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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 09:51 AM
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GOP Talking Points on Schiavo
From another message board:

1) Jeb Bush, George W. Bush, and Tom Delay are all qualified neurologists.

2) 22 successive court battles that all ended in exactly the same way means there is something wrong with the courts, not the Schindler's case.

3) Michael Schiavo is after money which is why he turned down 1 million dollars and 10 million dollars to sign over guardianship.

3a - corollary) Michael Schiavo wants to go off and live the life of a wild playboy, which is why he's spending every waking moment by Terri's bedside.

4) Congress and the State Legislature of Florida has nothing better to do than pry into the private medical affairs of others.

5) Pulling life support is bad in Florida when authorized by the legal next-of-kin, but pulling life support is good in Texas when you run out of money and the mother pleads not to pull the plug on her baby.

5a - corollary) Dying white women deserve special legislation to keep them alive. Dying black babies don't.

6) Medical diagnoses are best performed by watching highly edited videotape made by Randall Terry rather than in person by trained physicians.

7) Minimum wage-making nursing assistants are more qualified to diagnose a persistent vegetative state than experienced neurologists.

8) Cerebral spinal fluid is a magical potion that can mimic the entire functions of a missing cerebral cortex.

9) 15 years in the same persistent state is not really enough time to make an accurate diagnosis.

10) A feeding tube that infuses yellow nutritional goop is not really "life support".

11) Jesus was wrong when he said that a man and woman should leave their parents and cleave only to each other.

12) Marriage is the most sacred of all unions, except when it isn't.

13) Interfering in a family's private tragedy is a great reason to cut short a vacation, but getting a memo that warns a known terrorist is determined to strike inside the US isn't.

14) Right wing pro-lifers are the most compassionate people on Earth ... which is why they are hoping that Michael Schiavo dies a horrible painful death, and in some cases, robbing gun stores or offering money online to make sure it happens.

15) The Supreme Court of the United States and the State Supreme Court of Florida mean "Maybe" when they are saying "No!".

16) Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia is a bleeding heart liberal.

17) 7 Supreme Court Justices were appointed by Republican presidents, so it's Clinton's fault.

18) A judge who makes rulings based on the law is obviously an atheist, liberal, Democratic activist even though he is a conservative, Republican, Southern Baptist.

19) Getting nominated for a Nobel Prize involves merely the recommendation of an American politician.

20) Terri's parents were so overwhelmed that Terri tried to tell them, on March 15, that "I waaaaaant to live," that they somehow forgot to mention it to the courts until they filed a brief ten days later.
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Longhorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 10:03 AM
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1. Something else to add to Number 5:
Pulling life support is good when it is a private decision being made by Tom DeLay and his family.

Perhaps a separate talking point: lawsuits are not "frivolous" when they are filed by Tom DeLay's family.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 01:22 PM
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17. What is more important to the average American than being
protected from defective equipment at their lake home? Why do you hate freedom?
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Longhorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 02:06 PM
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19. LOL!
Thanks for the laugh!

Didn't you find yourself wondering if they did any test runs without people on board? And maybe even loaded down with sacks of sand or charcoal or something? :shrug:
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 02:23 PM
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20. Sure did. n/t
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checks-n-balances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 10:05 AM
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2. Nominated for Greatest
Even though it didn't originate here, thanks for the excellent post. Looks great for circulating via email.
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 10:11 AM
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4. Yes, I saw it. Who posted it originally? It should be attributed to
that poster.
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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 10:15 AM
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5. A guy named "liberal veteran" on one of the Yahoo message boards.
Edited on Sun Mar-27-05 10:15 AM by Archae
I think that's where it originated.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 01:18 PM
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15. Liberal Veteran is a DUer, and the post originated here.
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 12:36 PM
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23. Yes, that's where I saw it. It was on the "Greatest" DU page. ny
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 10:05 AM
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3. Great job. What's the Nobel prize angle? Never caught the
full story on that.
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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 10:53 AM
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10. A quack who is on the parents' side.
Dr. William Hammesfahr, he was "nominated" by his congresscritter.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200503240007
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 12:46 PM
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14. Thank you. In order to understand the way things happen in
Florida one must read Carl Hiassen's novels as if they were non-fiction just waiting for the right circumstances.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 10:20 AM
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6. 5b - corollary
One woman in a persistent vegetative state is of major national importance requiring the immediate attention of the President and an act of Congress. 15 dead in a school shooting only merits a brief mention in a radio address 5 days after the fact.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 10:38 AM
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7. I think that pretty much covers the main points
Certainly provides excellent foundation to litigate this case ad-infinitum.

:puke:
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 10:41 AM
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8. 21) Psychics now are valid sources of information
Especially when they have lucrative TV contracts and can hand-pick their audiences.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 10:45 AM
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9. I still think that the most important part of all of this is whether
or not the federal government has the right to get involved in private medical decisions that belong to individuals and their families.
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stpalm Donating Member (734 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 11:05 AM
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11. tag
this is awesome! going to look at it later
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 11:14 AM
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12. sent to my email list n/t
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 12:45 PM
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13. 2 a) Filing scores of unwinnable lawsuits is a good thing
when done by Rethugs but when a Dem files one suit (and wins), we are outraged by our litigious society.

2 b) Medicaid is bad because people should pay their own way, except for the Schindlers.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 01:19 PM
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16. This was written by DUer Liberal Veteran, and he posted it here
Edited on Sun Mar-27-05 01:24 PM by Bunny
on Thursday. Let's be sure he gets the credit for it. On edit - here's the link:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3342411
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 01:36 PM
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18. Excellent list -additions as well. -eom
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 05:41 PM
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21. Kick.
Edited on Sun Mar-27-05 05:41 PM by Old and In the Way
Brilliant, Liberal Veteran!
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 09:37 PM
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22. kick
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