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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:36 AM
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Freepers are at historic high for frothing at the mouth
Edited on Fri Apr-01-05 11:42 AM by Gman
I've studied freepers for over 10 years now going back to the days when I was a professional disruptor at the old Michael Reagen forum. I've watched later when the Michael Reagan forum was shut down and these people migrated to the new Free Republic web site. I watched them go into frenzies every time Bill Clinton even went to the bathroom. I watched them beat everyone that even dared to disagree with them.

But absolutely nothing in the history of freepers even comes close to the vile viciousness of the right wing over the Schiavo thing. They've focused their real inner anger. They now laugh off death threats to Florida state and even Federal judges as being deserved. They laugh off death threats to Michael Schiavo as deserved and openly hope someone does kill one of them or all of them.

This, my frieds is the true face of the right wing overthrow of the United States government that occurred in 2000 through the illegal installation of Bush as pResident:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1375272/posts

To: beyond the sea

I doubt dipstick Micheal will ever sleep comfortably again, i'm sure he will be cringing at the slightest noise and watching his back 24/7, having a dog test his food before he eats it.. Serves him right.

7 posted on 04/01/2005 4:55:18 AM CST by 1FASTGLOCK45 (FreeRepublic: More fun than watching Dem'Rats drown like Turkeys in the rain! ! !)
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Regarding threats to Judge Greer:


To: Pendragon_6
Judge In Schiavo Case Faces Death threats

HOW can that be surprising to anyone(???), when the whole nation and part of the world is watching HIM trying to MURDER an innocent woman in Pinellas Park in our State???
20 posted on 03/30/2005 9:26:30 AM CST by danamco
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To: Fan_Of_Ingraham

Oh, I do think that Judge Greer should at least be given the same mercy that he extended to Terri Schiavo, for that would only be fair.

27 posted on 03/30/2005 9:29:30 AM CST by tessalu ( A)
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To: Pendragon_6

Seriously, what did he expect?

33 posted on 03/30/2005 9:31:18 AM CST by beelzepug (Parking For Witches Only--All Others Will Be Toad.)
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To: Pendragon_6
Now Judge Greer is getting death threats, LOL!!!!

There seems to be a WHOLE Lot of STRATEGERY GOING ON.

I think the Judge speaks with a forked tongue!
46 posted on 03/30/2005 9:33:53 AM CST by TAdams8591 (Evil succeeds when good men don't do enough!!!!!!)
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Explicit condoning of the threats were removed by the moderator

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1373801/posts

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Regarding death threats to the Schiavo family:

To: Tumbleweed_Connection

He's going to have to go live in France to get any peace.

2 posted on 03/31/2005 8:53:01 PM CST by The Red Zone (Go to Florida, the sun-shame state, to be schiavoed, to greer someone, and to felos a patient.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
"Your time will come. The time will come, for all of us, for all of us. Time will come. I wonder which way you will get to go when time does come," the anonymous caller said.

Something for that family to ponder.
6 posted on 03/31/2005 8:59:55 PM CST by plain talk
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

What are they worried about? I thought death was supposed to be beautiful?

12 posted on 03/31/2005 9:02:54 PM CST by RPTMS (Screw the WPPFF)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
The person said that he was calling from Texas and he spoke for several minutes.

Wasn't me, but I'm not going to condemn it either. This family is scum.
21 posted on 03/31/2005 9:05:14 PM CST by Centurion2000 (Nations do not survive by setting examples for others. Nations survive by making examples of others)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1375110/posts#6

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This, my friends, is the element that is running this oountry. If you think we're going to get our country back by the ballot box alone, you are gravely mistaken. This element will not easily give up power to anyone anymore. We need to seriously consider what has happened to the United States of America. We need serious national leaders to stand up and meet this evil head on and not worry about how many votes they might lose in the next election by doing so.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:43 AM
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1. this is why
i can't even go to the free republic anymore... they make me sick.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:47 AM
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2. Somebody ought to
send this to the FBI. People have been detained for saying much less inflammatory things about Bush.


In all honesty, I do think these people represent the lunatic fringe of the Republican Party. Remember 80% believe Congress and the President had no business getting involved in the Schiavo case. I would suspect that of the 20% who did only a small part of that is this nuts.

Still it only takes a few.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 12:08 PM
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5. RW groups now do not fall under definition of "Terrorist"
Edited on Fri Apr-01-05 12:13 PM by nytemare
So, KKK, Militia groups, Skinheads, anti-abortionists who bomb clinics do not fall under the government umbrella of terrorism. PETA and such, do. I didn't think PETA was who blew up the Fed Building in OK, though.

