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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:15 AM
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Why we'll never see the second round of Abu Ghraib photos.
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/040105Z.shtml

The Pentagon's Secret Stash
By Matt Welch
Reason Magazine

April 2005 Edition

Why we'll never see the second round of Abu Ghraib photos.

The images, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld told Congress, depict "acts that can only be described as blatantly sadistic, cruel, and inhuman." After Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.) viewed some of them in a classified briefing, he testified that his "stomach gave out." NBC News reported that they show "American soldiers beating one prisoner almost to death, apparently raping a female prisoner, acting inappropriately with a dead body, and taping Iraqi guards raping young boys." Everyone who saw the photographs and videos seemed to shudder openly when contemplating what the reaction would be when they eventually were made public.

But they never were. After the first batch of Abu Ghraib images shocked the world on April 28, 2004, becoming instantly iconic-a hooded prisoner standing atop a box with electrodes attatched to his hands, Pfc. Lynndie England dragging a naked prisoner by a leash, England and Spc. Charles Graner giving a grinning thumbs-up behind a stack of human meat-no substantial second round ever came, either from Abu Ghraib or any of the other locations in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Guantanamo Bay where abuses have been alleged. ABC News broadcast two new photos from the notorious Iraq prison on May 19, The Washington Post printed a half-dozen on May 20 and three more on June 10, and that was it.

"It refutes the glib claim that everything leaks sooner or later," says the Federation of American Scientists' Steven Aftergood, who makes his living finding and publishing little-known government information and fighting against state secrecy. "While there may be classified information in the papers almost every day, there's a lot more classified information that never makes it into the public domain."

It's not for lack of trying, at least from outside the government. Aftergood, for example, sent a Freedom of Information Act request to the Defense Department on May 12, asking generally for "photographic and video images of abuses committed against Iraqi prisoners" and specifically for the material contained on three compact discs mentioned by Rumsfeld in his testimony. The Defense Department told him to ask the U.S. Central Command, which sent him back to Defense, which said on second thought try the Army's Freedom of Information Department, which forwarded him to the Army's Crime Records Center, which hasn't yet responded. "It's not as if this is somehow an obscure matter that no one's quite ever heard of," Aftergood notes.

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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:38 AM
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1. kick
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clem_c_rock Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:44 AM
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4. I'm sorry to be stupid but what do DU'ers mean when they Kick a post?
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:51 AM
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6. it is just a way to save a thread
that has 'sunk' past the first page,
"kicking" it back to top.

:kick:
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clem_c_rock Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:53 AM
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7. Oh cool - I thought it was something negative about the post
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:53 AM
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8. by responding to a post, the thread gets "kicked" back to the top
Edited on Fri Apr-01-05 10:54 AM by librechik
of the topic queue, thus keeping the subject alive, "kicking" and out of the basement (bottom and back pages where they are seldom seen again)
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:40 AM
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2. Besides hypes and yikes from media,, what insight or cosequence...
Edited on Fri Apr-01-05 10:54 AM by orpupilofnature57
Did we gain? It was nothing but another opportunity for kkkarl to use his " Magic Show Kit"
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:42 AM
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3. Out of sight, out of mind
And another hundred meaningless magnetic ribbons get slapped on the sides of another hundred 15 mpg crapmobiles to "support the troops." And years from now, when these photos and videos finally crawl out and blink feebly in the light of day, millions of people will still wonder why all those darned terrorists hate us -- is it for our freedom? Because America is number 1, thanks to its veterans? Or some other irrational reason?
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clem_c_rock Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:49 AM
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5. given the fact that we have a Neocon administration and a Neocon press
There's much evidence that we're on our way to having a dictatorship.
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