB, Octafish been puttin' down
He may need a ride home.



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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 12:05 AM
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52. Designated Driver.
And when he's not sober, he's a Deputy.



LMAO! Great photos, ALL!





Figure 2.  The marking on the tail-fin of the Rouen disk (left) in the original image and (right) stretched horizontally by a factor of 2.5.  This approximates to how it would appear if it were viewed directly from the side.  What is this insignia?

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mjpowell/Rouen/Rouen.htm

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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 10:22 AM
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65. Woke up this morning with light in my eyes


Mr. Spaceman

Woke up this morning with light in my eyes
And then realized it was still dark outside
It was a light coming down from the sky
I don't know who or why

Must be those strangers that come every night
Those saucer shaped lights put people uptight
Leave blue-green footprints that glow in the dark
I hope they get home all right


Hey, Mr. Spaceman
Won't you please take me along
I won't do anything wrong
Hey, Mr. Spaceman
Won't you please take me along for a ride

Woke up this morning, I was feeling quite weird
Had flies in my beard, my toothpaste was smeared
Over my window, they'd written my name
Said, so long, we'll see you again

The Byrds
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 11:51 PM
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51. A "Screen Theology" is Right.
You're a heck of a scribe, JW!

Many of America's conservative Christians may be surprised to learn their Christian Right isn't so Christian anymore. Over the past 15 years, it's been largely bought, borrowed, compromised and blackmailed by Reverend Sun Myung Moon. And what Moon represents is yet another hub in the fascist/intelligence/criminal nexus of money laundering, drug trafficking and arms dealing we frequently see behind the thinning veil of America.

SNIP...

ohn W. Hinkley Sr, the father of Ronald Reagan's would-be assassin, was president of the board for World Vision. World Vision served, in the words of John Judge's words, as a "penetration force" for the CIA. (The Hinkleys and the Bushes had known each other for decades. In the sixties, when Hinkley's oil company was failing, it was bailed out by Bush's Zapata Oil.) World Vision was financed during the Vietnam War by the Agency and given the use of military equipment. According to Judge, the mission ran the Cuban and Thai refugee camps in the United States. Reportedly there were beatings and abuses, and the camps were staffed by Alpha 66 and Omega 7 people, the virulently anti-Castro assets, who were looking for like-minded anti-communists to recruit for intelligence gathering and counter-insurgency. And as if we haven't had enough already, here's another kick in the head: Mark David Chapman, who eventually shot John Lennon, worked at World Vision's Thai refugee camps in Arkansas. (That both Hinkley and Chapman were fixated upon Catcher in the Rye has suggested to some that the book was used as a trigger for "Manchurian"-like assassin mind control programming.)

CONTINUED... in post 36.

Viddy well, oh my Droogies. Viddy well.

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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 09:02 PM
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37. "Full Moon"
Posted to my blog here Feb 16:

Full Moon

Since Jeff Gannon reminded us of Craig Spence, who got us thinking about George HW Bush and Reverend Moon, and then Moon's place of privilege in the parapolitical world, I was interested to see this today on Democratic Underground, which seems to close the circle.

Bobby Eberle is President and CEO of GOPUSA, "a privately-held corporation dedicated to promoting the conservative political philosophy through the distribution of conservative news, information, and commentary via the Internet and special events." Both "gopusa.com" and Gannon's "talonnews.com" are registered in Eberle's name, and TalonNews stories consisted of brief introductory paragraphs, with a link "to read more" which redirected visitors to gopusa.com.

There's an interesting thing about Eberle's online bio, apart from the fact it's no longer online. (Here's its Google cache.) Eberle's opinion pieces, so it says, "have been featured in the Washington Times, Human Events, Insight Magazine, and numerous newspapers across the country." How significant is it that all three listed are Moonie publications? Hard to tell, perhaps, without a list of the "numerous newspapers." But it makes me wonder about the provenance of "GOPUSA," and just who was running a male prostitute in the White House.

And another thing I learned from that DU post: Moon is waging a campaign to persuade American churches to trade the symbolism of a cross for a crown. (A cross is just so, you know, yesterday's Messiah.) Something he probably doesn't include in the ecumenical pitch: the crown represents his own.

As bizarre as it sounds, it's finding success. Here's some indication, from April 2003, and the Unification Church publication True Parent. (And who do you think that might be?)

A truly profound moment in history has occurred. 123 clergy took down their crosses over the Easter weekend. This was supported by another 135 clergy who attended services participating and in accord with this dispensation. All told, 258 clergy directly affirmed the taking down of the cross proclaiming an end the era of bloodshed and sacrifice and the beginning of a new era of faith and resurrection.

The desire of God for the second Israel is now being realized. Christian pastors are uniting with the Lord of the Second Advent and taking down the cross. They are embracing the blessing and coming forward to build the Kingdom of God on Earth. These pastors are standing on the foundation of direct experience with Father during the 50 state tour and the profound leadership he has given to the ACLC through the Blessing of Marriage movement and the courageous public proclamation of the revelations of Jesus and saints from the spirit world which confirm that True Parents are the ones anointed by Jesus to fulfill the second coming.


(For my own paranoid reasons, which I hope need no explanation, I won't live-link to the church. But cut and paste tparents.org/UNews/Unws0304/ and you're off and running. Just don't look behind you.)

Two scenes, from 123 "taking down the cross" ceremonies:



"In response to Rev. Moon's teachings on the cross, Rev. John
Kingara takes down the cross at the Worldwide Greater Mission
Church in Worchester, MA on Good Friday, April 18, 2003 as
members of his congregation look on."




"In response to Rev. Moon's teachings on the cross, Bishop C.
Phillip Johnson and members of the New Prospect Family Praise
and Worship Center in Washington, DC, take down their cross
on Good Friday, April 18, 2003."


