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stpalm Donating Member (734 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 11:02 AM
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I hate Republicans because...
... they take advantage of decent people's religious ideas to further their evil aims.

... they win based on fear of mysterious "sand people" boogeymen.

... they manipulate what once was a proud, independent media by demanding "balance" and getting a free forum for their views as they cry about a non-existant liberal bias.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 11:03 AM
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1. they are just plain MEAN
and also they suck
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 11:42 AM
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13. Don't Hate Them...
beat them, correct them, trick them, deceive them, remove them from American politics, and even taunt them a second time.

But don't hate them, because then you become like them in a way that will never help get rid of them.
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Der Engel der Katzen Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 11:07 AM
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2. Generalize much?
:eyes:
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 11:10 AM
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4. You do not like criticizing Republicans?
...in a general way? ...or are you being silly?
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Der Engel der Katzen Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 11:34 AM
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10. I think it's foolish to generalize about any group of people.
Republicans, Democrats, Christians, Gays . . . it's useless.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 11:56 AM
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14.  -> DEMOCRATIC Undergound - generalizing about Repukes is what we do best
Is that something you don't enjoy? I LOVE it! One thing we do is learn GENERALIZED strategies to defeat our opponents - generalization of the opponent is part of that process - do you not share in these goals?
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stpalm Donating Member (734 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 11:11 AM
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5. what, do you disagree with my points? (nt)
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Der Engel der Katzen Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 11:35 AM
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11. I disagree with your generalization.
I find what you've said to be true of some members of the GOP. Not all. IMO generalizing doesn't help anything.
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Glenda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 12:16 PM
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15. I disagree with your disagreement
As a statistician, I believe it's helpful to summarize the "data" to form a conclusion to help us form a consistent strategy.

What's the use of having Democrats wandering around, unherdable like cats? Which you may understand based on your website.



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Der Engel der Katzen Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 08:49 AM
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18. Oh, "unherdable like cats!" I get it now!
You see, gosh, I just didn't get it until you drew an analogy using cats. "Which you may understand based on your website." Yes. Thank you ever so much.

So by all means, generalize away, if it is the only way to herd us stupid, group-thinking, cow-like liberals.

You see, I don't mind insulting condescension if it makes things clearer for me.

:eyes:
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 08:58 AM
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19. LOL I like that.
I got to use that. I'm not a statistician, but I have a strong math backgroud, so I can say something like, "Due to my strong math background, I can safely say that, statistically, Republicans are generally stupid and ignorant." It's pretty funny, IMO.
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Glenda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 10:30 AM
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24. I deputize you to be a statistician :)
We could also develop a statistical model that says "if a person has an IQ below X, and is gullible" they are likely to vote Repug.

I don't know what other variables are needed. Repugs just seem to miss the "Logic Gene" - I can't think of any other way to describe it. Maybe that is our 3rd variable, although they could all be highly correlated.

Our variables:
1. "dumb as rocks"
2. "gullible"
3. "genetically deficient"

= Repug
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 09:00 AM
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20. The majority of them have been duped, sorry.
There are people in the country who make $9.00/hr, have no health insurance for themselves or their kids, and can't afford education for their kids; yet, they vote Republican. I'm sorry; that's ignorance at its ugliest.
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Der Engel der Katzen Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 09:11 AM
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22. No need to apologize.
Just as I don't apologize for what I've said.

I agree that many Republicans vote contrary to their own best interests -- at least the way you and I see it. Many of the Republicans you've described probably vote "conservative" because the GOP portrays itself as the party of "traditional family values." In that way, they're voting Republican because it aligns with their religious beliefs. It's sad but true.

I'm different from a lot of DUers, GOPBasher, in that I think it's important to see Republicans as just other people struggling along in life. Looked at that way, it is hard to HATE them, and I refuse to hate even one of the biggest, most hated GOPers of them all, a man with whom I work, with whom I speak -- cordially -- every day.