I will try to find a link on that, I read it here.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 03:22 PM
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12. The rule of thumb is you only need 20% support of the people
to pull off a revolution. If the revolution succeeds everyone else falls into line. That's exactly what happened during the American Revolution. 20-25% is a significcant amount of support in a revolution.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 07:42 PM
Response to Reply #12
20. These people are lazy
and stupid. Remember their "huge" pro war rally? About 20 people showed up.

They may rant and rave online and to their friends but I just don't see them being organized or ambitious enough to pull off any revolution.

Timothy Mc Veigh blew up a building but it didn't start a movement. Most of them are cowards. IT's not like they are standing in long lines to enlist to support our troop. And in the grand scheme of things the protest/prayer vigils in Florida were really that big.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 07:57 PM
Response to Reply #2
22. At this point, I'm incline to believe that the FBI would give
the freepers a pass long before us.
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MemphisTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:49 AM
Response to Original message
3. Yet we're the angry ones with Howard Dean...
give me a break
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 10:18 AM
Response to Reply #3
39. Yes, why are you liberals so angry? Don't you love America? -nt
Edited on Sat Apr-02-05 10:19 AM by Al-CIAda
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 12:01 PM
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4. Check out my LTTE,
I submitted it last week, and it will be published in a weekly paper on april 7th. Your post re-affirmed my beliefs.
Here it is:

When George Bush was governor of Texas, he signed a bill into law which gave the decision of life and death to the health care industry. If the hospital determined that the patient would not improve, and the family could not afford the care, then hospital can withdraw treatment after 10 days. During this time, the family is expected to find a hospital that will treat their child. If no facility is found, then the hospital can withdraw treatment (remove a feeding tube) even against the family's wishes.

After signing this Texas bill into law, supporting the execution of retarded children, killing 100,000 Iraqi's and 1,600 Americans to advance his families business interests in the middle east, why are George Bush and the Neo-Cons suddenly interested in a single dying woman? I feel the answer is clear.

These actions amount to a shameless power grab designed to dissolve the Constitutional separation of powers which exist between the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branches of our government. George Bush wants the Federal Courts to be beholden to his wishes and is using this emotional issue to energize the fundamentalists into pressing support for his judicial appointments.

This is the Bushtapo's Caligula Moment. They are testing their power now that they control both the Executive and Legislative branches with their aggressive design on the Judicial branch. Caligula appointed his horse as Consul much the same way that Bush is putting the Federal Government in the harness of a small extreme faction of the religious right by perusing this issue under such false pretenses. They are daring the Secular Humanists to call him insane. Those who do will be burned publicly at the stake, and the complete power of this extremist faction of the Republican party over every aspect of our Federal Government, and your lives will come to pass.

If they pull off this fraud, then the days of religious extremists
actively sacrificing our virgins to the Volcano's of religious emotionalism will have surely returned.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 09:34 PM
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28. While it is a good letter,
You would have been better off quoting from the original essay and giving credit where credit is due:

On March 21st, I posted an essay, titled That Caligula Moment from my friend Dave that was originally published on www.upsizethis.org. The essay quickly made it to the the top of DUs greatest page. Dave's essay contained this text:

For me, it is That Caligula Moment. Delay is testing his power now that all the fonts of actual power are under complete control. Just as Caligula appointed his horse as Consul, Delay is now putting the entire Federal Government in the harness of the goofiest extremity from the Religious Right. He is daring the Secular Humanists and the Liberal Elite to call him insane.


Your second to last paragraph is a rather blatent rip-off.

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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 10:05 AM
Response to Reply #28
37. You are absolutely right.
Please read and earlier post when I asked about the question of plagerism. The idea of a "Caligula Moment" rang so true with me that I did not even consider plagerism when I hastily submitted my letter after hearing a news program.

The idea of plagerism did not even enter my mind until i got a response that it was going to be published.

I am no writer, and I am just learning the ins and outs of submitting letters to the editor.

My sincere apologies for my stupidity / inexperience.

please check out this post:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3377980
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godot Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 01:06 AM
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33. Plagiarism
I agree with Luminous Animal. You have plagiarized another poster on this forum. I ask that you recognize the source of your words. It's the right thing to do.
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 10:16 AM
Response to Reply #33
38. Yes, I did take the idea
from a post here on DU. When I searched and returned to the post after submitting the letter, the quote was gone, and there was a link to a website that I did not have access to.

I am not a professional writer, and I do not know the rules which govern plagiarism. The idea of a Caligula Moment rang true with me, and I did not give it a thought when I hastily typed that letter. The thought of plagiarism only occurred to me after a weekly newspaper replied and said they were going to run the letter.