Interesting, maybe. Disturbing, probably. But so what?

Do you recall the initial ban on the display of crosses for the Bush/Cheney 2005 inauguration parade? Under pressure from Christian activists - apparently of the non-Moonified variety - the Secret Service rescinded the ban. Rev. Patrick Mahoney, the director of the Christian Defense Coalition, called the decision welcome, but added "the original ban was troubling because 'Christianity's most sacred symbol has been singled out as the only religious item prohibited' in the initial regulations."

Perhaps we ought to rethink the rationale for the ban. Could it have been a sop to Moon, one of the Bush family's dearest paymasters, and the figure overshadowing America's "Christian" Right?

Also, if we have the stomach for it, perhaps we should revisit the redecoration of the Lincoln bedroom. Remember? Here's Sidney Blumenthal, writing last Oct 14:

Even now, the White House is being redecorated for President Bush's second term -- or at least one room, the Lincoln Bedroom. The famous long bed will remain; so will the original Emancipation Proclamation in its glass case. But dominating the room, above the bed, will be a large carved crown from which will flow, ceiling to floor, royal purple satin drapes. The crown has been sent to be gilded with gold in anticipation of Bush's triumphant return from his campaign.

Well, perhaps not. Perhaps the crown actually belongs to another.


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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 11:44 PM
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50. Moon's twisted, all right. Here's Watts, the antidote.
It would probably blow his mind to hear Alan Watts talk about "It" and "Who You Really Are." LOL!



The Nature Of Consciousness

by Alan Watts

I find it a little difficult to say what the subject matter of this seminar is going to be, because it's too fundamental to give it a title. I'm going to talk about what there is. Now, the first thing, though, that we have to do is to get our perspectives with some background about the basic ideas that, as Westerners living today in the United States, influence our everyday common sense, our fundamental notions about what life is about. And there are historical origins for this, which influence us more strongly than most people realize. Ideas of the world which are built into the very nature of the language we use, and of our ideas of logic, and of what makes sense altogether.

And these basic ideas I call myth, not using the word 'myth' to mean simply something untrue, but to use the word 'myth' in a more powerful sense. A myth is an image in terms of which we try to make sense of the world. Now, for example, a myth in a way is a metaphore. If you want to explain electricity to someone who doesn't know anything about electricity, you say, well, you talk about an electric current. Now, the word 'current' is borrowed from rivers. It's borrowed from hydrolics, and so you explain electricity in terms of water. Now, electricity is not water, it behaves actually in a different way, but there are some ways in which the behavior of water is like the behavior of electricty, and so you explain it in terms of water. Or if you're an astronomer, and you want to explain to people what you mean by an expanding universe and curved space, you say, 'well, it's as if you have a black balloon, and there are white dots on the black balloon, and those dots represent galaxies, and as you blow the balloon up, uniformly all of them grow farther and farther apart. But you're using an analogy--the universe is not actually a black balloon with white dots on it.

So in the same way, we use these sort of images to try and make sense of the world, and we at present are living under the influence of two very powerful images, which are, in the present state of scientific knowledge, inadequate, and one of the major problems today are to find an adequate, satisfying image of the world. Well that's what I'm going to talk about. And I'm going to go further than that, not only what image of the world to have, but how we can get our sensations and our feelings in accordance with the most sensible image of the world that we can manage to conceive.

All right, now--the two images which we have been working under for 2000 years and maybe more are what I would call two models of the universe, and the first is called the ceramic model, and the second the fully automatic model. The ceramic model of the universe is based on the book of Genesis, from which Judaism, Islam, and Christianity derive their basic picture of the world. And the image of the world in the book of Genesis is that the world is an artifact. It is made, as a potter takes clay and forms pots out of it, or as a carpenter takes wood and makes tables and chairs out of it. Don't forget Jesus is the son of a carpenter. And also the son of God. So the image of God and of the world is based on the idea of God as a technician, potter, carpenter, architect, who has in mind a plan, and who fashions the universe in accordance with that plan.

So basic to this image of the world is the notion, you see, that the world consists of stuff, basically. Primoridial matter, substance, stuff. As parts are made of clay. Now clay by itself has no intelligence. Clay does not of itself become a pot, although a good potter may think otherwise. Because if you were a really good potter, you don't impose your will on the clay, you ask any given lump of clay what it wants to become, and you help it to do that. And then you become a genious. But the ordinary idea I'm talking about is that simply clay is unintelligent; it's just stuff, and the potter imposes his will on it, and makes it become whatever he wants.

CONTINUED 25 PAGES MEBBE MORE OR LESS...PURE GOLD...

http://deoxy.org/w_nature.htm

PS: The purple curtains and crown in the Lincoln Bedroom sound perfect for a Bush Republic: Gott mit Uns. God Chooses Kings. Heil Bushler. Pay the Lord.




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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 10:43 PM
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64. Holy shit
I think you are on to something there, MB. The Lincoln br crown always seemed inexplicable but this may be the reason.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 11:16 PM
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46. Why isn't Dean screaming this from the rooftops?
Let's get some accusations swirling. All the proof is here. If the whore press won't do it, that's what Dean is for. EXPOSE!
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 12:24 AM
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53. The Doctor's the perfect guy to do it, too.
I agree with you totally. It's going to take someone who's super-smart and straight-as-an-arrow to lay the cards down on the BFEE. And what this Bush-Moon-NAZI axis means is dynamite. Let's make sure when the fuse is lit, we Democrats are as far away as possible.



