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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 09:47 AM
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Why do people make excuses for the birth control thing?
I'm listening to Jerry Springer and this guy called in and he brought up abortion and said you're denying the right for a baby to live and you don't want to give the birth control. Women use birth control for numerous of things and not just birth control. Sometimes a woman uses birth control to get her system back on track etc. These people are forcing their views onto their customers when these pharmacists refuse to give the order from the doctor. It's not their job. Their job is to give out the medicine etc. not to be some spiritual adivsor. :eyes:
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 09:49 AM
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1. I'd like one of them to be denied their AIDS cocktail, blood pressure meds
or antibiotics because of a pharmacist's moral objection.
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 09:52 AM
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3. Or Viagra.
Edited on Tue Mar-29-05 09:53 AM by Ripley
They'd storm the drug store!

This is such an outrage. Many women use BCP for medical conditions like endometriosis (like me). Why should I be forced to drive to another drug store because some witch doctor is against birth control.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 09:55 AM
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5. Oh ESPECIALLY that. eom
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 09:59 AM
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9. OT: Beautiful image of Jupiter!
:applause:
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 10:00 AM
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11. It's a triple eclipse of Jupiter! n/t
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 10:04 AM
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14. Exactly
These pharmacists don't know why the person is having the birth control pill. It's none of their business. I'm' tired of all these rightwingers butting into my private life. First it was schools, then hospitals, marriage's, relationship's, and now they're butting into my doctor visit's!!! Can they PLEASE GO AWAY?! :banghead:
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 09:50 AM
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2. IF a person doesn't believe in filling prescriptions
Edited on Tue Mar-29-05 09:53 AM by Walt Starr
they shouldn't be poharmascists.

End of story. No compromise on that position.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 10:23 AM
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17. Succinctly Stated. I Agree 100%
Can't do the job, get out of the business. It's not part of the job to pass judgment on the medical necessity or health choice of others. Just count the stupid pills, put them in a bottle, type the info in the computer, and shut up.
The Professor
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 12:55 PM
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20. Walt, I totally agree.
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 09:53 AM
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4. They really don't know what the medicine is being used for.
That prescription could be for PCOS or for endometriosis like mine. They don't know what the doctor's thinking process was, and they don't know if the patient will use it that way.

With all that doubt, how can they say they're being the moral ones?
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 09:56 AM
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7. And it's none of their business WHAT it's being used for anyway -
in any way beyond looking for known risks, which are STILL up to the prescribing provider to sort out.
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 10:03 AM
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12. Exactly!
They need to just do their jobs and leave the doctorin' to the doctors (at least, that's what my hubby grumbles whenever he runs into this ;) ).
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 09:56 AM
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6. with all this remember one part of bible
roman came to jesus and asked him to heal his boy. the "boys" took care of all romans needs. that included the soldiers sexual needs. jesus went to boy and healed him. he did not say, that boy commits homosexual acts, adn i will turn my back on him. he did not preach to the boy to change his ways. he healed the boy

these people are not honoring their bible, they are doing exactly what jesus did NOT do
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 09:58 AM
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8. What kind of ass
gets a college degree in a profession like pharmacy and is still ignorant enough to want the entire world overrun with unwanted children?
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 10:00 AM
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10. Think of the jobs!!!
The more kids, more jobs for teachers, childhood disease doctors, Bible school teachers, Jungle Gym makers, Kool-Aid producers!

It's the economy stupid!
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 10:03 AM
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13. Yeah
More jails, more high school shootings, more child prostitutes
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 10:07 AM
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15. More poverty.
Edited on Tue Mar-29-05 10:08 AM by Ripley
More suicides, more child abuse, MORE ABORTIONS.

I think there is only one reason for his viewpoint. Controlling women's bodies. I'm curious as to whether there has been a case of a female pharmacist saying she would deny BCP.

On edit: I have to comment...sweet kitties!!!!!
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eternalburn Donating Member (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 10:13 AM
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16. OT: You have our cat.....
...or her twin.

The similarity is so close I was shocked when I saw the picture in your sig. We have a frost point siamese that looks exactly like the one you have :)

She is the silliest, nuttiest, and sweetest cat we have.
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eternalburn Donating Member (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 12:52 PM
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18. See....
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 12:54 PM
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19. Wait, wait, wait there are pharmacists who WON'T dispense
birth control with a prescription?

FreedomAngel is exactly right. I have a good friend who is on birth control and it is NOT for birth control, as her husband has had a vasectomy and she can't have anymore kids anyway. She has a problem with her uterus that the hormones in the birth control pills is helping. She is doing this for six months and if it doesn't work, she will have to have a hysterectomy (uterus only).

So if she were to get a pharmacist who refuses to dispense bc pills because of moral objections, um, what does someone like that do? Obviously go to another pharmacy, but that is ridiculous! She isn't stopping conception, it can't happen with her and her husband anyway!

Geez. :eyes:
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Baconfoot Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 01:04 PM
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21. We should stop calling them birth control pills. Call them what they are:
hormone pills. Like many drugs they can be used for a variety of purposes.

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Divameow77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 01:08 PM
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22. Will the same pharmacists
refuse Valtrex to someone with Herpes? Only dirty immoral people get STD's right? Can you imagine someone having to stand in a drug store and argue why they need Valtrex.
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