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oxbow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 02:41 PM
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It's almost time for battle...
Almost time for Senator Frist and the other regressive republicans in Congress to spring the nuclear option on us. Now that Terri Schiavo will soon pass away, Frist and Delay can blame her death on "activist judges" who murdered her by refusing to connect her feeding tube, or something equally incendiary. Then they will tell their people that the only way to ensure that Terri did not die in vain is to get some good Christian, pro-life judges in the Supreme Court, so this can never happen again. But to do that, they will need to enact the nuclear option, wiping out any ability by democrats to filibuster the most radical nominees. Which brings us all to what is going to happen in the Senate next week.

Thankfully, the tide is beginning to turn. The Washington Times recently reported that Frist is one vote short of the support he needs to wipe out the filibuster. Just one vote! Our very own Senator Warner is one of those who I believe will not support wiping out the filibuster. Based on what I heard as part of a citizens' lobby meeting with his staff, the Senator understands the full implications of this radical maneuver. This will certainly poison the well between republicans and democrats, who's support is still needed when it comes time to discuss tax reform, social security and other critical issues. Senator Frist would do well to remember that next week, if he is still planning to 'go nuclear' on us, that is.

There is NO vote in the senate that is going to be more important than this one. It will determine the balance of power in the supreme court for decades, which will determine the makeup of the country for decades as well. If you want to help, its not too late. You can call your senators and write letters to the editor to let all of them know what the score is. The Regressives have control of two branches of our government and next week, they're going after the third. They don't care if they have to break a rule or 2 to do it; the ends justify the means when you're building a one-party state.

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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 02:42 PM
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1. Yep. Every word true. nt
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 02:48 PM
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3. One Problem
MAJORITY of Americans don't consider these judges as "activists". They AGREE with the decisions.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 02:49 PM
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5. Ok has this ever stopped the radicals?
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 05:51 PM
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15. The Majority of Americans believe in the right to Privacy
and a womans right to choose not in the Rabid Radical Right to interfere and dictate. They agree with the judges decisions to allow the brain dead to die. They do not believe that the radical fringe should dictate to the mute majority.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 02:46 PM
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2. count on it-- this only the first sally in the attack on the judiciary....
This will be issue numero uno for the neocon repigs-- they will froth at the mouth and organize their base around the "martyrdom" of Terri Schiavo. Count on it.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 02:49 PM
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4. Yep, welcome to this
because more and more peoole need to get over the particulars and realize this is an attack on the principles of Federarism as well
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 02:51 PM
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6. Sounds like the honeymoon between
the moderate and extreme RW repubs is over. There is gonna be a fight, but it won't be on party lines. Maybe they will eat their children.
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oxbow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 02:58 PM
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8. There could very well be a fracture over this in the GOP
I know atleast 6 GOP senators are breaking ranks on this issue. If Frist goes ahead with the vote on the option, he could overreach and force a schism in the party. It's pretty unlikely that it would happen because of this issue alone, but depending on how fed up those 6 are, it could be the straw that broke the elephant's back.
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Mich Otter Donating Member (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 08:12 PM
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21. They won't fracture in my estimation..
I think John McCain will go along with Frist. McCain has sold his soul for a run in '08.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 09:31 PM
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22. That's worth hoping for n/t
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Discord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 02:56 PM
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7. Salazaar is another one who recently withdrew
his support of the nuclear option. We would all do well to write him and thank him for his change of heart. Knowing he has support behind him to keep firm on this decision will help him and us. You know the Repuke are going to be taking the screws to him to get him back on their side and further push this as a bi-partisan issue.
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:04 PM
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9. Didn't Salazaar recently withdraw his opposition to the fillibuster.
He was opposed to the fillibuster and just recently said he was considering supporting keep debating vote.

Thats what I remember.
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Discord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:06 PM
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10. yes. same thing basicly.
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oxbow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:09 PM
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11. I agree
Edited on Sun Mar-27-05 03:27 PM by oxbow
Here's the Washington Times story, witht the names of the 6 senators who are probably not going to vote with the party on this:

http://washingtontimes.com/national/20050323-121608-8533r.htm

Maybe it would be a good idea to start a calling/letter writing campaign to the 6 of them, just to tell them that they're doing the right thing. I will try to get their numbers later, gotta go to work right now. peace y'all
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:10 PM
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12. WE will have to remind everyone that the MEDIA ARE COMPLICIT..
in the great steaming stream of lies that are about to shower over us about an "out of control judiciary".

I hope everyone has their umbrellas!
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oxbow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:29 PM
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13. I watched Face the Nation this morning
they did a pretty good job of catching the synchronicity between schiavo and judicial nominations. hope the rest of em don't drop the ball tho
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:53 PM
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14. I kind of relish the idea of teh firestorm that will result.
I almost hope they'll throw the nuclear switch so that we can rise up and fall upon them with vengeful fury.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 05:53 PM
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16. What if Frist arm-twists the hold-out into voting for it?
I don't think many senators are above bribery and kickbacks, do you?
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oxbow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 06:13 PM
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18. Unlikely
Edited on Sun Mar-27-05 06:16 PM by oxbow
It seems like the senators opposing this have to be pretty principled in the first place to stand up against their own party like this. Of course, we saw how those two chickenshit Democrats from Hawaii sold out on ANWR for their own state's interests.

Im just praying that Warner et al stick to their guns on this. It's coming down to crunch time quick, and the fate of the supreme court (and our country) rests on so little.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 06:24 PM
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19. But not impossible
I still remain weary of what could happen. If nearly half the Senate Democrats can break for the bankruptcy bill, then why should I be anymore convinced that no one else will break here?
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oxbow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 06:31 PM
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20. Thankfully, Demos are putting up a pretty united front so far
You're right though, all's fair in politics and war. Frist could very well find something to bribe one of the democrats or holdout repubs with. That's why we have to keep the heat on them all the more these last few days.

Never give up y'all. Sometimes things have to get worse before they get better.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 09:32 PM
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23. But this takes all of the power away from the Dems
why would they do this?
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 02:56 AM
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24. Money
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 06:04 PM
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17. representative democracy is in the balance
Edited on Sun Mar-27-05 06:05 PM by mmonk
They will vote for judges that are neo-federalists that will serve as a veto over future progressive legislation as well as remove certain civil rights already establish through legal precedents. This battle is it. Its for the future of democracy in the US. Our family plans on making alternate plans to spend the rest of lives somewhere else should they end filibustering. Here is Reid's letter to Frist. Hope the dems hold (there can be no compromise on this).
http://interactive.pfaw.org/pdf/reid_letter_filibuster.pdf
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