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CRYINGWOLFOWITZ Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 02:53 PM
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are conservatives terrorists?
Edited on Sun Mar-27-05 03:06 PM by CRYINGWOLFOWITZ
In any country, it is the conservatives who are the terrorists, often religious fanatics.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7304692/

>>Amid the pitched legal battle over Terri Schiavo that has been fought through his court, Pinellas County Circuit Judge George Greer has been under the protection of armed guards, and friends say his family also is protected.

Death threats have been made against him for allowing Michael Schiavo to remove the feeding tube <<

>>Protesters now show up at his Clearwater home. The FBI arrested a North Carolina man it said placed a $50,000 bounty on the head of a judge in the case, although officials didn’t name the judge.<<


The conservative terrorists bomb clinics, harass nurses, shoot doctors, and now they issue fatwahs against judges.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 02:55 PM
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1. If they mean to cause fear though violence,
then yes.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:00 PM
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5. Physical violence is the tripwire; I agree
It's one thing to hurl insults and idiotic threats at others, but it's another when you, for example, lynch folks, bomb abortion clinics, gun down doctors at abortion clinics, assault minorities like the Neo-Nazis, and yes, drive jetliners into office towers.

Religious fundamentalists are the same regardless if they are Muslim or Christian or Jewish or whatever.
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ProgressiveConn Donating Member (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 02:55 PM
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2. Good old fashion conservatives? Nope. Neo-Cons and Religious Right? Yep
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leyton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 02:55 PM
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3. Um, no.
I thought we didn't stoop to this level. Yes, there are terrorists in the United States, but when I see people associate political leanings with terrorism, I want to vomit.
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illflem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 02:58 PM
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4. Both the extreme right and left
have the most potential to become terrorists
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:21 PM
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10. Actually, it's not a right or left issue at all
Edited on Sun Mar-27-05 03:24 PM by Selatius
It is about respect for individual rights regardless of political ideology. It is about authoritarian vs. libertarian in approach. It is a totally different sliding scale than one that measures how far left or right a person lies.

I am a libertarian socialist. I am about as far left on economic issues as that of Stalin, yet unlike him, I choose a path that embraces a highly democratic approach, much more than what we have today, than the path Stalin and his ilk chose. I believe the best path towards change is through education and popular organization. People like Stalin chose fear and violence in order to start change. This is unacceptable to me as well as many on the left who are anything but authoritarian in bent. Even most proponents of state socialism condemn Stalin.

Likewise, we can say the same for Hitler. Hitler's economic policies were actually quite center-right in nature, much more moderate than Bush's economic policies which come even closer to pure law-of-the-jungle unregulated capitalism with no safety nets. If we were talking simply economic policy, Bush is further to the right than Hitler, yet it was Hitler who chose a path far and away more authoritarian than Bush has done thus far.
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CRYINGWOLFOWITZ Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:05 PM
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7. not ALL conservatives are terrorists no
But you have to admit, bombing clinics, shooting doctors and issuing fatwahs against judges is terroristic.
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leyton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 04:52 PM
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12. And I did in my post.
I'm glad you clarified that all conservatives are not terrorists, because you certainly didn't say that in your original post.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 05:17 PM
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13. "not ALL conservatives are terrorists but most terrorists are conservative
Goes hand and fist together...
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:01 PM
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6. I am sure the other patients and their loved ones at the same...
...Pinellas County Hospice as T.S. feel very terrorized by the right wing crazies there...

All the people involved in the activities you mentioned ARE terrorists ----but, all conservatives are not terrorists (misguided, yes).
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Technowitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:07 PM
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8. These folks aren't just 'conservatives'
Edited on Sun Mar-27-05 03:07 PM by Technowitch
In fact, most of what's been proposed by these people runs contrary to true conservative principles.

The true conservative believes in the rule of law. And in things like balanced budgets, a non-interventionist foreign policy, and limited governmental intrusion into matters that should be either delegated to the states or, preferrably, to individuals.

These people are RADICAL reactionaries -- whose politics only bear a slight resemblance to conservative principles.

Note that we have similar people on our side -- the ones who have no problem blowing up a laboratory to stop animal testing. Or burning down a housing development under construction. Or spiking trees to stop logging. Our own extremist 'revolutionaries' would force everyone to be vegan and for all of us to give up technology.

The problem is EXTREMISM, not just one's particular political stances. It's when you lose all respect and empathy for the other person's point of view that you begin to be able to say, "It's my way whether you like it or not."

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CRYINGWOLFOWITZ Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:14 PM
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9. left wing extremists don't kill people
or terrorize them, but rather they damage property. these old time conservatives you talk about still have a few people in todays GOP, such as Lugar and Hagel. Only the GOP mainstream has deverged so far from this that these actual conservatives are "moderates" or "mavricks." The mainstream GOP continues to lurch further and further to the right, and continues to be dominated by social radicalism and religious fundementalism.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:31 PM
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11. Property destruction is unacceptable to me
The path I choose is the path of peace and non-violence. The only way violence is justified is self-preservation or self-defense. Torching SUVs and homes built in the "wrong place" is not the way to educate people. Arson is serious business, and someone could get hurt or killed. If someone does die, then does that make them terrorists?
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