Prophecy and the Pope.

Its been a long time but I remeber seeing some shows maybe on history channel regarding prophecy and the Pope. Something maybe about the next appointed Pope is suppose to be the last Pope before XYZ happens. Anyone recall something about this?

you could find out in a minute over at freepland. The rapture is imminent, gather your children and wait by the street corner. Apocalypse NOW! :nuke:

Catholics don't believe in "The Rapture." It's not a Catholic term, bud.

dying off. It IS in its death throes, and can't sustain itself for more than a few years at the rate it's being tossed aside...

The USA is the last remaining holdout for xstianity; in all other civilized nations it's fallen by the wayside with fewer and fewer devout and adherence to falsely moral xstian tenets like marriage and children within wedlock.

Seems like all the other countries caught on way before we did.

since marriage and the nuclear family were discarded, especially for the single mothers.

if women were forced to remain with lying, cheating and/or abusive husbands (or vice versa) "to keep the family together."

Sometimes, being a single mother is preferable to the alternative. My mother lived a miserable, unfulfilling existence. But, her religious beliefs wouldn't allow divorce. The way her anger and resentment came out against her children left us all with a lot of emotional scars.

I'm not saying this is always the case, but sometimes divorce (or not getting married at all) is preferable to the alternative.

Marriage and nuclear families aren't necessarily the solution or it's destruction the reason for our current state of affairs.

That's why the church has annulments, my friend. The Church doesn't encourage people to stay with abusive partners...

millions of women the world over in times of war, work, widowhood, and the generic lack of men's responsibility in general.

Women don't need men to survive... we never have.

If you take a look at the statistics in europe, there are fewer marriages and more out of wedlock children than ever, in Great Britain, Italy, France, Sweden, Germany, etc. I don't see problems there any where NEAR the crisis magnitude of what the US is going through. Of course, their socialism is a great benefit to families there, too.

is not going to be able to last much longer. They are facing the same demographic problems the U.S. is. Only theirs are worse. I think Germany just hit a post-World War II record in terms of its unemployment rate.

Good luck with getting a European-style social democracy established in America. I don't see it happening myself. Even Bill Clinton was rolling it back with his "welfare reform."

At least with Europe we can see the results of neutral or negative population growth. In America both our social programs, structure of our debt and viability of our economic model are based on growth.

People invest in real estate on the assumption that population growth will mean a future positive return on their investment. The capital gain in stocks for most corporations is the expected increase in future sales for a predicted future period of that corporation. Would you invest in a company that had progressively fewer revenues every year?

The post WWII economic boom that Americans have enjoyed is largely the result of massive consumption of oil energy. Increased access to personal transportation, cheap food and plastic products is coming to an end. Already or very shortly we will reach the peak production of oil. If the population continues to increase the per capita consumption of energy(aka wealth) will decrease.

The only way to alleviate this is to find additional and expandable forms of energy to replace fossil fuels or reduce the population so that the remaining resources are shared among fewer people. The first option is difficult if not impossible barring the development of fusion energy and the second option is doable if expenses to care for the larger proportion of elderly is provided through the use of radical income redistribution. Socialism is our savior not our bane.

Also Bill Clinton was dead wrong on Welfare Reform.

You got me to laugh :hi:

that's that you're seeking...

266 John Paul II (1978-) 110 De labore Solis
(of the eclipse of the sun, or from the labour of the sun)
Hist.:Karol Wojtyla was born on May 18, 1920 during a solar eclipse. He also comes from behind the former Iron Curtain. He might also be seen to be the fruit of the intercession of the Woman Clothed with the Sun labouring in Revelation 12 (because of his devotion to the Virgin Mary).

267 ??? 111 Gloria olivae

268 ??? In persecutione extrema S.R.E. sedebit Petrus Romanus, qui pascet oues in multis tribulationibus: quibus transactis ciuitas septicollis diruetur, & Iudex tremêdus iudicabit populum suum. Finis.
(In extreme persecution, the seat of the Holy Roman Church will be occupied by Peter the Roman, who will feed the sheep through many tribulations, at the term of which the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the formidable Judge will judge his people. The End.)

http://www.catholic-pages.com/grabbag/malachy.asp

There has been a lot of prophesy in this regard. The ancient Mayans had the most precise calander known to mankind and it shows the world ends in 2012. We have seven years to rape and pillage the earth and anyone who stands in our way.. Party Time......:party: :bounce:

although, like you, I can't recall the specifics. Wasn't it one of those many "end of the world" shows that came on around 1999-2000?

I was thinking of it this morning when I heard the news of the Pope and would like to remember the details, if anyone can provide them.

Not, mind you, that I believe in the prophecy, I'm just interested in it these things. I believe the same show also presented the Mayan or Aztec prophecy that the world will end on Dec. 24, 20something.

History doesn't end until 2012, so y'all can relax, and contiune shopping, consuming, and discarding as usual.

the little girls (sisters, I believe) who said they learned from the Virgin Mary about the way the world would end. The girls talked to the Pope about it. He said it was so awful that he'd never reveal what the girls told him. Or something like that. I'm just going off memory here. Anybody remember?

supposedly appeared to them and told them things that they put in a letter and sent to the Pope. I forget the whole story, but I think there were 3 secrets in the letter and 2 of them have already come to pass. I think the third one deals with the end of the world or something like that.

There were three children, two died young as Mary predicted (not that I'm a believer, I'm just repeating the story).

The third girl became a nun. She was instructed to keep the third prophecy secret. She finally revealed it and it was in the news. It told a story about a city on a hill being besieged by soldiers and a pope being killed. Pope John Paul II said he felt this came to pass when he was shot. Other people in the Church disagreed with him, but they seem to have a political agenda behind their disagreement.

...of the prophecy of Fatima. Anyone can correct me, I'm going from memory here...there were three "secrets", the first dealt with World War One, the second with the rise of Communism, and the third was read by a Pope in the sixties and then sealed (he said it didn't relate to his time). A couple years ago, the third secret was unsealed by the Vatican and supposedly had to do with the attempted assassination of John Paul II. But a lot of people doubted that that's what it REALLY said....

Thanks guys, I was having trouble with the details. Not much on religion, but the story was interesting.

Doesn't the Pope think that Shrub is the Anti-Christ?

aLong the Lines of, JP2 being the Last pope and when he dies the end of the worLd is coming.

don't bother caLLing in sick.

It was called something like "The Book of Prophecies" or "The List of Prophecies." (It was published about the same time as all those "Book of Lists" were popular.) Anyway, I do recall that there was supposedly a prophecy that the next pope would be the last.

Some mystic had supposedly come up with a list of quatrains or short "poems" (I think) that predicted the identity of all the popes. His list supposedly ends after the next.

In 1139, St Malachy predicted what he saw during a vision as all the popes to come. According to his predictions,we are down to the last two. He has described the next pope as Gloria Olivae


http://www.catholic-pages.com/grabbag/malachy.asp

Other links to interesting prophesies about and by popes, plus the
Fatima Visitation

http://www.dreamscape.com/morgana/pandora.htm

http://paranormal.about.com/od/othermystics/a/aa022805.htm

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