Remember during Selection 2004, when a chain of TV stations decided to smear Kerry, days before the election:

Sinclair Broadcasting and the New Project Mockingbird

October 17, 2004

Sinclair Broadcast Group, which plans to air a CIA-agit-prop-style documentary called “Stolen Honor: Wounds that never heal” which is highly critical of John Kerry’s anti-war activities, should be regarded as part of a shadow government operation running a psychological covert action against the American people.

Sinclair plans to air the program October 22 at 8pm, a week and a half before the November 2 election. Sixty-two Sinclair affiliates including a dozen in the battleground states of Ohio, Florida, Iowa and Wisconsin, plan to air the 42-minute long negative campaign ad for George W. Bush in the form of a documentary.

The airing of the documentary to nearly a quarter of all TV markets in the U.S. represents tens of millions of dollars in in-kind campaign donations to the Bush coffers. It is one of the most blatant and illegal uses of the people’s airwaves in U.S. history and another signal that the return of Cold War-era-style covert operations are being unleashed on the American people.

The so-called "documentary" resembles standard U.S. government agitation propaganda films of the 1950s and the usual spooky suspects are involved in its making and showing. Carlton Sherwood, a former Washington Times reporter produced the video. The Washington Times founder is the bizarre cult leader Rev. Sun Myung Moon, who runs a secretive far-flung financial empire with close ties to the Bush family and the South Korean CIA.

In 1992, a PBS Frontline investigation reported that a key money source for Moon's religious cult was the self-proclaimed "World's Richest Fascist," Ryoichi Sasakawa, the man who brought Mussolini's fascism to Japan priot to World War II.

Moon's influence in the United States increased dramatically when then-Vice President George Herbert Walker Bush, former CIA director, invited Moon to be his guest at the Reagan inauguration. Among other things, Moon has said that he arranged for Jesus to enter heaven by marrying him to a dead South Korean woman. More importantly, Moon's eccentric claims overshadow his connections to the Bush family.

CONTINUED...

http://www.freepress.org/columns/display/3/2004/966

Of course, with the 24/7 360-degree full-volume coverage of the Smear Boat Liars, this story may've been overlooked by Corporate McPravda. We DEMs will not forget. About it or the rest of the stuff.

Thanks for the great suffestions, jazzjunkysue! Dean knows. And when he drops the bomb, it'll be a doozy.
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chlamor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 11:31 PM
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47. In a Word
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 12:34 AM
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54. Art reflects the sold, er, soul of the community.
Really love that work. Incredible. 1 pic =1K words.

Speaking of religious pyramid schemes...Do you know Amway?



Bush + Republicans + Amway = Fraud

Amway, Republicans & That Old Time Religion


Eric Scheibeler's book new, Merchants of Deception,* is a first hand account of the author’s recruitment into the Amway cult, his rapid advancement as a recruiter of others, and his final awakening after many years of mind-dulling dedication to the cult ideology. The book evidences Eric's deep personal resolve to try and stop what happened to him from happening to others.

For decades, Amway has used its political clout within the extreme Right Wing of the Republican party to gain access to foreign markets, obtain special tax breaks, and most importantly, to retain immunity from prosecution for pyramid scheme fraud. The giant MLM is able to generates funds all over the globe, simply by using some of those funds to buy protection against regulation and oversight. It has unprecedented influence with the current White House. But worst of all, it has the reach and ability to recruit, manipulate, and misinform millions of new people each year.

The Amway Snow Job - How It Works

Over the past 20 years, more than 10 million Americans have been lured into the trap of investing vast amounts of time and money in Amway’s pyramid sales scheme. And each new recruit was subjected to its radical conservative propaganda campaign as a key component of the motivational training that their up-line recruiters insisted they must have in order to be successful with Amway.

To that end, millions of Amway audiotapes, CDs and videos are sold each year. The main message they expound is that success is achieved by emulating the Amway beliefs and values, characterized by political conservatism, disdain for the poor, extreme distrust of government social programs, and adherence to the rules of right-wing Christianity.

SNIP...

The Bush Family & Religious Heathens

Several members of the media have looked into the relationship between the two Bush Presidencies and members of the extreme Religious Right Wing. After reading up on that gang, the only thing I know for sure, is that there is not a single honest person in the whole bunch.

First off, lets take a look at evangelist Doug Wead, a divorced Baptist Minister, and former Diamond distributer, who is still a regular speaker at Amway conventions.

Wead was the first President Bush's liaison to the Christian Right and he later served as Special Assistant to the President in the first Bush White House. Time magazine referred to him as "the man who coined the phrase the compassionate conservative."

He was linked to the second President Bush early on as well. US News and World Report described Wead as an "old friend and advisor" to George W Bush. In the book, First Son, Author and Dallas Morning News Reporter, Bill Mintuglio, said that Wead was a man who had spent years "preparing strategy reports" for both President Bush and GW.

CONTINUED...and it hasn't got to how Amway and the DeVos volk do their number on the Untermenschen...

http://thomasmc.com/1213ep.htm
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chlamor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 09:22 PM
Response to Reply #54
63. Kick
It Matters
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 11:32 PM
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49. We've got flow charts on the BFEE but no one does a fucking thing.
It's sickening, yet the high crimes and misdemeanors continue.
And then there are the dead journalists and whistleblowers, and the intimidated into silence folks.
It's a "long hard slog" documenting these RW crimes and connections and keeping them in the crosshairs of awareness.
But somebody's got to do it.
These fuckers have names.
I'm done venting now.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 12:49 AM
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55. Bush Transnational Criminal Enterprise
These people OWN the world. Through war, petroleum and narcotics, these people pretty much own the world. As they are lower than whale turds, they use religion, psychology, mind-control, bribery, murder, treason and everything else to gain and stay in power. They are the Military-Industrial-Intelligence Wall Street Machine & Complex Mafia NAZI KKK Big Oil Octopus. And getting this Bush-Moon-NAZI axis stuff represents the smallest of things, but it can still hurt the most -- the Truth. And it's Eternal.

