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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 06:24 PM
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Pope Helped Overthrow Communism in Europe...Rate it!
Not one word about Pope Ronnie! The pope, Lech Walesa, Gorbachev...no Reagan!

Rate it a five and make the 'pukes froth!

BERLIN - Karol Wojtyla became a priest in 1946, just as the Iron Curtain descended across Europe. The inspiration he provided as Pope John Paul II helped to tear it down.

Lech Walesa, founder of the Solidarity movement that toppled communism in Poland in 1989-90, recalled the power of John Paul's visit to Warsaw in 1979. It was the first to his homeland after becoming pope a year earlier, and he ended Mass with a prayer for the Holy Spirit to "renew the face of the Earth," words that became a rallying cry.

"We know what the pope has achieved. Fifty percent of the collapse of communism is his doing," Walesa told The Associated Press on Friday. "More than one year after he spoke these words, we were able to organize 10 million people for strikes, protests and negotiations.

"Earlier we tried, I tried, and we couldn't do it. These are facts. Of course, communism would have fallen, but much later and in a bloody way. He was a gift from the heavens to us."


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/pope_ending_communism




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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 06:34 PM
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1. I used to make that argument with my uber-conservative boss
who worshipped the ground reagan walked on. When he talked about how great ronnie was and how he ended communism, I'd say it was the Pope and Gorbachev that ended communism. That always used to piss him off. :)
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 06:40 PM
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2. E-mail him the article...
...it'll do his soul good. Can't "dis" a dying Pope! :D
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 07:07 PM
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4. haha! that's a good idea
alas, we're out of touch now ... which is probably a good thing, as he was totally out of control, politically speaking ...
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gademocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 06:51 PM
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3. DONE
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 04:27 PM
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5. Important addition...After you rate the Pope story up
Edited on Sat Apr-02-05 04:30 PM by Career Prole
rate this one down!

Nancy Reagan notes common bond of late husband and Pope John Paul II

"And then, you know, there was a whole communist thing. They were -- the two of them, the pope and Ronnie, very involved with defeating communism."

Right...and I was "very involved" in winning the World Series against the Yankees 'cause I had it on the tube.



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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 04:48 PM
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7. done n/t
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 04:47 PM
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6. done n/t
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 05:36 PM
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8. kick
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