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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 02:57 PM
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AP's picked up the DeLay-Let-His-Dad-Die story
DeLay Said Agreed Not to Extend Dad's Life

LOS ANGELES - House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, who has helped lead a congressional effort to keep Terri Schiavo alive, joined members of his own family nearly 17 years ago in allowing doctors not to take extraordinary measures to extend his father's life, a newspaper reported Sunday.

DeLay had just been re-elected to his third term in Congress in 1988 when his father, Charles DeLay, was severely injured in an accident. As the elder DeLay's vital organs began failing, the family chose not to connect him to a dialysis machine or take other measures to prolong his life, the Los Angeles Times reported Sunday, citing court documents, medical records and interviews with family members.

"There was no point to even really talking about it," Maxine DeLay, the congressman's 81-year-old mother, told the Times. "Tom knew, we all knew, his father wouldn't have wanted to live that way."

DeLay helped push through Congress a special law allowing Terri Schiavo's parents to ask federal courts to order their brain-damaged daughter's feeding tube reinserted after state courts allowed it to be removed. However, after hearing their pleas, federal judges refused to intervene.


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=512&e=4&u=/ap/brain_damaged_woman_delay

Don't forget to rate the story a five.
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simcha_6 Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:01 PM
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1. GREAT post! n/t
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:01 PM
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2. rated. nt
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:02 PM
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3. "Its current average rating is 5.00 with 24 vote(s)."
:thumbsup:
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Penguin31 Donating Member (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:03 PM
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4. "Its current average rating is 5.00 with 27 vote(s)." n/t
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:05 PM
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5. 5.0 WITH 34 VOTES!!
Including mine:)
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:10 PM
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6. Still 5.0 with 42 votes.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:10 PM
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7. This is so embarassing
Must we have the truth thrust upon us. This is just such an inconvenient time to be dealing with the truth.

most Americans want to concentrate on other things, like placing bets on who goes to Valhalla first, the Pope or Terri.

Let's get back to what doesn't count.

After all: Administration experts agree: Everything is just fine, so citizens can just shut the f*ck up and sit down.
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AngryWhiteLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:13 PM
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8. Article should be titled, "Scientists Find Evidence of Ultimate Hypocracy"
It's beyond words how much of a slug DeLay is and where his trail of slime leads.

JB
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Jensen Donating Member (866 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:14 PM
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9. This should be all over the MSM, but.......
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:17 PM
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10. Voted.
Its current average rating is 4.91 with 61 vote(s).
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:18 PM
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11. I saw it on CNN Headline News today, too n/t
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:18 PM
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12. DeLay and neocon elite: hypocrisy at ten to the twenty-third power?
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Daphne08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:22 PM
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13. The only thing this edited Yahoo story leaves out
is the part about the lawsuit.

Now, I'm sorry the Delay family experienced the loss of a family member so tragically, but really, one would think he would be a bit more sympathetic to families who also may experience such a thing in the future...


"...The family's wrongful death lawsuit accused the companies of negligence and sought actual and punitive damages. Lawyers for the companies denied the allegations and countersued the surviving designer of the tram system, Jerry DeLay.

The case thrust Rep. DeLay into unfamiliar territory — the front page of a civil complaint as a plaintiff. He is an outspoken defender of business against what he calls the crippling effects of 'predatory, self-serving litigation.'

The DeLay family litigation sought unspecified compensation for, among other things, the dead father's 'physical pain and suffering, mental anguish and trauma,' and the mother's grief, sorrow and loss of companionship..."

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-delay27mar27,0,5710023.story?coll=la-home-headlines

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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:22 PM
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14. But it doesn't mention the Product Liability suit the family filed later
against the manufacturer of the tram. A product liability suit where the manufacturer paid the DeLays in a settlement.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:29 PM
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16. I missed this story
where might I find it (per the product liability suit and settlement.)
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:42 PM
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19. It's in the LA Times story
It's posted in a thread somewhere in LBN.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-delay27mar27,0,5710023.story?coll=la-home-headlines

That section starts with "The family then turned to lawyers."

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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 05:20 PM
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27. Just read that... isn't that ironic.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:31 PM
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18. Unless, the "tinkerer's" who built the tram were degreed engineers,
and the design did not contribute to component failure, this was a frivolous lawsuit. Misapplication of components due to faulty design should not be cause to bring lawsuit. I suspect the companies settled because they didn't want to suffer the bad press of a loud Congressman.

