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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:25 AM Original message |
My stepdad has Alzheimer's, should we just "pull the plug" and give up? |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
1. ignore |
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BlueEyedSon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
2. What would HE want? How much grief (or in Texas, "money") do you |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:31 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. you are forgetting the fundamental point--it was Terri's wish [bracket |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:59 AM Response to Reply #2 |
57. As I've said below, he |
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thecrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 12:27 PM Response to Reply #57 |
75. Is he connected to anything that is keeping him alive? |
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SemperEadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 02:48 PM Response to Reply #57 |
127. you know what? |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 03:23 PM Response to Reply #57 |
131. you know, this isn't that complicated. |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 04:14 PM Response to Reply #57 |
142. If that is his wish |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
3. It's up to him isn't it? |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 12:50 PM Response to Reply #3 |
82. this is nothing but flamebait |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 03:25 PM Response to Reply #82 |
132. well, since this is the weekend of using family members |
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JimmyJazz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
4. When his death is imminent, what measures will you take to |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:56 AM Response to Reply #4 |
52. He has asked that |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 12:08 PM Response to Reply #52 |
63. See, that's why I'm very clear in my advance directives |
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JimmyJazz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 12:26 PM Response to Reply #52 |
74. and, by standing by and not allowing heroic measures to |
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gardenista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 02:02 PM Response to Reply #52 |
108. So do whatever he says he wants, sounds clear, and stop trying to make |
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SemperEadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 02:49 PM Response to Reply #52 |
128. what is his definition of 'herioic'? |
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Dookus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:30 AM Original message |
No |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
15. Well said...nt |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
16. What Dookus said |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
26. ... and take advantage of advances in cryogenics! |
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Daydream_Believer (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
30. Exactly. |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
5. My grandma died of Alzheimer's a few years ago |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:33 AM Response to Reply #5 |
12. Nicely said |
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Tesibria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
7. missing the point |
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Orangepeel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:41 AM Response to Reply #7 |
32. :claps: |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 12:23 PM Response to Reply #7 |
73. That is true that the issue is self-determination, |
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Protagoras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 12:46 PM Response to Reply #73 |
81. You're distorting almost all of the reasoning I've read here |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 01:50 PM Response to Reply #73 |
104. That's a load! |
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Bouncy Ball (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 02:13 PM Response to Reply #73 |
115. ONCE again, |
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cry baby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 02:17 PM Response to Reply #73 |
119. Actually, LH, there is no real conflict in statements. |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 02:18 PM Response to Reply #73 |
120. She isn't following objects with her eyes |
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Texasgal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 02:21 PM Response to Reply #73 |
122. Where have you seen anybody |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 03:34 PM Response to Reply #73 |
133. so you either believe the 18 judges (at last count) or you don't. |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 04:16 PM Response to Reply #133 |
143. Very well said jdj |
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SemperEadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 03:45 PM Response to Reply #73 |
137. how do we know? |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 04:06 PM Response to Reply #73 |
139. now that's a bald faced lie..... |
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Cooley Hurd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
8. I recommend reading up on the Schiavo case... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
9. Deleted message |
JimmyJazz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:35 AM Response to Reply #9 |
20. There's no reason to be disrespectful. LH is entitled to her |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
10. I'm torn about this whole thing |
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Cornus (720 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
11. You should do... |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
13. Again... |
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Frances (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
14. Come back and ask that question |
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Rose Siding (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
17. *If* that were the same as a vegetative state... |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
18. Are you going to talk *at* people or talk *with* people, lieralhistorian? |
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Selteri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
19. I've worked with Alzheimers patients... |
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not systems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
21. What does/did he want? |
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TwilightZone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
22. The situations are far from similar. |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
23. liberalhistorian... are you still here? Care to respond to anything? |
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ClintonTyree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:45 AM Response to Reply #23 |
39. Hit and run................ |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:58 AM Response to Reply #39 |
56. Not sure why you responded to my post... |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 12:29 PM Response to Reply #56 |
76. Honey..I'm gonna give you an envelope in the event this happens to me |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 12:33 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. LOL... You got it, babe! |
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Longhorn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 01:56 PM Response to Reply #56 |
107. My grandmother, in good health otherwise, found out at 84 |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 03:42 PM Response to Reply #107 |
135. tears. |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:52 AM Response to Reply #23 |
45. Appears to be a "compare the noncomparable" variety of |
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gardenista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 02:03 PM Response to Reply #23 |
109. No, she's over at you-know-where, gloating. nt |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 02:12 PM Response to Reply #109 |
113. ... |
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Bouncy Ball (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 02:15 PM Response to Reply #109 |
116. Oh, that's interesting to know. |
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Daydream_Believer (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
24. Why does it matter what we think? The issue is what YOUR STEPDAD wants. |
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displacedtexan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
25. When your stepdad flatlines... |
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Goldeneye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
27. Can he feel pain? Can he swallow? |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
28. Your anger is missplaced. The only judgement re: your family member |
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Demit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
29. Are you his legal guardian? What would you do? |
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RetroLounge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
31. Yawn... |
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two gun sid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
33. Just my opinion. |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
34. What kind of instructions did he leave behind? He must have known.... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
35. my mom clearly told me she didnt want to do alzheimer, |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
36. Personal choice...so what are you asking us to do? n/t |
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oldcoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
37. Has he stated his wishes to his next-of-kin? |
