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monobrau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 12:23 PM
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CNN = Vatican C-SPAN this morning?
Edited on Fri Apr-01-05 12:47 PM by monobrau
What the hell is this? The pope is dying, we get it. Why are we getting a mass beamed into our homes live? CNN's race to the bottom of the dung heap continues....

On Edit:
Just to clarify, this is not an attack on catholics or the pope.
This is about a news organization beaming a religious service uninterrupted into our living rooms. It is disrespectful to those of other faiths and it is not the function of a news organization.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 12:25 PM
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1. The Pope is important to a lot of people around the world
Catholics and non-catholics.

A Pope doesn't die everyday.
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Tux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 12:29 PM
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5. Oh well
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monobrau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 12:34 PM
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9. That's beside the point
I understand and acknowledge that, and my problem isn't with those who mourn his passing.
My problem is that there is a religous service being beamed live into everyone's homes via a "news" channel. That is not news.
Do you see the difference?
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 12:26 PM
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2. Isn't there a court somewhere that can step in and force him
to the hospital where he can get the proper care?(insert sarcasm here)
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Not_Giving_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 12:31 PM
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6. I had the same thought
I was just too chicken to post it.
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 12:32 PM
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7. There's a World Court in the Hague......
maybe we can get an order that forces him to get treatment. :-)
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Not_Giving_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 12:34 PM
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10. Are there bagpipers and trumpet players
Outside of the Vatican yet?
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FrankieBud Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 12:26 PM
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3. Maybe in some way that we don't understand,
we are all Catholic now. CNN just didn't tell us yet.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 12:26 PM
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4. A head of state and leader of 1.1 billion people is dying.
We're sorry to inconvenience you.
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mohinoaklawnillinois Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 12:32 PM
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8. Thanks Tony, that needed to be said.
I'm not a practicing Catholic anymore, but Pope John Paul II is a truly good man and he will be missed by many people, Catholics and non-Catholics alike.

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Lone Pawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 12:37 PM
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12. Thank you.
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monobrau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 12:39 PM
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13. How is a religous service news?
Edited on Fri Apr-01-05 12:40 PM by monobrau
I have no problem with coverage, and this could be a good opportunity to educate non-catholics. I know they will be talking about it all day. But beaming a religous service into everyone's living room is offensive.
I guess all the Protestants and Muslims can go pound sand today.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 12:45 PM
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14. There's always HBO. n/t
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 12:54 PM
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16. That's why they have channel changers.
Edited on Fri Apr-01-05 12:55 PM by Cuban_Liberal
It may be offensive to you, but that does not make it offensive per se.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:01 PM
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18. tyranny of the majority.
Edited on Fri Apr-01-05 01:01 PM by jonnyblitz
:P
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 12:36 PM
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11. If it wasn't the Pope, it would be Schiavo or MJ or
Edited on Fri Apr-01-05 12:43 PM by Spazito
Falwell or....

This happens everytime a Pope dies so, for once, CNN, etc, aren't doing anything that hasn't been done even when actual news was reported.

Edited to add: We will see the hypocrisy of the media when the leader of any other religion that #s it's followers in the billions dies and the coverage will be the 20 second blurb.

I don't fault the coverage on the Pope, only the hypocrisy inherent in the lack of coverage of other equally important religious leaders.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 12:53 PM
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15. The Catholic Church might have a controlling interest in
CNN. (I'm not sure of that though.)
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 12:58 PM
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17. It's Not The Mass...It's The Testimony
This is the fourth pope spectacle I've witnessed...all on the tube...and I would expect coverage of masses and words from various Vatican and American church officials. I'm not a xtian, but I can appreciate the beauty and special moment this is for the Catholic church and the somber pagentry that is unfolding.

The thing I find objectionable...and this happened with the Pentacostal fundies all day yesterday with Terri Schaivo, is the constant morality play this network is subliminally, and now, overtly playing. Instead of being a reporter of fact, they're a relayer of fact.

Fortunately many of the priests who I've seen are speaking more to their faithful than to play politics, but that hasn't been the case with this network's tilt toward playing "morality cop".
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:05 PM
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19. I think it's more just hanging around
think of itlike this: everytime news happens somewhere the newsfolks get there and.... wait. Wait for whatever to happen, official announcements, The Big Event.

If there were a plan hijacking, you'd say pics of the airport and the airplan sitting on the tarmac

If there were a bombing, you'd see the building in a shell, ambulances going to an fro, and people screaming.

If there were an election, you'd see ballot boxes, people voting, people counting votes, etc.

So, this is the vatican and we have dying pope on our hands. While we are waiting for the official word, you're watching what goes on there ordinarily, which is a church service.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:09 PM
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21. Great analogies
And even one more step further, OJ Simpson takes the police on a car chase, and you watch a Bronco driving around LA for hours.

Or really, any car chase ("Oh, he's turning again....looks like they may try and box him in....oh, he maneuvered around that one...turning again...blah, blah, blah).
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:06 PM
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20. First, I'm not Catholic
And two, I was born in 1980, so I've never seen coverage of a Pope dying and a new one being elected.

I find it fascinating. I don't agree with the Pope on a lot of things, but I respect the man. As the leader of a huge religion, I totally understand why all the news is practically only talking about the Pope. It is a huge news story when a Pope dies.

And really, I'd rather watch about the Pope, than more about Terri Schiavo and the "feud of the funeral" or Michael Jackson or Jerry Falwell.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:12 PM
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I'm neither Catholic nor outwardly religious
Edited on Fri Apr-01-05 01:15 PM by Norquist Nemesis
but I really don't have a problem with this. :shrug: I can always turn it off it get to be too much. There are millions of Catholics (both practicing and non) around the world who feel a connection for what is going on. And they still have the crawl with other news, too.

Personally, if it's a choice between this and Tom DeLay excoriating the judicial system, I'll choose the Pope!

edit to add: In fact, I think I'm more interested in this than my Catholic husband. When the Pope was hospitalized in February and with the events leading up to this moment, I'd sometimes look at him and say, "Uh-oh". He just looked back and said, "What? He's an old guy!" with a shrug.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:12 PM
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22. Who still watches CNN?
Quick, switch the station. All that Popery might sully your innocent TV.
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monobrau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:27 PM
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23. Sure - got a news channel I can watch?
All this "change the channel" silliness ignores the fact that it's supposed to be a news channel. I realize the standards for what constitutes news are at an all time low, but I'd like at least a small glimpse of what is going on in the world right now.
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