Speaking of dead whistleblowers:



Detail: "George W. Bush, Harken Energy and Jackson Stephens" by Mark Lombardi, ca. 1979-90, 5th Version, 1999.

PS: Please vent anytime, bobthedrummer!
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:15 AM
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57. Another site investigating connections between Moon and Bush cartel
This is a blog that does this as its sole mission - quite a resource! We should be watching the political connections with the oh-so-saintly "Rev." Moon, or as he likes to be styled, the Messiah.

The name of the blog is
Where in Washington, D.C. is Sun Myung Moon?
Investigative journalism in bite-sized chunks by John Gorenfeld


and its home page is here (love the sarcasm in the site name):
http://www.iapprovethismessiah.com
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 06:48 AM
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58. Kick!
:kick:
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 04:26 PM
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66. Cults, Anti-Cultists, and the Cult of Intelligence
Thank you, Nothing Without Hope! Great thinks mind alike, please see posts #19, 21 and 33.

Here's something old, but the info's still new for too many Americans:

Cults, Anti-Cultists, and the Cult of Intelligence

by Daniel Brandt

EXCERPT...

The first example of such links is the Unification Church (UC) of Rev. Sun Myung Moon. Today it is too well-established to be considered a cult; the list of their front groups and businesses in NameBase runs to 28 pages with 667 names.<19> The UC no longer recruits on U.S. campuses the way they used to -- they don't need the money that Moonies would earn from selling flowers at airports, and they don't need this sort of publicity. Instead they buy universities: in 1992 the UC plunked down over $50 million for the University of Bridgeport in Connecticut, and one of the UC's new trustees there is Jack E. Thomas, who was assistant chief of staff for U.S. air force intelligence for six years, and then special
assistant to the CIA director for nine years.<20> Rev. Moon is also a force in Washington today. In 1992 he admitted that over its ten-year history, the Washington Times had cost him "close to one billion dollars."<21> The influence and respectability this provides is presumably worth more than that.

Before the Unification Church was incorporated in the U.S. in 1963 by Bo Hi Pak, Moon had the support of the South Korean Central Intelligence Agency (KCIA). The expansion of the cult into the U.S. was conceived as a means of influencing U.S. politics. Four of Moon's early followers were young army officers close to Kim Jong Pil, the founding director of the KCIA and chief strategist for the Park regime. Bo Hi Pak was the KCIA liaison to U.S. intelligence at the time, stationed in the Korean Embassy in Washington. Today he is one of Moon's top aides and president of the Washington Times. In 1962 Kim made a two-week official visit to the U.S., and Lt.Col. Bo Hi Pak arranged meetings with CIA director John McCone, defense secretary Robert McNamara, and Defense Intelligence Agency director Gen. Joseph Carroll. On his way home, Kim met with some of Moon's followers in San Francisco. Pak's other duties at the Korean Embassy
included frequent liaison trips to the National Security Agency at Fort Meade, Maryland.<22>

Today the Moon empire is similar to a transnational corporation with various subsidiaries. Cult-like aspects remain visible among Moon's entourage, but from the perspective of most employees, many Moon enterprises are just like other corporations. Rev. Moon still considers himself a Messiah, and his far-flung investments are the means he's using to save the world. His politics are essentially reactionary and anti-Communist, and he has received political and financial support from Yoshio Kodama, Ryoichi Sasakawa, and other powerful Japanese right-wing figures. In 1970 the Japanese contingent of Moon's organization sponsored the annual conference of the World Anti-Communist League.

CONTINUED...

http://www.freedomdomain.com/cults/cults01.html
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 02:25 PM
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61. Damn, I couldn't nominate this post............
What is it going to take for religious conservative christians to see how they are being duped and played by the dark forces? When will they realize that their enemies are not the progressive Democrats, but the people who demonize us in order to divide and rule the American people.
We may disagree about policy applications and how we can best serve the interests of this country...but most, on both sides of the coin, want to make this a better society. The Right really needs to read this and understand that their leadership is killing this democracy to further their crass interests.

It takes 2 oars to row a boat....America has 2 boats each with a single oar. Both boats are going rowing furiously, going around in circles....and that is exacty what the people in power want.

As always, a most thoughtful post. You and MB ought to port this page to Rigorous Intuition for future reference....it's too damn important to get archeived and forgotten.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:33 PM
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62. A Missive for the Ages: Ralph Reed's Other Cheek .
Sun Myung Moon and the CNP

EXCERPT…

Also, Ralph Reed of the Christian Coalition was a paid speaker at that event.

KELLEIGH: We know Ralph Reed is an adherent to Moon because in his book that came out, don't ask me the name of it because I don't know what it is, but it came out last October or November. He gave glowing reports in that book about Dr. Robert Grant and American Freedom Coalition. Dr. Robert Grant is a member of the Council For National Policy and American Freedom Coalition is a Moon front-organization within the Christian Right circles and the members of the Council For National Policy are widely known; James Dobson, Gary Bauer, Phyllis Schlafly, Don Wildmon. Jerry Falwell was a member at one time. I don't believe he is anymore. But, Pat Robertson, Nelson Bunker Hunt, all the names that you would know in the Christian Right that most uninformed Americans out there consider conservative. Isn't that right?

CHEY: Yes. You know, when Dr. Robert Grant... his official stand on it. This is an article that he wrote to the Washington Post on October 29, 1989 rebutting an article that identified him, the American Freedom Coalition as a Moon front-group said,


"I am not now nor have I ever been a follower of Reverend Moon or a member of the Unification Church. I am an evangelical Christian trained at the Fuller Theological Seminary who belongs to Christ and to no one else.... of course, those few individuals who I knew to be Unificationists, I have found them to be decent hardworking and talented men and women who agree with my and the AFC traditional values platform and political philosophy..."


