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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 12:51 PM
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Billy Graham Will The World Be As

Concerend and will the media be camping outside his Charlotte NC home or hospital with as much fevour as they are the Pope when has come his time. Will the national MSM cover his funeral like they will the Popes, garranteed that next week his funeral will be pre-empting US television.

Billy Graham is my Pope....Rev Graham represents Christian values/beliefs that I beleive are more in line with scripture.

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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 12:52 PM
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1. It will be a big story without a doubt when Billy Graham dies
but probably not as big as the Pope's death. By the way, I feel that Graham is not in the same leauge as Falwell, Robertson and their ilk.
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Jack The Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 12:55 PM
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2. Notable about Mr. Graham..
You do not hear the man whoring his pulpit for war or politics or any other of the charlatan GOP issues the way that Falwell, Robertson, etc do.

His son though, I have heard some pretty disconcerting things about.
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onager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:15 PM
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7. Graham certainly is a huge 'Ho for power
The best example: Billy Graham threw himself all over Richard Nixon in the '72 election campaign. Among other things, Billy went on and on about how Nixon was a "Godly man."

Of course, this came back to bite him when Tricky Dick finally resigned in disgrace.

Eventually, good ol' Billy Grab'em was rehabilitated. Largely because of that sunny, Jesus-is-my buddy persona. (Which, BTW, was notably absent when Nixon and Graham were talking about the Jews "controlling the media." That was captured on Nixon's tape recorder.) So his son Franklin, a Fundie bigot par excellence, is an apple that didn't fall far from the tree.

Graham REALLY relishes his largely self-created role as "America's preacher." I think the old fraud loves it when a national disaster happens and he gets to appear on TV beside the current president. (I'm thinking of the '95 Oklahoma City bombing.)

You could argue that Graham's whole career is based on nothing but shamelessly brown-nosing the power elites. He got his start when the Hearst newspaper chain started running puff pieces on him, back in the late Forties. A "miracle conversion" of a gangster allegedly occurred.

A google will turn up several good OBJECTIVE biographies of Graham--not the usual mindless pro-Billy propaganda churned out by the media.

I always liked Garry Wills' description of Graham as "a man who has, by dint of hard work and perseverance, turned himself into the thinking man's Easter Bunny." (That's from memory, but close.)

Oh, and he supported $hrub in the last 2 elections.
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 12:56 PM
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3. Of course!
I don't think the media is Protestant or Catholic or anything like that!

But to me the essence of Protestantism was the removal of the Christian faith from cult of personality. I have deep roots in Protestant clergy who felt deeply that no one represents the Christian Church. I'm not a Christian, but I feel that was probably a good thing for Protestanism.

I'm also directly related to Henry Ward Beecher, but that's another story.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:04 PM
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4. We are related then! My Great great great? Aunt is harriet Beecher Stowe!
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:10 PM
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6. The irony is that protestantism...
...has had many sects especially the fundies start to revolve around cults of personality of their own.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:09 PM
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5. The Pope is actually a head of State as well as a religious leader.
I have no doubt Mr. graham will receive a lot of attention, and justly so, but the Pope is also a diplomat and an international figure. I think the death of a Pope is , whether one agrees or not,considered on par with the death of a president , king, or other world leader.
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