List the Schiavo case ironies/hypocrisies here!

The latest one I've thought of: the idea that marriage (between a man and a woman, of course) is a sacred, unquestionable bond.

Unless, of course, the Republicans decide to turn the private details of your marriage into a politicized circus. Then the "sanctity" no longer exists.

To recap the ironies:

- GOP kills medical-related bankruptcies which would allow people to keep loved ones on life support.

- GOP supports the "sanctity of marriage" only when it is politically expedient.

Let's get a list going!

Rethugs are for "smaller Federal government." Except when things aren't going their way!

- Greer is a republican judge that ran on conservitive ideals and is a southern baptist.

- All the federal level judges were appointed by Reagan and Bush 41.

of federal judges when they decided in Bush's favor during the election fiasco of 2000...

Are now screaming for the blood of these judges over this matter and questioning their abilities to make proper descisions.

I hope you enjoy time here....:-)

:toast:

<tinfoil hat mode>

But it doesn't seem so ironic if Schiavo is left to die and the fallout is a public outcry (http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=89481) for a referendum on the powers of the Judiciary system.

Then, this having been the same branch of the Judiciary that helped Bush steal the 2000 election doesn't really seem so odd... does it?

</tinfoil hat mode>

It is unacceptable to allow Terri Schiavo to die while it is humane to allow Sun Hudson to die.

It is moral to threaten others or interfere with the safety of innocent people in order to save one person (Schiavo "supporters" are calling the DCF's abuse hotline).

We have to keep the federal government out of health care unless the patient is Terri Schiavo.

We should protect states' rights unless the state is doing something our supporters do not like.

I commend you OrlandorGator for starting this ... but my head is EXPLODING with the hypocrisies on this one. Actually tired of thinking of it all ... this ought to be a long list. I'll post later, but will keep this thread 'kicked' for sure.

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they were right, but its BACKFIRED!

And they get out of control...its like people who want to keep wild predators as pets....Well, look what's happening to all those wild cats outside the hospice....they are rapid and are ready to assassinate Michael Schiavo and advocate a lynching of Jeb Bush if he doesn't go storming in there and take Terri and force their will on her despite court rulings....

Just Desserts I say to the Bush's, Neo-cons and GOP...... :evilgrin:

Medical stay cut short of immigrant shot by deputy as BSO halts aid
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/broward/sfl-cgomez16mar16,0,4661409.story?coll=sfla-news-broward
"German Gomez, 22, left the Williamsburg Landing center in Wilton Manors around 10:30 a.m. in a wheelchair. Gomez was discharged after the Sheriff's Office stopped paying for his care."


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German Gomez at Broward Medical Center after being shot by a BSO deputy.
(Sun-Sentinel/Mike Stocker)
Mar 16, 2005

1. Terry is likely going to die of starvation, caused directly by
her bulimia 15 years ago.

2. Fundies are now blaming the bushes (both brothers) for NOT ignoring
the courts (and that pesky constitution thing) and doing what they
want.

3. The amount of money spent on this theater of the absurd ( by
government, media, private parties) could likely purchase a
BILLION pounds of food to feed the poor ($140 buys 1000 lbs,
at least $140 M spent so far). Thats enough to feed every
child on earth for one day (or more).

Beat me to it.

And, the story is being reported to us by bubble-headed bleach blondes who come on at 5. For the most part, these female "reporters" are dumber than bags of hammers, but they look like Barbie dolls, with figures that many women cannot attain. Thereby promoting an image of the female body that you can't get unless you hire a plastic surgeon, personal trainer, work out 4 hours a day, or get an eating disorder.

And what are the bimbos reporting on? The eating disorder angle?

To add insult to injury, most of the male "reporters" are hideous or just average in appearance (think of the creepy Joe Scarborough, the Pig Man, and the harasser O'Reilly.)

... from what I've studied, most teens who develop them do so because they feel they lack 'control' over some aspect of their lives.

In this case, the glaring obviousness would be Ms Schiavo's mother, who seems to be a control-freak run amok. The eating disorder which led to the PVS may likely be traced back to mother/daughter power struggles, and even now, to the very bitter end, she is trying to control her daughter and force her to 'eat' and/or impose her own will on her daughter's existence.

Shameful, IMO.

story. I'm glad you started this thread. Of course now that such a thread exists, I can't think of any besides those mentioned. But here's one I did think of:

* The right to life movement has revealed itself to be about quantity of life, not quality. You have a right to a sliver of life, just don't ask for anything more than that.