But, in any case, DeLay does not want the rest of us to enjoy the same rights his family had to end their loved ones permanent suffering and bring lawful death lawsuits. That makes him the #1 hypocrite in my book.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:24 PM
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15. Robert Schindler let his mother die. Go here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1077219,00.html

Today, the Schindlers are spending much of the afternoon with a crew from the Christian Broadcasting Network, operated by the evangelist Pat Robertson. There is no question which side the CBN is on. "There is a spiritual battle going on. There is a pro-death movement out there right now, and it nearly killed Terri," says reporter Wendy Griffith. "From our perspective, it is a spiritual battle. It basically comes down to good and evil, life and death."

Outside the Christian right, such clarity over Terri's fate - or indeed the best recourse for any person condemned to live for years with virtually no brain function - is generally difficult to obtain.

But, given the vehemence with which he has been fighting to prolong Terri's life, it is a little surprising to learn that Robert decided to turn off the life-support system for his mother. She was 79 at the time, and had been ill with pneumonia for a week, when her kidneys gave out. "I can remember like yesterday the doctors said she had a good life. I asked, 'If you put her on a ventilator does she have a chance of surviving, of coming out of this thing?'" Robert says. "I was very angry with God because I didn't want to make those decisions."
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 04:54 PM
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25. More amazing hypocrisy.
I suppose their hook is, "a respirator is different from a feeding tube". In fact, withdrawing or refusing a respirator is no different from refusing or withdrawing a feeding tube, only faster.

It didn't surprise me to find out that Delay was a hypocrite - I expected no less. But this development is more surprising, and it does cast a bit of pall on the father's motives.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:30 PM
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17. Tom DeLay.....DADDY MURDERER!!!!!!!
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 04:12 PM
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20. Oh, yeah - there can never be enough posts about this hypocrisy
Burn, DeLay, burn...
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 04:15 PM
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21. Was there an inheritance involved??
Did Hot Tub Tom see his Daddy as worth more dead than alive?
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 04:37 PM
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22. How do we know for sure that his father did not want to go on forever
Edited on Sun Mar-27-05 04:38 PM by BrklynLiberal
like that? Was there a written statement? How do we know that Delay did not have ulterior motives? Why didn't the court step in? /sarcasm off/

"Tom knew, we all knew, his father wouldn't have wanted to live that way."
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 04:43 PM
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23. How about the "Schindler-let-his-mother-die" story?
But, given the vehemence with which he has been fighting to prolong Terri's life, it is a little surprising to learn that Robert decided to turn off the life-support system for his mother. She was 79 at the time, and had been ill with pneumonia for a week, when her kidneys gave out. "I can remember like yesterday the doctors said she had a good life. I asked, 'If you put her on a ventilator does she have a chance of surviving, of coming out of this thing?'" Robert says. "I was very angry with God because I didn't want to make those decisions."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3364707&mesg_id=3364707

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1077219,00.html


No notice by the US press, as far as I can tell. Surprise


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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 04:45 PM
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24. Now ain't that precious. He'll blame that liberal media.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 05:02 PM
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26. oh of course he will,,,,
because he's infallible, didn't you know?????????? the man's rap sheet is ever growing!



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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 06:31 PM
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28. Whoa! Compare the two (or does it matter)?
As I don my Nomex suit.

1) Mr. DeLay's father was injured in an accident. He was suffering vital organ failure from his injuries, which would have necessitated drastic life support, such as kidney dialysis. He had also suffered massive head injuries.

2) The only thing I see in common is both Mr.DeLay and Mrs.Schaivo had no living will, thought they both confided to next of their kin they did not want their lives maintained artifically.

3)There was agreement among the DeLay family not to extend his life. There was no opposing party who wanted to sustain his life. Mr DeLay's parents were deceased.

I think the big issue is respecting the marriage of Michael and Terri Schiavo vs. her parents insistence she be maintained on life support because they doubt she is in PVS.








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SW FL Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 06:59 PM
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29. CNN mentioned it at their 5 pm update n/t
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:39 PM
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30. Fox just reported it! quoting from LA Times Story.
Edited on Sun Mar-27-05 07:41 PM by jdj
happy day.

I just wonder about this story. I bet anything LA Times was doing a story on the scandal in Congress last week, and probably Delay threw out this tragic tidbit to try to humanize himself somehow, as part of his bio. Oops.
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 10:23 AM
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31. Article is being FREEPED!
:kick: !!!

"Its current average rating is 2.94 with 439 vote(s)."
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 11:27 AM
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32. Actually they reset the ratings-o-meter when they changed the story. n/t
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