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El Fuego (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
38. YOU decide, not the federal government. That is the point. |
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ananda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
40. privacy |
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pacalo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:47 AM Original message |
Is he on life support? |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
41. My dad went all the way down to semi comatose after 2 great years w/ me |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
42. you write this post, then you write one, should i even bother |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:54 AM Response to Reply #42 |
49. I can be against the government intervening |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:57 AM Response to Reply #49 |
54. well they are to if you suggest they should put the tube |
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Tesibria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 12:04 PM Response to Reply #49 |
60. absolutely you can |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 12:16 PM Response to Reply #49 |
68. If you're against govt intervention you can't be against the feed tube |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
43. Histrionic flamebait. |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 01:26 PM Response to Reply #43 |
94. Ya Think? |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 02:06 PM Response to Reply #94 |
111. Such drama queens we have! |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
44. Has he suffered a heart attack |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
46. What plug? |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
47. Wow, did you ever miss the point |
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_TJ_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
48. I have sympathy for you and your dad |
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gulliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
50. A grain of truth in a silo of horsesh*t. |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
51. what? |
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yellowdogintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
53. Lost my mom to Alzheimer's this year. We (my sisters and I) |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 12:09 PM Response to Reply #53 |
64. My mom is in the advanced stage of Alzheimer's |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
55. Come back and ask that question in several years. I don't think |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
58. You have seriously mis-stated the position of most posters here. |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
59. Do what you want. But keep your laws off of MY choice... |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
61. This post is pure flamebait and should be removed. |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
62. Depends upon his advanced directives |
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JordanTO (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
65. The ad hoc approach to this question no longer works. |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
66. under the present circumstances, of course not.... |
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bush_is_wacko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
67. Terri DOESN'T have Alzheimer's! |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
69. apples vs. oranges |
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Baconfoot (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 02:15 PM Response to Reply #69 |
117. Exactly |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
70. If I am not mistaken, you are a paralegal. |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 12:32 PM Response to Reply #70 |
77. Beautiful. |
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KG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
71. michael schiavo is a bush supporter. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 01:32 PM Response to Reply #71 |
96. how do you know that? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 01:35 PM Response to Reply #71 |
99. Evidence please. |
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KG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 01:41 PM Response to Reply #99 |
101. someone posted in a thread that MS contributed $ to the GOP |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 01:55 PM Response to Reply #101 |
105. I've got time. I'll check back shortly. Thank you. |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 02:04 PM Response to Reply #101 |
110. That was a different Michael Schiavo. Someone in |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 02:12 PM Response to Reply #110 |
114. Well, what's another drop of slander in the deluge of it? |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 02:20 PM Response to Reply #114 |
121. Seriously. n/t |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
72. Is your StepDad on Life Support? What were his wishes? |
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thebigidea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
78. people with hangnail should be murdered asap |
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stopbush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
80. Why are you even asking us? Isn't that his/your/the family's decision? |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
83. His mind is altered not utterly gone |
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Nickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
84. Speak in Right Wing Talking Points much? |
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stanwyck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
85. My mother died of Alzheimers |
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Wat_Tyler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
86. Please familiarize yourself with the definition of 'murder'. |
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KG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 01:20 PM Response to Reply #86 |
92. hey, what's a little slander, when you're trying to be sactimonious? |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
87. This is disgusting flamebait - you should know better. |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 01:17 PM Response to Reply #87 |
90. I'm with you, Pithlet |
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Connie_Corleone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
88. My grandmother is in the later stages of Alzheimer's... |
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Malva Zebrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
89. over the past two weeks |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
91. Before my mom lost her ability to speak as the ravages of ALS |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
93. If you are sincere and wish to do the right thing, start getting yourself |
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IdaBriggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
95. We lost my great aunt to Alzheimer's last summer. |
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steve2470 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
97. Of course not. My mom has AD. |
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NNguyenMD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
98. the point is that she never wanted to live like this |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
100. My father recently passed away from Alzheimer's. |
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ernstbass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
102. I have worked w/ Alzheimer's patients and their families for 24 yrs |
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Mz Pip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
103. It's none of my business |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
106. is stepdad's brain gone? |
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Bouncy Ball (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
112. Murder his wife? Bush supporter? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 02:16 PM Response to Reply #112 |
118. Yes, but Michael Schiavo kills kittens and eats them, and he has a dungeon |
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Bouncy Ball (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 02:21 PM Response to Reply #118 |
123. AND he paid Judge Greer to murder his wife |
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KG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 02:27 PM Response to Reply #118 |
125. pres. of the oaisis fan club? now that is sick! |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 03:35 PM Response to Reply #118 |
134. President of the Oasis fan club??? He should trade places with Terri! |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
124. My mother had an inoperable brain tumor and cancer in the bones |
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SemperEadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
126. If your step dad's wishes to his wife were that he didn't want |
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mandyky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 02:49 PM Response to Original message |
129. Your "Dad" is not Terri |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
130. wow, your stepdad has alzheimers, but you haven't discussed with |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
136. Does he have a plug? What the hell are you talking about? |
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Fenris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
138. This is the worst thread yet on this dead horse of a subject. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
140. Two things... |
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DS1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
141. I guess that depends on whether the courts have decided that your |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
144. Never mind |
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