So, he found common ground on traditional values and political philosophy and denies being a follower of Rev. Moon; but, does admit in the article that he had received $5,252,473.00 from Unification Church business interests.

CONTINUED…

http://watch.pair.com/moon.html

Well, it IS better to give than receive. Ask Ralph Reed…


Ralph Reed's Other Cheek

The man who mobilized the religious right puts his conservative connections to work for business.


By Peter Stone
Mother Jones

When the casino-rich Coushatta tribe of Louisiana began a lobbying blitz in 2001 to block three other tribes from opening competing casinos, they hired two of Washington's top influence brokers, lobbyist Jack Abramoff and public relations whiz Michael Scanlon. But Abramoff and Scanlon -- who are now at the center of a Washington scandal sparked by the multimillion-dollar fees they charged several tribal clients -- knew that to win any lobbying campaign in the South, they needed help mobilizing social and religious conservatives. So they turned to one of the best-known names on the religious right: Ralph Reed. Since his departure as head of the Christian Coalition in 1997, Reed has emerged as a highly sought-after corporate consultant, putting his organizing skills and political connections to work for business interests -- even those that conflict with his followers' conservative beliefs.

On the casino issue, Scanlon's company, Capitol Campaign Strategies, paid Reed to help assemble anti-gambling coalitions in Louisiana and Texas. Among other things, those coalitions backed a lawsuit filed by Texas' attorney general that early in 2002 succeeded in shutting down two Texas casinos that posed competition to the Coushattas' highly lucrative operation.

Reed says he has not wavered from his anti-gambling convictions and points out that his company was paid by Scanlon's firm, not the tribe. "We have never been retained by a casino to serve their interests," he says. But antigambling activists say that argument doesn't wash. "When you get paid big money, it's got to be gambling money," says Tom Grey, a Methodist minister who runs the National Coalition Against Legalized Gambling. "Ralph Reed with all his sophistication should have known where the money came from."

The gambling work is just one instance in which Reed has used his credentials with the religious right to further his clients' business agendas. Since its founding in 1997, his consulting firm, Century Strategies, has racked up millions in fees from companies including Enron, Microsoft, Verizon, and other Fortune 100 companies, according to sources familiar with its client list.

Reed's value to corporate America has been enhanced by his close ties to the Bush administration and especially to Karl Rove, the president's chief political guru. Not long after Century Strategies started, Rove reportedly helped Reed land an Enron contract worth at least $300,000 to help build support for energy deregulation. Century Strategies did voter-mobilization work for the Bush campaign and the Republican National Committee in 2000; it has been retained again this year for similar projects. Reed has also been serving as Southeast regional coordinator for the Bush campaign, with responsibility for delivering Florida and four other Southern states. Bush campaign manager Ken Mehlman has called Reed "the guy who gets it done" in the South, especially in reaching out to evangelicals and other religious groups and advising the national campaign on strategy.

CONTINUED…

http://www.motherjones.com/news/outfront/2004/11/10_400.html

Thanks, Old and In the Way! Much appreciate your always kind words and actions. Working together, we'll best these BFEE bastards.
http://www.motherjones.com/news/outfront/2004/11/10_400.html
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 05:39 PM
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67. Q: How do you get to Carnegie Hall?
A: Practice, practice, practice.

Q: How do you get "My Fellow Americans" to realize they are being FUCKED UP THE ASS by folks who wish them no good???

A: REPETITION, REPETITION, REPETITION.