Hatred is a big fat waste. We can be motivated to create change without it.
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 09:38 AM
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23. You're a much better person than I am.
I totally agree with everything you said. We should not hate them, we should not get angry, but I do. I can't help it. You're obviously better at it than I am. Good for you. Perhaps you can give me some hints? :shrug:

I feel sorry for that person -- the one making $9/hr and unable to provide health care or education for his family -- who votes Republican because his pastor says it's a good idea. But I can't help but get incredibly angry and the level of deception in this country. The right wing has really duped a lot of people, and it pisses me off greatly. Now getting angry at the victims -- the rank-and-file Republicans who vote against their self-interests -- is wrong and misguided, I agree. But sometimes I can't control my emotions.
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Der Engel der Katzen Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 10:36 AM
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27. I'm totally not a better person and I apologize--just realized how self-
serving that post sounded. :eyes: at self. I am sorry.

I get mad too. Hatred pops up and I hate it, but it can't be helped. I don't have tips. That post was pretty lame. Jeez.

I don't know why I feel the way I feel about this. Maybe coming through the crap I've survived and forgiving the ones who caused it... I don't know. I had to forgive to keep surviving. Maybe that's where I get it. Maybe from following Christ and Gandhi and King. I don't know. :shrug:

Have a good day, bud.
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 10:49 AM
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28. I didn't think it sounded self-serving at all.
What you said was true. We shouldn't get mad at those people, but I do. I know it's wrong. I try to follow Christ, Gandhi and King as well. I'm just not that good at it sometimes. :evilgrin:

Your's was a good post. It was very true.

You have a good day, too! :hi:
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against all enemies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 11:07 AM
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3. That's it, three stinking reasons. Make yourself feel better ...
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Beguine Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 11:18 AM
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6. They smugly talk about emotional Democrats
thinking with their hearts instead of their head and then try to control via public hysteria.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 11:29 AM
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7. They actively TRY to be ignorant.
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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 11:31 AM
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8. they mindlessly turn logic on its head..."Dems don't think for themselves"
..."Democrats don't think for themselves"

I REALLY hate this one. I think Rove thought of this one himself. Even if you accept this as a truth for one second, then the only thing you could come up with is that Republicans also do not think for themselves. But we know that this is actually the exact opposite, since Democrats "think for themselves" to a fault when it comes to national lock-stepping of message, etc.

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solinvictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 11:33 AM
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9. Three reasons:
1) They control the government, the media, and a throng of brain dead followers, yet their values are always under siege.
2) While they praise the market economy, the average corporate Republican believes in giving government largesse to companies through direct grants or tax breaks.
3) If a dime of tax money is spent that benefits an average American, it's derisively called socialism. If this same dime is given to a multi-billion $$ corporation, it is an economic incentive.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 11:37 AM
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12. With me
Edited on Sun Mar-27-05 11:38 AM by FreedomAngel82
I don't *hate* republicans (just the neocons) but I very very very strongly dislike what a lot of them do to people like a lot of previous posters have said. They're hypocritical and what they accuse us of doing they do themselves. They don't like it when someone talks back to them about their views and challenges them and even though they have hold on everything in our country still find SOMEWAY to play "victim." :grr: But yet because of my views I've been called everything from an idiot to anti-American just because I have different view points and a different reality. They've also hijacked my religion for their own greedy selfish reasons.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 02:03 PM
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16. They want indirect colonial rule within the USA using tribalism. Democracy
for everyone else. As long as all the good oil contracts must first pass through big oil.
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Joey Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 02:15 PM
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17. I hate republicans because.....
I hate republicans because:

They are greedy.

They are pathetic liars.

They do not care about the constitution.

They want one party rule.

They want a church state.

They want to ruin Social Security.

They want to end Medicaid.

They are willing to send someone elses kids to war for oil.

They hate the environment.

They are modern day Nazis.

They think they are better than everyone else.

They cannot think for themselves, that's why they need Faux News.


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Glenda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 10:32 AM
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26. Plus, they hate our freedoms n/t
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 09:03 AM
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21. Hate blinds people
and infects their judgement. Work on that, because the issues you mention do need attention. But to hate "republicans" is a stumbling block in your path.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 10:31 AM
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25. their ignorance threatens us all
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 10:58 AM
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29. They believe in Welfare for the Wealthy (tax cuts)
and screw everyone else.

That's what bothers me the most
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 12:10 PM
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30. I can't stand em because they've twisted so many things and lied
about so much that it's just plain ridiculous! They've let fear and anger rule their decisions to the detriment of many.

By and large they suck! :puke:
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