At that point, i posted this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3377980

I also heard the term "Bushtapo" here on DU as well. Is it plagiarism to use that also? This is a sincere question as I genuinely do not know.

I only wanted to submit a letter to bitch about the republicans abuse of power. This is only the second I have submitted, and I wish more people would do it. The opinion section is the only place where the democratic voice has a chance of being printed.

Do I need to be isolated from all ideas and opinions before writing? Should people on DU not write letters as ideas have a way of floating around on this message board?
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SpaceCatMeetsMars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 12:09 PM
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6. Someone posted the other day
a message that Jim Rob, or whatever the hell is name is, wrote to them that was geared toward whipping them up against the judiciary with a whole big theme about how they are so incredibly persecuted.

Yesterday I heard Randi Rhodes reading some message from an anti-gay person that sounded exactly the same, except it was about the horrible evil gays with their Hollywood funding during the persecuting.

There is stepped-up rhetoric all over the place that seems to be deliberately trying to incite the right-wingers, in addition to the usual Bush code words.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 12:09 PM
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7. Oh I thought you meant over the Pope's failing health
Those people aren't big fans of Catholics, just ask Bob Jones.
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YankeyMCC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 12:11 PM
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8. Oh but I'm sure the corp media will do a little story
on these wacky RightWing radicals.

- If ONLY!
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 12:14 PM
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9. My suggestion, BUY GUNS, LOTS OF GUNS
Seriously, these people are itching to take their violence into the streets in one large Kristalnacht rampage against anybody perceived to be even moderate and they are going to collectively snap one day soon.

Buy guns now. I recommend shotguns as you do not have to be a marksman to take someboyd out whehn they are trying to kill you.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 03:23 PM
Response to Reply #9
13. Walt, that's the best advice anyone can give right now
People think its extreme. I don't think so. I keep my shotguns handy all the time for whatever reason.
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solinvictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 07:43 PM
Response to Reply #9
21. I agree...
Preparedness is not a dirty word. Guns can be relatively inexpensive and if it comes down to the Freeper Inquisition, they can save your lives.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:02 PM
Response to Reply #9
30. Already got 'em babe.
It's practically a law here in Texas that you have to own two, minimum.

I'm kidding. But it's pretty close to the truth.
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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 01:19 AM
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34. Ditto
It always strikes me as insane how many otherwise intelligent DU'ers here go into hysterics when someone mentions buying guns for self-defense, when we are the very people in need of them the most.

What you said is my belief exactly, except I prefer a semi-auto .223 over a shotgun (I am a fairly good marksman :-))
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 12:32 PM
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10. They're just mad that they can't find a way to blame it on the Clenis.
nt
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 12:45 PM
Original message
Perhaps these comments and links
should be forwarded to the NYT, Peggy Noonan, Andrew Sullivan and anyone else who has highlighted the "viscousness of the liberal left" that they reported they found here.

I'm sure the liberal media would jump and the chance to demonize those good, GOP Christians.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 08:38 PM
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27. I posted this hoping some lurker from one of the above
or all will find this and write it up.
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 10:27 AM
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40. Good idea. The 'unglued' and 'unhinged' have nothing on these freaks. -eom
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 12:45 PM
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11. These freeper fucks are ALL cowards, they hide and slither...I love to
kick the living shit out of all of them, but they are such sick lying cowards they NEVER show their faces, when it's one on one.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 03:41 PM
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14. They have no balls... that's why they aren't in Iraq.
Freepers only talk tough. They are really girlymen, hiding behind their illusion. Did you see any at our protests the last few years? Did they kick our asses? No, because WE are the true, riteous Americans, willing to go toe to toe with fascists assholes. WE are badass motherfuckers and they know it. I hope they read this post and discuss it at Freeerville - they will lie to each other about how tough they are, how they got the guns, etc... WRONG! WRONG! WRONG! ... for example, you knuckle-dragging Freeptards, my uncle is a GUN MAKER, and as CHILDREN we learned to lock and load many weapons of different calibers.

Nope. Freeps are mostly a danger to themselves.

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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 04:05 PM
Response to Reply #14
16. Exactly
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Azathoth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 04:02 PM
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15. So basically, they're endorsing a fatwa calling for Michael Schiavo's head
Edited on Fri Apr-01-05 04:03 PM by Azathoth
Translate FR into Arabic, replace all references to 'God' with references to 'Allah', and the forum would be virtually indistinguishable from an Islamic extremist/terrorist website.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 07:25 PM
Response to Reply #15
17. Salmon Rushdi
and Michael Schiavo are both wanted dead by religious zealots.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 07:34 PM
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18. This is why I am frightened. They will be shooting judges and anyone
else that they see as a "threat." The fRight-Wing keeps them stirred constantly with non-stop hate rhetoric. And if you believe it can't happen here, watch "Sometime in April" and "Hotel Rawanda."

