M. Schiavo would have to be a complete idiot............

Case Closed (Keith Olbermann)

If he, as some blood relatives of his wife now suggest after a decade of suggesting otherwise, somehow abused her, or he led to the heart stoppage that put her in her present state, it is not likely to be missed by the autopsy.

If he, as his in-laws and all of his critics now suggest after nearly a decade of suggesting otherwise, had an ulterior motive in seeking to end her treatment, it is not likely to be missed by the autopsy.

And if the part of her brain that makes her her was not irreparably damaged (in fact, turned to liquid)— as examination after examination and court after court has found— it is certain not to be missed by the autopsy.

In short, Mr. Schiavo has just given his critics three opportunities to prosecute him by authorizing, in fact requesting, the autopsy. If he’s been lying, or the doctors have been wrong, or any of the hysteria stirred up by those operating both in good faith and bad in this case, is true— then he is a complete idiot.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6210240/

Left the decision about what his wife wanted to the courts, and agreed to accept their decision.

He's an honest person, from all I see.

instead of keeping it in his bank account and doling it out.

It's the fundies who are the complete idiots.

Here's the whole timeline of events and court actions:

http://abstractappeal.com/schiavo/infopage.html

abstractappeal website.

He would always be accused of profiting should he write a book and would cause the circus to live forever, especially if the Schindlers go on a tv merry-go-'round or if they write a book and make the book signing circuit.

Instead, he should correct anything that may be wrong in this account, then point people to this website as 'the record', subject to the consent of this compiler and writer. This is an amazing piece of research written with caution, wisdom, and an adult sense of responsibility.

Bravo! I'm glad that I took the time to read it.

People on this "Save Terri Campaign" aren't interested in the results of any autopsy.

Michael can kill himself the moment Terri passes away and it wouldn't change their crusade.

This was never about facts... these fundie groups thrive on human misery and tragedy however personal and private. They are crusaders with a hive mentality inserting their poison into every facet of our existence... legal, judicial, private, public, reproductive, education on and on ad nauseum.

Why would they care if Michael is innocent of the accusations they made against him when he serves them so much better as their demon?

This was never about Terri. This was never about Michael. This was never about facts. It was never about truth. This was never about doing the right thing.

If it was, they'd have been protesting in front of the texas hospital where they pulled the plug on the 6 month old infant. They would have come down on the texas law giving hospitals the authority to pull the plug on a poor patient over the family's objections. They would have ripped bush a new asshole when signed that bill.

But they didn't.

These evil people care only about one thing... power. The power to dismantle the constitution and install their particular type of theocratic/corporate cocktail.

Facts, law, privacy, the sanctity of marriage and justice have no place in this discussion.


Note: I'm not referring to the advocates for the disabled in any manner. I believe their concerns are valid, but not as linked to Schiavo.

and we all know power corrupts. So don't expect anything but more of the same. Sad but true, how depressing.

:banghead:

:yourock:

:hug:

fight with the parents for 7. And here come the politicians!

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I believe Michael Schiavo is really doing what he believes his wife would have wanted. She doesn't want to live. She wants to die. He has no legal way to make her die faster or with less suffering (if indeed she is suffering now, which nobody can say for sure).

I applaud him for his courage.

not a full body autopsy.

If anyone has further info , please post.

I hadn't heard that one, but if it looks like hysterical RW propaganda and sounds like hysterical RW propaganda...

I grew up in the same town, same township. They were tough guys, guys whose fathers moved and took jobs at US Steel or the chemical plants because it was better work than the coal mines around Wilkes-Barre and Scranton. They are/were stubborn,proud and honorable men.
For the first few years, Michael Schiavo and the Schlinders were on the same page, and believed the same thing, that Terri would improve. But then something happened, Michael went to nursing school to learn how to care for Terri. What I think happened is that as he learned more about medicine, anatomy and physiology he began to have doubts that there would be any improvement in her condition. He started to move to a different place. The Schlinders, however, were still in the same spot as they were years before. Michael became "reality based", the Schlinders just could not move on.
I have always found it fascinating that Michael went to nursing school to help care for Terri. This is NOT something that a male of his background would normally do. I am trying very hard not to stereotype here, but I have a male cousin who became a nurse and I know the raised eyebrows,snickering and rumors he went through. Believe me, it was not easy for him, he went through alot of ridicule. It seems to me that this showed a great deal of love and commitment on Michaels part.
I have always been troubled by the conclusions that money was the reason for the rift between Michael S and the Schlinders, but what I now believe is that this was the flash point. Michael had moved on,the Schlinders knew it and were powerless to stop it.
Do I think that Michael believes that he is doing the right thing by Terri? Yes, why else would someone voluntarily put himself through this nightmare? He could have easily divorced her and himself of the whole situation.
So, then I get back to the men of my hometown. Those stubborn, proud and honorable men. Do I believe that Michael Schiavo is one of those men? Yes. Do I think that he is perfect? No, Dr. Wolfson has said that Michael is not a "warm and fuzzy" person. Nor does he have to be, he just seems to me to be a man who is doing what he believes is the right thing to do.


DISCLAIMER: I am not a psychologist, I only play one on discussion forums

that "Michael Schiavo agrees to allow autopsy". :eyes:

His "agreeing" to it or not has no bearing. Only the county medical examiner can order an autopsy.

Mr. Schiavo is free to suggest one, but he cannot order it.

The corporate media reluctantly are on this story since it's scamming the audience they want to yank in.

All the focus has been on Michael, but I'd sure like to know how the Schindler's can afford all the appeals and lawyers they've trotted in. Let's look at their lifestyle the past 15 years...and especially the last 5. I don't think they're living in a van down by the river...funded by the Scaife's and Coors and other right wing money pits that also can be traced to Gannongate and Slimeboats and Monicagate and so on.

Part of me almost feels sorry for those gullible morons who sent their names and cash to the Schindlers who will now profit by selling those names, pocketing the cash (there's no accountability), write books, do TV appearances, go to Space Mountain and enjoy a nice reward for selling their daughter and souls for the almighty dollar.