And some more occur to me:

* Dr. Frist pronounces in a diagnosis via video that the Schindlers should have hope for their daughter's partial recovery, while earlier last year saying coldly that a physician would be wrong to hold out false hope to people like Christopher Reeve by supporting stem cell research. (Another DUer brought this up in another thread earlier today.)

* The strict reconstructionist party decides it's a good idea for the Legislative and Executive branches to gang up on the Judiciary to try to usurp a state's rights to interpret its own laws.

with the most spiritually painful fact of life: the inevitability of death.

believe in Heaven and that it is such a wonderful place...

Then why is it so horrible for Terri Schiavo to meet her beloved Lord and, I imagine, have a whole and restored body once again in Heaven.

Interesting that this is all coming to a head during Easter no less!

being starved to death are, IMO, largly responsible for this method of euthanasia. If they didn't have such an aversion to the use of other methods, the doctors could have probably given her a lethal injection and ended her suffering far more quickly.

In 1994, it was the ONLY option given to me when my husband suffered a massive brain hemmorhage that only left him with brain stem activity. It took 8 days for him to die.

I do not believe he suffered at all. But it was absolute hell on me and my children and how I WISHED they could just give him an injection like we HUMANELY do to our pets.

not involved in their cause

food she can't drink, eat or swallow.

Another irony: the red "LIFE" tape covering their mouths. It would be more appropriate to cover their bellies with it. That's where the feeding tube goes.

paying for Terri's care.


Refusing to increase funding for the soldiers that are coming home from Iraq with head injuries.

that allowed hospitals to decide to disconnect life support even if it's against the families wishes....no court order necissary if the patients family cant afford the care.

No court order necessary if the patients family cant afford the care.

In this important and devisive issue,
only three Senators bothered to vote.
Where is Senator Jefferson Smith, when we need him.

cocksucker should explode when he says that one.

How about the same courts that those maniacs surrounding the hospice are saying have committed "judicial homicide" are the very ones who bandied Gore around in 2000 & eventually decided in favor of their prez?

Not sure of this one, but if that hospice were located in Texas, wouldn't the "unplugging" have happened several years ago?

The parents claim they wish to care for her themselves, but years ago, when her husband brought her to their home, it only lasted for three weeks or so, before she had to be placed back in assisted-care. And earlier this week, the mother became physically ill upon entering her daughter's room for their visit & had to leave, immediately.

Those who claim to be protesting against the unusual suffering of one who is not conscious of their presence outside that building have created a week-long scene & made things very tense & difficult for the 60 or more others who are also living there (and dying) & all their loved ones.

The National Right-To-Life organization that is funding this escapade has now whipped people into such a frenzy that the lives of friends & family members of the person they claim to support are being threatened. Serious threats have been made against the judges involved in the case; even the cops who prevent the "cups of water" bearers from storming the hospice are in jeopardy.

while Terri has been kept alive with money from a malpractice award, and she probably would have been allowed to die long ago, without objections from her parents, if she hadn't been awarded the money.

How true, how true!

Forcing her to continue living unnaturally is not.

Her parents stating that even if she had told them that she did not wish to have a feeding tube that they would ignore her wishes and keep her alive, then expecting to be believed when they say Ms. Shiavo would never have said that.

Translating a gutteral noise into "I want to live" and expecting to be believed, while sworn testimony of Terri's stance on artificial life support is thrown up as lies.

Excerpt From: http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/03/26/schiavo/index.html



Even if this was true, which I doubt, it could go either way...

"I want to live!"

"I want to die!"

Or perhaps...

"I want to be left the f*ck alone!"

Our dear leader flies back to D.C. to save this one (already brain-dead) woman's life, but cannot be bothered to do the same when the tsumani hits, or the kids on the Indian reservation (not already brain dead) are dying.

Hell he didn't even interrupt a reading of "My Pet Goat" when someone attacked our fearless Commander In Chief's homeland--killing many of the subjects that our dead leader considers his children.

in the interest of our National Security.

How scary is that -- his handlers try to keep him out of the White House as much as possible.

Sun Hudson,Sun Hudson,Sun Hudson,Sun Hudson,Sun Hudson,Sun Hudson,Sun Hudson,Sun Hudson,Sun Hudson,Sun Hudson,Sun Hudson,Sun Hudson,Sun Hudson,Sun Hudson,Sun Hudson,Sun Hudson,Sun Hudson,Sun Hudson,Sun Hudson,Sun Hudson,Sun Hudson,Sun Hudson,Sun Hudson,Sun Hudson,Sun Hudson,Sun Hudson,Sun Hudson,Sun Hudson,Sun Hudson.

Goddamn them to hell, this little boy could have lived long enough for a cure\treatment to be discovered.

