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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 08:08 PM
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Who will mourn the passing of the Chief Rabbi of the Commonwealth?
Huh, tell me, WHO? More importantly, outside his congregation, who will even know when he passes? The only holy person our American media seems to believe exists is the Pope. News flash! There are others who are just as beloved, just as righteous, and just as worthy of our mourning their passing.

Here's some information about the Chief Rabbi. May he live long and well.

http://www.chiefrabbi.org/index.html
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 08:10 PM
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1. I Will! As An Athiest, I Have No One To Morn!
Edited on Fri Apr-01-05 08:30 PM by DistressedAmerican
I feel a little left out of the fun!

We also lack buildings and graven images!
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 08:12 PM
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3. Lol!
Then you just have to grieve for the entire human race. We need some attention too!
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 08:30 PM
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7. Believe Me I Do!
EVERYDAY! :scared: :cry:

Kick!

:kick:

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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 08:11 PM
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2. I will.
I mourn the deaths of all men and women of good will.
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Alex146 Donating Member (556 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 08:14 PM
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4. How many people does the Chief Rabbi of the Commonwealth represent?
The pope represents a billion people. This isn't just a media fest.
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 09:33 AM
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24. I could say something about the reason there are so
few Jews in the world now, thus fewer consituents for the Chief Rabbi, but I will choose to remain silent on that at the moment.

The thing is that the death of anyone who promotes peace and tolerance is a loss in a world that is increasingly intolerant. Should the Chief Rabbi of the British Commonwealth pass (G-d forbid) I am sure it will be little noticed by the US media.

If media notice is contingent upon the size of one's constituency then I assume all on DU will agree that the positive press Bush gets is all good then since 3 million more Americans allegedly voted for him in November than voted for Kerry.



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elcondor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 08:19 PM
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5. The pope has no peer on the international stage
The pope's death will affect the spiritual lives of millions of Catholics worldwide. I do think that the media is going overboard with this death watch and constant programming when there really hasn't been any new news for hours, but I can see the motive behind it. The Chief Rabbi, whom I also wish will live long and well, I'm sure will be mourned by many Jewish people in England when he passes. But it's not a fair comparision, IMHO ... and I say that as a person who considers herself a Jew.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 08:30 PM
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8. My point is that there are many good people around the globe.
The logic of making the number of faithful followers of a holy person the criterion for attention to his/her death is negated by the level of mass hysteria focused on Terry Schiavo's drama. She's been transformed into a Jesus like figure by the American media and our lunatic fringe. Yet I don't think she had a following of millions.
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elcondor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 08:33 PM
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11. OH, okay
With all the news of the pope's imminent passing, I thought you were talking about him. I absolutely agree with you on Ms. Schiavo. That was truly a saddening and disgusting display put on by the media.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 08:35 PM
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12. Well, I'm just talking about the media's choices of whose life & death
they're going to obsess about.
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prodigal_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 08:54 PM
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13. He is a world leader
there are a billion Catholics in the world. It is kind of a big deal to us. Much more so than Ms. Schiavo or any other private citizen (whose deaths should remain private).

Having said that, I really don't need to know about his bathroom habits at end of life.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 08:59 PM
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14. The British Commonwealth encompasses a vast amount of territory also.
Edited on Fri Apr-01-05 09:00 PM by MyPetRock
Australia and Canada are still part of the Commonwealth as far as I know. There may be other areas too. While I can't project what our media will do when he dies, hopefully many decades from now, I would guess he'll get close to zero attention. When one compares this to the TS 24/7 obsession, it's appalling.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 08:25 PM
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6. Hey he looks like the Rabbi at my Temple
the i keep meaning to go to every Saturday but i've missed so many weeks that now i'm racked with guilt that i don't want to go and get the "Look" from him.
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WearyOne Donating Member (490 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 08:31 PM
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9. is he ill ?
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 08:32 PM
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10. No, at least not that I know of. I'm just using him to make a point.
I can do that not being Jewish!
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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 09:18 PM
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15. I'm Jewish and am saddened by the imminent death (if it already
hasn't happened) of the Pope. I respect him a lot for trying to make peace with the Jews regarding the Holocaust, for example.
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WearyOne Donating Member (490 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 12:13 AM
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16. ok best of health to him.l..long may he live and if he dies
of old age I can't say I'll mourn him just like I won't really mourn The Pope but I sure respect them.
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Dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 05:57 AM
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17. I'll mourn him, although he's pissed me off in the past.
For instance, by refering to Reform Jews as 'those who are trying to destroy the faith.' Like the Pope, I believe him to be a good man with some bad views. But to address the point of your post, as others have already pointed out Dr Sacks simply represents far, far fewer people than the Pope.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 08:49 AM
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20. But he still represents a huge number of people. Yet I had never heard
of him before googling "chief rabbi" yesterday.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 06:24 AM
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18. interesting
I have never heard of him. I will post this in the Jewish room tomorrow (today...after I get up), if you don't. By post, I mean a link to this site. It is very interesting. Thanks for sharing! Shalom!
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 08:47 AM
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19. Please do post over there. Let me know how people react.
I'm not Jewish, so I haven't joined that group. My husband is Jewish so maybe that gives me some credibility though!
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 08:55 AM
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21. I will though I don't know him
Edited on Sat Apr-02-05 08:55 AM by mmonk
I will assume he was good.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 09:20 AM
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22. He's still very much alive!
But the point is that you "don't know (of) him". Nobody does, yet he has a vast Jewish following. When he and other holy leaders face ill health and/or die, our media marginalizes their lives and deaths. Instead they obsess about not just the Pope's health, but that of movie stars and mass hysteria triggers like TS.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 09:25 AM
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23. Then I assume he is good.
Can't do anything about the media. Very good people die everyday. I wish the congregation the best.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 10:51 AM
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25. I'm sure he's a very good man.
Someone posted here that he has been against the Jewish reform movement, which I don't like. But there's negatives and positives to all holy leaders.
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