Are the Schindlers turning on the hospice facility now??

Saw this on "Terri's" website..the article itself is old but it is listed on "press releases" dated for 3/26. Is this an attempt to get her moved elsewhere?? Even if the words are not coming out of the family's mouth, they are allowing it on their website:

http://www.terrisfight.net/
<click on press releases>


Terri Schiavo currently is being held in a Pinellas County Florida hospice that is not licensed to provide care for the chronically ill. Terri Schiavo is a non-terminal disabled patient with brain damage. Terri's own treating physician, Dr. Vincent Gambone, testified before the court,saying "her condition is one that there is no recovery. The damage that is done to the brain is not repairable."1 However, the chronically disabled are by definition not going to recover completely. These are not terminal patients, and the disabled can live many years so long as they are not intentionally killed.

Hospices are not licensed to care for the chronically ill. In order for a patient to be admitted to hospice, the physician must "certify" that the patient is likely to die within six months due to a terminal illness. Terri Schiavo has no terminal illness; the only cause of death in her case would be her intentional murder by those intent on ending her life.


and then another article from a doc saying Terri was "strangled" instead of passing out back in 1990:

Director of Forensic Medial Unit Claims Foul Play in
Terri Schiavo Case

Terri Schiavo's condition is consistent with attempted strangulation. Her healthy heart functioning for the last 12 years is not consistent with a "heart attack from an eating disorder" having ever occurred. Disallowing replacement of the feeding tube in this woman is homicide.

Critical facts in plain view must have time to be reviewed. This can be accomplished in 7 days



edited to correct last name in subject title

This is a load of hooey.

And an insult to the disabled.

Without that tube, she's terminal.

With the tube, she is not terminal.

It's out.

She's terminal.

they probably are trying to pull some bullshit as a last ditch attempt

uhhh...."they" (the parents) didnt put her in the hospice....her beloved husband did.




whatever.

But if your severely incapacitated you may need machines to artificially extend the ultimate end. IF you cannot breathe you might need a respirator, if your heart cannot beat on its own you might need a machine to keep it beating or if you cannot eat you may need a machine to feed you. WIthout any hope for recovery of mental functioning what is the point of prolonging artificially the mirage of life.

In Mrs. Schiavo's case she is already dead, only her empty vessel remains. WHat the machine has been sustaining is a mirage.

but its wrong then.

federal review for everyone not just TS. If there were uniformity amongst states in end of life matters, that would be a good idea.

the Schindlers. Whatever you think of their position, they are losing their daughter and sister and that's an emotional hell I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.

Jesus Christ on a stick. I hope NO ONE on DU ever has to face this type of thing ever.

I've watched several family members die. Some of who could have been spared a lot of pain if they had never received a feeding tube.

I've also known several people who had to make the decision to remove feeding tubes for elderly family members. Family members who have had their brains decimated by alzheimers and/or old age. To where they couldn't function for themselves, but had otherwise healthy organs.

My family (mostly conservative) and I have been discussing this in depth. They agree that they would not leave me in that state for long. They would get opinions and if the opinions were that I would never recover, they would let me go. As hard as it is to consider, my husband and I have made the commitment to do the same for our small children.

And get a living will if you don't have one.

What does this have to do with the crapping on of her family , though?

Children are expected to outlive their parents...Not the other way around...

People are talking about appropriate vs. inappropriate use of technology to prolong death, which is what is done in far too many cases.

when the Schindler's elicited the help of Randal Terry and his group, they lost all credibility with me. I think they, too, have a hidden agenda.

The devil being Randal Terry and the other Pro-Life factios who wish to impress their morality on the masses...

Funny how this all started after the bankrupt family did not get a cut of the damages award...

who truely love their daughter.

I have nothing but sympathy for them.

They would let her be in peace and not have this circus show going on. They would've told all these people to fuck off and let her husband deal with this since that is the law. They've been told "no" so many times. The science is there and they know her brain is liquid and you can't regrow a brain.

Or think they do.

I have no sympathy for them either.

of their death. The Schindlers cannot be sane, their behavior and the behavior of their backers has been disgusting.

When these hearings first commenced, testimony indicated and was not refuted that only Michael saw her on a daily basis. They were never blocked from seeing her then.

For all the things they accuse him of, all the testimony of all professionals but for one indicated he went above and beyond.

There is only so much leeway you can allow someone in grief.

Some have said, "they feel so strongly about this, let them have their way." I don't.

Nor do I think that some of the slanders and misinformation from their camp can go uncorrected and the purveyors go unslammed.

I hope they can be at the bedside and the funeral.

the ever so-compassionate and 7 year forgetful MS is planning for a cremation.

care to explain how Mr. Schiavo was "forgetful"?

Just because someone is cremated, doesn't mean a funeral isn't held. All of my relatives who've died were cremated and we had funerals.

In a thread where we are saying the Schindlers are grieving, you drop in with the snotty non-sequitur.

Terri's family. Burial in his own family's sites. What? He was married to a healthy Terri for five measly years???

Talk about cold blooded.

or so I hear.:eyes:

LOL

it's actually marriage?

couple's possession, I'm less likey to give credibility to a husband who is fighting his in laws over the life of their daughter.

If the couple had been married for many years; 20 30 40 50 years I would be much more comfortable with the spouses decision in the case of no end of life documentation.

Do you?

i suppose youre now going to link the two.

G'head.

to get married. It changes their legal standing.

But maybe if Terri's parents had respected her as a human being they'd be more welcome to participate in her service.

thanks.

from her parents to terminate a pregnancy in her body, but she does need permission from her parents to terminate life support when she's an adult.

but there was another hospice patient's granddaughter who did NOT get to be at HER loved one's bedside this weekend per a news report this morning...she was delayed by ID checks and metal detectors at the facility, all in place for Terri and her family. Missed the grandfather's death by minutes. Time she spent at these 2 checkouts. At some point this has to stop and someone needs to start looking out for the other hospice residents.

Geography has placed them at a very horrible moment in time for both them and their loved ones. No doubt they weren't searching those other visitors for weapons as much as they were for bottled water.

How horrible for those that are there that are NOT part of this circus. Will THEY be able to pass in peace with all of this going on just outside? Probably not.

You're right. If they loved their daughter they wouldn't have teamed up with these "pro-life" people and they wouldn't be slandering Schavio and telling lies about him abusing her etc. and they would come out and tell the truth.

but it can't be allowed to go on.

I mean, no amount of sympathy for their grief and sorrow can make me put up with Randall Terry.

the Schiavo. Whatever you think of his position, he is losing his wife and that's an emotional hell I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.

adultery? I think, if we scratch the surface of many RTL activists who want to "Save Terri", this is what their real issue is. Punish Michael for his sin of flesh....

They brought up overuse of morphine in the abuse charges and now this. The fundie freak protestors are also yelling at visitors who are going in to visit their loved ones.

Hospice is a wonderful organization, it's really a shame the fundie freaks and the Schindler's are attacking them.

They're up to something I think. I don't trust them at all.

Or how much of Vince Foster investigation type crusade they could turn one into. On the other hand, maybe they've all gone home.