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 10:00 PM
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70. BFEE BFEE BFEE
WAR MONGERING BUSH TRANSNATIONAL CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL-INTELLIGENCE WALL-STREET BIG BUSINESS NAZI GOLD LUVING MONEY GRUBBING PETROTRAITORS MAFIA-BEHOLDEN PREVERTS MADE UP OF ONE-PERCENT OF ONE-PERCENT SCREWING OVER THE REST OF THEIR COUNTRYMEN, FELLOW HUMAN BEINGS AND PLANET ARCHCRIMINAL MASTERMINDS AND CRAZY MONKEY SOCKPUPPET BFEE BFEE BFEE WAR MONGERING BUSH TRANSNATIONAL CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL-INTELLIGENCE WALL-STREET BIG BUSINESS NAZI GOLD LUVING MONEY GRUBBING PETROTRAITORS MAFIA-BEHOLDEN PREVERTS MADE UP OF ONE-PERCENT OF ONE-PERCENT SCREWING OVER THE REST OF THEIR COUNTRYMEN, FELLOW HUMAN BEINGS AND PLANET ARCHCRIMINAL MASTERMINDS AND CRAZY MONKEY SOCKPUPPET BFEE BFEE BFEE WAR MONGERING BUSH TRANSNATIONAL CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL-INTELLIGENCE WALL-STREET BIG BUSINESS NAZI GOLD LUVING MONEY GRUBBING PETROTRAITORS MAFIA-BEHOLDEN PREVERTS MADE UP OF ONE-PERCENT OF ONE-PERCENT SCREWING OVER THE REST OF THEIR COUNTRYMEN, FELLOW HUMAN BEINGS AND PLANET ARCHCRIMINAL MASTERMINDS AND CRAZY MONKEY SOCKPUPPET BFEE BFEE BFEE WAR MONGERING BUSH TRANSNATIONAL CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL-INTELLIGENCE WALL-STREET BIG BUSINESS NAZI GOLD LUVING MONEY GRUBBING PETROTRAITORS MAFIA-BEHOLDEN PREVERTS MADE UP OF ONE-PERCENT OF ONE-PERCENT SCREWING OVER THE REST OF THEIR COUNTRYMEN, FELLOW HUMAN BEINGS AND PLANET ARCHCRIMINAL MASTERMINDS AND CRAZY MONKEY SOCKPUPPET BFEE BFEE BFEE WAR MONGERING BUSH TRANSNATIONAL CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL-INTELLIGENCE WALL-STREET BIG BUSINESS NAZI GOLD LUVING MONEY GRUBBING PETROTRAITORS MAFIA-BEHOLDEN PREVERTS MADE UP OF ONE-PERCENT OF ONE-PERCENT SCREWING OVER THE REST OF THEIR COUNTRYMEN, FELLOW HUMAN BEINGS AND PLANET ARCHCRIMINAL MASTERMINDS AND CRAZY MONKEY SOCKPUPPET BFEE BFEE BFEE WAR MONGERING BUSH TRANSNATIONAL CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL-INTELLIGENCE WALL-STREET BIG BUSINESS NAZI GOLD LUVING MONEY GRUBBING PETROTRAITORS MAFIA-BEHOLDEN PREVERTS MADE UP OF ONE-PERCENT OF ONE-PERCENT SCREWING OVER THE REST OF THEIR COUNTRYMEN, FELLOW HUMAN BEINGS AND PLANET ARCHCRIMINAL MASTERMINDS AND CRAZY MONKEY SOCKPUPPET BFEE BFEE BFEE WAR MONGERING BUSH TRANSNATIONAL CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL-INTELLIGENCE WALL-STREET BIG BUSINESS NAZI GOLD LUVING MONEY GRUBBING PETROTRAITORS MAFIA-BEHOLDEN PREVERTS MADE UP OF ONE-PERCENT OF ONE-PERCENT SCREWING OVER THE REST OF THEIR COUNTRYMEN, FELLOW HUMAN BEINGS AND PLANET ARCHCRIMINAL MASTERMINDS AND CRAZY MONKEY SOCKPUPPET BFEE BFEE BFEE WAR MONGERING BUSH TRANSNATIONAL CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL-INTELLIGENCE WALL-STREET BIG BUSINESS NAZI GOLD LUVING MONEY GRUBBING PETROTRAITORS MAFIA-BEHOLDEN PREVERTS MADE UP OF ONE-PERCENT OF ONE-PERCENT SCREWING OVER THE REST OF THEIR COUNTRYMEN, FELLOW HUMAN BEINGS AND PLANET ARCHCRIMINAL MASTERMINDS AND CRAZY MONKEY SOCKPUPPET BFEE BFEE BFEE WAR MONGERING BUSH TRANSNATIONAL CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL-INTELLIGENCE WALL-STREET BIG BUSINESS NAZI GOLD LUVING MONEY GRUBBING PETROTRAITORS MAFIA-BEHOLDEN PREVERTS MADE UP OF ONE-PERCENT OF ONE-PERCENT SCREWING OVER THE REST OF THEIR COUNTRYMEN, FELLOW HUMAN BEINGS AND PLANET ARCHCRIMINAL MASTERMINDS AND CRAZY MONKEY SOCKPUPPET BFEE BFEE BFEE WAR MONGERING BUSH TRANSNATIONAL CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL-INTELLIGENCE WALL-STREET BIG BUSINESS NAZI GOLD LUVING MONEY GRUBBING PETROTRAITORS MAFIA-BEHOLDEN PREVERTS MADE UP OF ONE-PERCENT OF ONE-PERCENT SCREWING OVER THE REST OF THEIR COUNTRYMEN, FELLOW HUMAN BEINGS AND PLANET ARCHCRIMINAL MASTERMINDS AND CRAZY MONKEY SOCKPUPPET BFEE BFEE BFEE WAR MONGERING BUSH TRANSNATIONAL CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL-INTELLIGENCE WALL-STREET BIG BUSINESS NAZI GOLD LUVING MONEY GRUBBING PETROTRAITORS MAFIA-BEHOLDEN PREVERTS MADE UP OF ONE-PERCENT OF ONE-PERCENT SCREWING OVER THE REST OF THEIR COUNTRYMEN, FELLOW HUMAN BEINGS AND PLANET ARCHCRIMINAL MASTERMINDS AND CRAZY MONKEY SOCKPUPPET BFEE BFEE BFEE WAR MONGERING BUSH TRANSNATIONAL CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL-INTELLIGENCE WALL-STREET BIG BUSINESS NAZI GOLD LUVING MONEY GRUBBING PETROTRAITORS MAFIA-BEHOLDEN PREVERTS MADE UP OF ONE-PERCENT OF ONE-PERCENT SCREWING OVER THE REST OF THEIR COUNTRYMEN, FELLOW HUMAN BEINGS AND PLANET ARCHCRIMINAL MASTERMINDS AND CRAZY MONKEY SOCKPUPPET BFEE BFEE BFEE WAR MONGERING BUSH TRANSNATIONAL CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL-INTELLIGENCE WALL-STREET BIG BUSINESS NAZI GOLD LUVING MONEY GRUBBING PETROTRAITORS MAFIA-BEHOLDEN PREVERTS MADE UP OF ONE-PERCENT OF ONE-PERCENT SCREWING OVER THE REST OF THEIR COUNTRYMEN, FELLOW HUMAN BEINGS AND PLANET ARCHCRIMINAL MASTERMINDS AND CRAZY MONKEY SOCKPUPPET BFEE BFEE BFEE WAR MONGERING BUSH TRANSNATIONAL CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL-INTELLIGENCE WALL-STREET BIG BUSINESS NAZI GOLD LUVING MONEY GRUBBING PETROTRAITORS MAFIA-BEHOLDEN PREVERTS MADE UP OF ONE-PERCENT OF ONE-PERCENT SCREWING OVER THE REST OF THEIR COUNTRYMEN, FELLOW HUMAN BEINGS AND PLANET ARCHCRIMINAL MASTERMINDS AND CRAZY MONKEY SOCKPUPPET BFEE BFEE BFEE.