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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 07:39 PM
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19. Not just FR
I hang out on other right wing boards and outside of the day after the election, this is one of the nastiest they have been. Usually they are somewhat tolerable for a few moderates, but now they want our heads and every Democrat and judge related to this as they blame the Democrats for this "injustice".
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 08:07 PM
Response to Original message
23. If the moderators removed an explicit threat
which is a crime against a judge, does that mean they are guilty of covering it up? Are they somehow responsible or complicit if they didn't report it before deleting it?
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 08:11 PM
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24. These people are seriously ill and dangerous.
Someone needs to notify the FBI and the media about these lovely people.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 08:17 PM
Response to Reply #24
25. But because
they are on the side of George W. Bush and he needs all the raitings he needs they won't do anything about them. Rightwing groups aren't listed as terrorist's even though they are. Just from watching the latest Schavio fiasco I can see that. They're very scary indeed.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 06:48 AM
Response to Reply #25
35. And that's a damned shame.
There has got to be something we can do about the media. DUers are so intelligent...I hope some of these great minds here think of something. We have got to get some coverage by protesting, boycotting, writing letters, SOMETHING!

Just look at all the real news that didn't get the coverage it deserved because of the Schiavo/Schindler circus. Oooooohhhh, I'm so angry.

Peace
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 08:35 PM
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26. Yeah, I got in a big freakin argument with several today
They called ME delusional because I said the whole Schaivo thing was about right wing politics.
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Melynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 09:46 PM
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29. Free Republic is why I register at DU
I started reading Free Republic after the Buckhead/Dan Rather/Bush National Guard documents episode and I was appalled at what I saw. One of the Freepers mention DU and I start reading/lurking here and found that I liked this website.

You are right, those Freepers are a psychotic bunch. It seems like the Schiavo incident pushed them over the edge.
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SpaceBuddy008 Donating Member (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:31 PM
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31. KUDOS for documentation WHEN WILL WE REACH peak FASCISM?
or does that not follow a bell curve either?

really think we should notify proper authorities

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Petrushka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:43 PM
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32. How bad is it in FReeperville? It is so-o-o bad that there's now a . . .
Edited on Fri Apr-01-05 11:50 PM by Petrushka
MANIFESTO OF THE WPPFF/WILD TURKEYS/COALITION OF THE SANE

Posted on 03/29/2005 at 11:58:34 AM EST by Long Cut

We, the Witness Protection Program for Freepers, aka the Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane, have through mutual discussion and rigourous thought, determined that:

1. The discussion threads regarding Terri Schiavo (hereafter referred to as "TS") have become too full of innuendo, rumormongering, hyperbole, hysteria, namecalling, paranoia, and general poor behavior to warrant participation.

2. Said threads have degenerated into "echo chambers", wherein the same, common thoughts are continually posted again and again, and the same old disreputable, unconfirmed and/or false urban myths are propagated.

3. Anyone who joins in said threads with alternative viewpoints to the most extreme posts are routinely driven away with slander, accusations, and vile namecalling.

4. No data or evidence contrary to the "prevailing opinions" are accepted, considered, or discussed; and in fact are rejected in most instances.

5. That the continued calls for armed insurrection, military or paramilitary involvement, impeachments of politicians and judges, and death threats are embarassing, stupid, shortsighted, doomed to failure, and contrary to most if not all conservative thought prior to this case, as well as damaging in the extreme to FR and the conservative movement as a whole.

< snip >

We reject all accusations of Naziism, "death cultism", or other slander as methods of debate. We reject the practice of "spamming" multiple threads, or posting unending vanities, and the posting of propaganda and calls for violence. We reject, in fact, all unseemly and childish behavior which has come to characterize this case on FR.

< snip >

Let the discussion begin!

Signed,

The WPPFF, aka The Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

The very first reply was posted by thoughtomator:

Suggested alternate name: "The Good Germans"
And, thus, the fun began . . . there are over 4000 replies at this point and you don't have to read too many of them to get the picture of what's going on over there:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1373116/posts

(Edited to correct spelling error.)

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nightperson Donating Member (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 07:28 AM
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36. If not for that freeper thread, I might not have Googled this shirt:


Disclaimer: I'm not a Green and I don't know anything about the shirt's makers. I am scary though }( .
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