Throw THIS in their ugly, hateful mugs:

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/metropolitan/3084934

"The case is full of great ironies. A large part of Terri's hospice costs are paid by Medicaid, a program that the administration and conservatives in Congress would sharply reduce. Some of her other expenses have been covered by the million-dollar proceeds of a malpractice suit - the kind of suit that President Bush has fought to scale back."

- NPR commentator Daniel Schorr

but he's so ignorant and careless of the law, he didn't even know he had the window. Instead, the window closes, and the state troopers he sends over have to be confronted by local cops enforcing the law. Dumb as a sack of hammers, and his brain dead brother is probably furious with him.

Another, this terrible clip of Mrs, Shiavo is played endlessly by cable and she probably would have hated that image of herself broadcast to every American home.

Another, Mike Shiavo gets smeared after enduring this situation for fifteen years, approximately 14 years, 364 days, 23 hours and 55 seconds longer than George Bu$h's attention span. (Okay, so this is an estimate :) )

Just to state this one again.

I think the political implications of this are huge.

If this does something to jeopardize marriage rights between men and women, then gay and lesbian people like myself who want the same marriage rights (making health decisions for each other) are fighting for what??


ARGGGHHH this one just really bugs the hell out of me.

Not one of the professional wingnut bloviators who insist that they're trying to "save Terri" would, in their heart of hearts, choose to live a week in her condition, let alone fifteen years.

by now if the Clinton and bush administration had had the guts to allow that technology to be supported and subsidized!

It may not have been able to, but it certainly has the potential!

http://64.233.161.104/search?sourceid=mozclient&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&q=cache%3Awww.halturnershow.com

http://www.rawstory.com/

F**n idiots! Doesn't the hospice have TS in it?

She had body image problems, and now pictures/video from years ago is plastered all over the TV.

a few days back:

http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2005_03_20_digbysblog_archive.html#111134934659869241

I'm not going to excerpt it because every bit of it - and the supporting links - is excellent. Molly Ivins referred to it in her column on the Schiavo case, though she did not give a link to the blog or the article.

"The case is full of great ironies. A large part of Terri's hospice costs are paid by Medicaid, a program that the administration and conservatives in Congress would sharply reduce. Some of her other expenses have been covered by the million-dollar proceeds of a malpractice suit - the kind of suit that President Bush has fought to scale back."


- NPR commentator Daniel Schorr.

inserting themselves in this issue because they look on Terri Schiavo due to her incapacity as a fetus--unable to defend herself.

Yet these same insane morons, who preach a culture of life, have killed several abortion doctors for just doing their jobs.

Oh Yeah...that's a culture of life. I despise that man and his insane followers totally.

:grr:

http://www.intellectualconservative.com/article4235.html


Conservatives have for years railed against the ADA, and called for its repeal. And yet, many of these same alleged conservatives are now calling for the expansion of “disability rights.” Why? Either it’s to get even with that lousy Michael Schiavo, or because they have lost their minds, and are simply demanding anything that comes to mind.

The same social and religious conservatives have, in their support for the family, been adamantly opposed to gay marriage. And yet, many of them are supporting government intervention into the family (to protect the disabled or incapacitated) and the weakening of the marital bonds. Again, these people either don’t really support marriage, they don’t know what they support, or they have lost their minds.


Yes, I know it's a conservative site.

I don't have the picture right now but I remember it from another thread.

Schiavo of doing. And he filed a frivalous, wrongful death lawsuit to boot! Oh, this is gonna get real good......

Bump...

Taking Elian Gonzalez was wrong!

are now saying that...

Taking Terri Schiavo is right!

The hypocrisy is that this case wasn't originally about right-to-life. It originally was about a person's last wishes being carried out by her legal next of kin.

Read more on this by Jon Eisenberg: http://blog.bioethics.net/2005/03/have-conservatives-bought-bioethics.html

claiming to be in support of life or decency, in one case of one woman when our government is killing men women and children in Iraq?

Because it disturbs "God's Will" But a feeding tube however....

says they are open to discussion and then a number of people call anyone not conforming to the accepted DU opinion to be Freepers. trolls, whores, insane, and ant number of other names

DU is NOT open to any and all discussion. Freepers, trolls are forbidden. Whores and the insane are variously welcomed or shunned, depending on other factors.

If your opinion differs with the approved"DU conventional opinion" then you can be called a freeper.

on the Free Republic Forum, you are called names, your posting privledges are revoked and all your posts are deleted.

People who say this are morons! If God had his way, she would have been dead 15 years ago! She has been kept alive by artificial means!