FUCK YOU, BUSH!
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 06:09 PM
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68. Kick
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 10:19 PM
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71. How'z'bout a kick to the pants of the YAKUZA
Business partners of the BFEE and Rev. Moon:

MOON

From Robert Parry's Consortium News:

http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/moon.html

Dark Side of Rev. Moon (Cont.): Drug Allies

EXCERPT...

But Moon's relationships with drug-tainted gangsters and corrupt right-wing politicians go back to the early days of his Unification Church in Asia. Moon's Korea-based church made its first important inroads in Japan in the early 1960s after gaining the support of Ryoichi Sasakawa, a leader of the Japanese yakuza crime syndicate who once hailed Italian dictator Benito Mussolini as "the perfect fascist." In Japan and Korea, the shadowy yakuza ran lucrative drug smuggling, gambling and prostitution rings.

The Sasakawa connection brought Moon both converts and clout because Sasakawa was a behind-the-scenes leader of Japan's ruling Liberal Democratic Party. On the international scene, Sasakawa helped found the Asian People's Anti-Communist League, which united the heroin-stained leadership of Nationalist China with rightists from Korea, Japan and elsewhere in Asia.

In 1966, the Asian league evolved into the World Anti-Communist League with the inclusion of former Nazis from Europe, overt racialists from the United States and "death squad" operatives from Latin America, along with more traditional conservatives. Moon's followers played important roles in both organizations, which also maintained close ties to the CIA.

South American Drugs

Meanwhile, after World War II, South America was becoming a crossroads for Nazi fugitives and drug smugglers. Nazi war criminal Klaus Barbie, the so-called Butcher of Lyons, earned his living in Bolivia by selling his intelligence skills, while other ex-Nazis trafficked in narcotics. Often the lines crossed.

CONTINUED...

http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/moon6.html


BFEE

The Bush Family: A Continuing Criminal Enterprise?

Gary W. Potter, PhD.
Professor, Criminal Justice
Eastern Kentucky University

The S&Ls, the Mob and the Bushs

During the 1980's hundred of Savings and Loan Banks failed. Those bank failures cost U.S. taxpayers over $500 billion to cover federally insured losses, and much more to investigate the bank failures (Pizzo, Fricker, and Muolo, 1989; Brewton, 1992; Johnston, 1990). More than 75% of the Savings and Loan insolvencies where directly linked to serious and often criminal misconduct by senior financial insiders (Pizzo, Fricker and Muolo, 1989: 305). In fact, less than 10 percent of bank failures are related to economic conditions, the rest are caused by mismanagement or criminal conduct (Pizzo, Fricker and Muolo, 1989: 305).

A good example of the Savings and Loan failures can be found in the activities of Mario Renda, a Savings and Loan insider who often worked in close collaboration with organized crime (Pizzo, Fricker and Muolo, 1989: 123-126;302). Renda served as a middle man in arranging about $5 billion a year in deposits into 130 Savings and Loans, all of which failed (Kwitny, 1992: 27). Many of these deposits were made contingent on an agreement that the Savings and Loan involved would lend money to borrowers recommended by Renda, many of whom were organized crime figures or people entirely unknown to the banking institution involved (Kwitny, 1992: 27).

SNIP...

Prescott Bush: The Yakuza’s Frontman

Finally, and perhaps most seriously, the Bush family pioneered the practice which has now become commonplace of collaboration between corporate and organized criminals. Prescott Bush, uncle of the current President and brother of the former President, played a key role in helping the Japanese Yakuza extend their financial and real estate holdings to the United States. In 1989, Prescott Bush made arrangements for a front company for Japanese organized crime groups to buy into two U.S. corporations and to make a sizeable real investment in the U.S. (Helm, 1991a: 1; Isikoff, 1992: A1). West Tsusho, a Japanese corporation, was identified by Japanese police officials as a front company for one of that country’s largest organized crime syndicates. Prescott Bush was paid a fee of $500,000 for his help in negotiating West Tsusho’s purchase of controlling interest in Assets Management, a U.S. corporation (Helm, 1991a: 1; Isikoff, 1992: A1). Bush also assisted the Japanese mob in investing in Quantam Access, a U.S. software company, which was ultimately taken over by the Japanese (Helm, 1991b: 10; Isikoff, 1992: A1). Both companies ultimately went into bankruptcy (Isikoff, 1992: A1; Moses, 1992).

George Bush Sr.: Shutting Down the Organize Crime Strike Forces

Despite assessments from senior law enforcement officers and experts on organized crime that efforts to control organized crime would be crippled, in December 1989, the administration of George Bush, Sr. abolished all 14 regional organized crime strike forces (McAlister, 1989: A 21; Struck out, 1990). The organized crime strike had been created as independent entities so they would not be subject to political influences or bureaucratic wrangling within federal law enforcement. In the two decades of their operation the strike forces had secured convictions of major organized crime figures in several U.S. cities (Struck out, 1990). It is at the very least curious to note that the federal strike force in Miami had been responsible for indicting Miguel Recarey, the man for whom Jeb Bush had intervened with regulators. Organized crime strike forces had similarly indicted Mario Renda, the organized crime liaison to the S& L’s, as well as several other key figures in the Savings and Loan Fiasco (Pizzo, Fricker, and Mulolo, 1989: 112, 120-123, 303, 337).

CONTINUED...

http://critcrim.org/critpapers/potter.htm

D'oh! Almost forgot the Mob.



I'm on top of the world, see!
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 10:52 PM
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73. Ehhhn! I'm da boss, see!



