george bush is attending Mass

in St. Matthews Church in Washington, DC along with that lump in the bed. He is such a criminal. They have been repeating his words for the last few hours on MSNBC. He is a joke. Wait until the fundies see him in a Catholic Church they will go nuts. God I hate bush.

since I know where he opened his campaign.

And to think he never goes to Church normally! Is anyone else there?

well I dont go to church either but I dont campaign at anti catholic places like Bob Jones University either.

He is such a panderer. I can't stand him!!!

Hi MaineDem btw.

Good to see you out of the Lounge. :D

Huge gaffaw if he does.

I hope he knows when to kneel and stand up.

He's an actual CATHOLIC. He converted to marry his bride Columba. In fact, it would be interesting if they sent Jeb to Rome as the envoy for his brother....

Youre right.

YOu have to be Catholic. Although there was a teacher at the Catholic school I use to teach in who was Espiscolian who was granted Communion by the Monsigner. Boy, were there some ticked off Catholics there!

:D

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I don't know if any special arrangements are necessary.

at least not from the Catholic point of view. I don't think the Anglicans would have a problem with it.

But I'm perfectly open to the possibility that I'm wrong!

Only if they don't have any unconfessed mortal sins.

For details see Canon Law at the Vatican Site:
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG1104/_INDEX.HTM

but does George know that?

I would assume (a bad thing where he's concerned) that his "people" would have told him this. The priest or Eucharistic Minister should refuse him if he presents himself, right?

I just hate him. I know it's an unchristian thing but I really do.

You may remember that the Bishop of Chicago was making a lot of noise about refusing Kerry Communion because he wasn't toeing the line on anti-choice, practicing Catholic though he is. The chimp doesn't even go to his own church. It's enough to make me wish there was a hell, just so I could imagine * roasting there for all eternity.

readings and liturgical dramatisations at our Church - I'm Catholic -
and the parish priest, and the one before him, always gives him
communion. Both of them always allow the non-Catholic partner in
a mixed marriage to receive communion during the nuptial mass,
although most mixed marriages don't have a full mass, just the
marriage ceremony.

Obviously, it must be at the discretion of the priest. My husband
has never asked to receive, and none of the other priests offer
him communion (although one is always trying to convert him).

That is a matter of Church doctrine.

Besides, maybe drinking sacramental wine will start him drinking again.

* is a lying murderer...if insincere..this man wouldn't know sincere if it slapped him in the face..he is a lying filthy pig murderer!

fly

Unless there's been some changes I haven't heard about...

I think it's well known that Bush isn't a catholic, and therefore can't receive Eucharest. Plus he'd be lampooned by everyone for trying to desecrate one of the most important sacraments in Catholicism.

it is not the same as protestant communion and has different implications. I am sure no priest would give it to him since we all know he no Catholic.

and a shot of jim Beam. the SOB started a war the Pope begged him not to.

No Shame

To me this is kind of a rub in the face to the Pope. Know what I mean?

media recognizes how self-serving that comment was in the condolences.???

"media recognizes how self-serving that comment was in the condolences.???"

Yeah, he'll evoke the Pope every time he speaks of the "culture of life."

Bush must be grateful the Pope had enough self-control to not call him a killer of Iraqi babies. I hope the media talks about the Pope's disagreement with Bush over the war. The right-wing fundamentalists won't be able to say anything bad about the Holy Father without seriously harming themselves.

M

He'd better hope he's wearing his earpiece if he heads to Rome...because they'll do THAT mass in Italian! All the standing, sitting and kneeling will no doubt confuse him...

stand up, sit down, fight fight fight...* will think he's a cheerleader again and break into his cheers!!..i can just see it now!!!

keep * the rotten murderer away from the precious popes funeral..he will make it dirty...the pope did not like bush ..in fact thought he was the anti christ..keep his filthy murdering ass away from the popes funeral!!

fly

God forbide! The blue state that Kerry is from!

'twould be the perfect venue, no?

we'll never hear of him going to confessional!!

Doesn't argue well for the existence of God.

Something to do with not formally excepting Christ as your savior.

because being anti-abortion and anti-gay rights is more important than pesky religious differences and human decency.

They only believe in "Bible-based" salvation, not in believing Jesus was Christ and doing good works. They often actively preach AGAINST good works. Seriously -- the Catholics, Quakers, Unitarians, Pagans, Methodists, etc. do most of the no-strings-attached social justice stuff in most communities.