:kick: for Robert Parry and Consortium News.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 11:25 PM
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74. Yakuza Doodle Dandy
NAZI Mobster Do-or-Die.



Yakuza Doodle Dandies

Vampire Bats in the American Belfry


EXCERPT...

As Sterling and Peggy Seagrave make clear, the ruling family of Japan has always been governed by others more powerful than themselves. The emperor and imperial family are figureheads used to conceal from the public the real power brokers who lurk behind the "black curtain." These are the family owned and managed businesses or Zaibatsu that include such trans-national corporations as Mitsubishi, Mitsui and Sumitomo amongst others.

The authors say this corporate power has grown stronger, not weaker, and that the "postwar financial cliques share power with nobody. Not with the emperor, who is only a magic wand, and not with elected politicians, who are only hand-puppets. Financial cliques are the most powerful forces in modern Japan." Moreover, Japan's post-war business structure is unlike any other modern industrial society for the simple reason that organised crime are openly factored into it.

Hence the zaibatsu include not only "financiers, bankers and heads of corporations, but underworld bosses" - the so-called Yakuza crime clans.

The financial elite maintain their positions of power by paying bribes. In the same way that Japanese society is regidly structured in certain key way, it should come as no surprise that political bribery and large scale corruption are also disciplined art-forms.

Political bribes are paid in "Bullets" with each shot amounting to 100 million Yen, equivalent to US$800,000. This enables the most powerful families to govern from a position of invisibility - a feature that had dominated the thoughts of Japan's ruling elite throughout recent history....

CONTINUED...

http://www.the-catbird-seat.net/YAKUZA.htm

Bullets, see.
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 07:01 PM
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69. Must boot thread...
there...
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 10:27 PM
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72. Prescott Jr and the YAKUZA
Thanks, RBHam! Good to read ya! Hey! Didjahear...

Poppy was close to these fellas when prez. From his 92 campaign:

Bush sons' ventures expose him to scrutiny

EXCERPT...

Bush Brother Was a Consultant to Company Under Scrutiny in
Japan Finance: Prescott Bush gave investment advice to a firm
lately suspected of gangland ties and of exchange violations,
police investigators say.


Police investigators following the serpentine money trails of a company strongly suspected of being tied to a major Japanese yakuza (gangster) group have stumbled across a surprising American connection.

The police discovered that Prescott Bush , the older brother of President Bush , was working as a consultant to West Tsusho , a Tokyo-based investment company police believe is backed by one of Japan's most powerful underworld figures and which they are investigating for possible violation of foreign exchange laws.

The foreign exchange law violations are related to West Tsusho 's investments in two American companies, Quantum Access, a Houston-based software development company, and Asset Management International Finance and Settlement, a company in which Prescott Bush was a senior adviser until resigning the position last year. According to documents filed with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, Bush recommended the two companies to West Tsusho as investments and was paid a $250,000 commission by West Tsusho for his services in connection with the Asset Management acquisition. Bush also guaranteed some of West Tsusho 's investments, according to the SEC documents. . . .

SOURCE:

LESLIE HELM
06/11/1991
Los Angeles Times
Page 10

http://www.campaignwatch.org/refs3.htm

Now why wasn't this PAGE ONE?

MEDIA WHORES IS WHY.
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 12:58 AM
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75. There's a REASON we call them the Bush Crime Family...
Where's the Shadow when you need him?
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 06:30 AM
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76. In hiding with James Bath...
(according to anonymous sources).
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 12:39 PM
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79. En Paraguay? Hope he has lots of TV there.
WHAT MOON SAYS ABOUT GERTZ AND THE WASHINGTON TIMES:

True Father Reverend Sun Myung Moon
Sunday Morning Sermon
December 10, 2000 East Garden, New York

Excerpt:

When the time comes, it may just take a week to change the world. That's why I have been securing the media arm, radio, television and even the wire service. Imagine the five major media organizations opening their hearts and competing to broadcast my teachings. The world would be changed.

America is the most powerful country in the world. But its powerful leaders listen to the Washington Times. A statement from the Times can affect them dramatically. The government of other nations also listen to the Washington Times. Who at the Washington Times is having the biggest impact? Bill Gertz. How old is he? He is young. He only graduated from high school, joined the Washington Times and became famous. If you are a high school teacher, you should raise such students. If you are a college professor, you should become the most famous one in history.

SOURCE: http://www.usasurvival.org/ck06022002.shtml

This man is a nutjob:

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 12:35 PM
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78. Here's why people don't know: Bill Gertz, Super-reporter & Moonie
Corporate McPravda never even heard of the First Amendment. From a pro-Moonie page...

Come on Bill: Let's me honest with the American people. Tell the truth about Sun Myung Moon's North Korean Communist Connection



Bill Gertz (above), defense and national security reporter for the Washington Times, did not level with C-SPAN viewers on June 2 when he was asked about the Times' reporting of Moon's North Korea connection.

QUESTION ON C-SPAN:

People keep agitating about Iraq and yet our own government says that North Korea has chemical, biological and possibly nuclear weapons that can strike the United States right now. Now, Bill, your religious leader and the founder of your paper, Sun Myung Moon, has business and financial dealings with North Korea. He has a car plant there. He runs a hotel. He's been to meet with Kim Jong II. Your paper is supposed to be independent of your owner and religious leader and yet I don't see you reporting on Sun Myung Moon's North Korean communist connections. Why?

GERTZ REPLY:

I don't know. Have you read the Washington Times? We carry a number of stories about Reverend Moon's activities. We have not not reported on that. And I think we've covered it in a fair and unbiased way.

CONTINUED… Moonjob…

http://www.usasurvival.org/ck06022002.shtml
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