The idea that Jesus would prefer you to sit around studying the Bible rather than helping out at the SPCA is weird to me, you know? Jesus was a hands-on type of guy.

But I will make up for it tomorrow.

What a Jerk

Don't dip your fingers in the holy water - IT BURNS! IT BURNS!

go away, go far away.

This couldn't be a more blatant political move.

they serve real wine there.

I bet he is happy the Pope is gone because the Pope was so critical of him.

In fact, I bet the Pope was starting to piss him off!

"In fact, I bet the Pope was starting to piss him off!"

Thank Goodness he didn't bomb the Vatican. Wheww! By the way, many right-wing Christians think the antiChrist will be a Pope. I am praying the Bishops who elect the next Pope don't number 10 or 13. Otherwise we'll have fundies claiming that these is the beasts of revelation!

M

"http://www.ianpaisley.org/antichrist.asp"

"http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0MKY/is_9_27/ai_108881880"

Old Jack Chick seems to waver between the Pope and the Head of the UN...

That man has no shame.

A new low :puke:

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About the little Episcopalian church in the town I live in:

All are welcome to receive communion. The pastor does not feel, nor does the diocese, that they should hold back the sacraments from anyone who wishes to receive them. Something about how they were first offered and making decisions about worthiness to receive them.

I like that.

http://stmarys-church.org

I did the website. The pastor is my good friend.

I've heard our vicar say more than once that he didn't care if one had water dripped, flipped or poured over one's head, or if one was splashed, quickly dunked underwater or held under, one was welcome at the altar.

"Blessed are the Peacemakers."

There are quite a few other quotes in there befitting this situation, such as the one calling people who pray in a very public way as being "hypocrites" who want people to think they are good folks.

But I can't really complain about the Burning Bush going to mass. he needs to be churching.

M

And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

There's also a passage about the giving of charity, that you aren't supposed to tell everyone about it.

And, of course, the Pope said privately that he thought Dubya was the Anti-Christ. I vote with the Pope, it's Dubya as Anti-Christ by a landslide!
Maybe he tried to stay alive so long to try to prevent Dubya from succeeding

Be given the wine at Mass? My background is Lutheran and communion is usually in both species for the laity. We go to RC weddings etc. and are offered the wafer. But I am not sure about the wine (the blood of Christ). Can anyone help me here?

although either is sufficient in itself. It's not about laity or clergy.

Communion in the RCC, however, isn't open to any baptised Christian as it is in the Episcopal and Lutheran churches. You need to be Catholic (I believe there are a few small exceptions -- churches not exactly RCC, but in communion with the RCC -- don't remember the details). You need to have received the sacrament of holy communion, and you're supposed to have confessed your sins. (That's pretty loose now -- wasn't so much when I was a kid). Much stricter, in other words.

No, Bush (GW) would not be allowed to receive at a RCC church. His brother Jeb is a Catholic now, so presumably he could.

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The evil Chimp is a joke...imagine when the American Religious Extremists (aka Fundies) discover that the Boy King isn't talking to "GOD" but rather to the Devil himself....they will explode with shock and the realization that they opened the door to the Devil himself! :nuke:

alone saying anything about pope john paul..remember it was this pope who said * may be the anti chirst and he wished he was younger to take * on!!

this pope neither trusted * nor liked him or tolerated him...stay away * you are an insult to us catholics!!

fly

Many are just swooning over his being there. They're hoping he converts to Catholicism. Yikes!

how can so many be that stupid?? this pope was so against * and sooo adamently against *es war..and he truely did feel * was the anti christ..he even stated he wished he was younger so he could take * on ..one on one...
stupid people make me furious!!

ignorance is what is evil in the world.

fly

He gives Christianity a bad name. It is a mystery to me how anyone could be convinced that man has any spirituality at all. Feh.

At the f*cking grandstanding, megalomaniac jerk! He interrupts the mass, where JP II is being celebrated, all "look at me! look at me!" Showing how "pious" he is. Dude, His Holiness wasn't too impressed with you.

Fucking JACKASS. It was JP II's right to have that moment to himself, not have *taking away attention and having cameras intrude. I had some problems with His Holiness (women, gays), but he did alot of good things, too. Plus, he was head of the Church and head of a State.

JACKASS. Like he EVER goes to any church service!

:grr:

I bet he's just trying to get more Catholic votes with all of this.