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theophilus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:07 PM
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Will high gasoline prices finally "burn" the Bush?
The price of regular is up to $2.23 at least here in Arkansas. This really hits us poorer folk hard. I'm just driving less and less. Is this going to be THE straw? Mr. Bush has dodged enough bullets to fill a bandoleer, but the sense is (I think) that things are going in the wrong direction. With his numbers falling and people really taking a hit in the old pocketbook, is everything going to unravel?

I am very worried because we are all in for a very rough patch. If Al Gore had been allowed to serve as President, I truly believe that we would weather the coming storm. With those now in charge, I have my doubts. It is truly going to be a nightmare because they won't admit there even IS a problem until it is too late to stem the tide of cascading economic doo doo.

Oh, well. What do you think? I have heard so many times, "This will sink Bush all right!" It hasn't happened. What is the next year going to look like? Song: It's a lovely day.....tomorrow.
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:09 PM
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1. if al gore were prez
we'd have controll of the saudi's oil now
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:11 PM
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:13 PM
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7. I read it as
sarcasm.
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:14 PM
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10. i think if 9-11 happened under gore
actual investigations would have lead to saudi arabia
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:16 PM
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12. I'm not convinced 9/11 would have happened at all under Gore.
I just can't see him or his team totally ignoring all those warnings.

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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 02:33 PM
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30. me either
even if * and crew had no hand in it, gore would have been impeached for shooting the planes down
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:28 PM
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19. Control of their oil is an entirely different matter nt
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andyhappy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:10 PM
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2. there are not enough straws
to break this camels back.

reagan was the teflon president

clinton was known as slick-willie

yet bush has even eluded some clever phrase about how nothing sticks to him...unbelievable...un-fucking-believable...
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:13 PM
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9. How about George "Dubya-D 40" Bush?
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:15 PM
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11. I like it! n/t
n/t
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andyhappy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:16 PM
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13. ooOOooohhh! Thats good!
but it won't stick!
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:11 PM
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4. What does "sink Bush" mean?

He's not running for re-election. So that isn't an issue. What is the hope in sinking Bush?
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theophilus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:18 PM
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14. When I heard such talk before the last election, it obviously meant
that Kerry was gonna win, fer shure. Now, I suppose it would mean that Mr. Bush would be emasculated, marginalized, revealed for the fraud he truly is and this revelation would even be realized by many who voted for him. That's what I mean. It could also apply to poisoning the proverbial well to such an extent that a Democrat might actually be the next President.
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:19 PM
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15. He could drag a lot of Congressional republicans down with him.
The point of bringing Bush down would be to influence the 2006 election cycle. Coat-tails can be a two-way street :-)
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:12 PM
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5. Bush can use his supereconomist powers
to fix a SS "problem" forty years down the road, but doesn't notice the oil prices wrecking the economy a week from next Tuesday.

Please tell me this is a nightmare from which I will soon awaken.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:12 PM
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6. Nope.
People who are bushbots are BRAINWASHED. They will blame anyone and anything else BUT bush or the repukes for gas prices or anything else bad that has happened since he came into power.

Hell, news came out that they flat-out IGNORED multiple, specific WARNINGS about 9/11 and bushbots didn't even blink. They just kept on looking around like sheep on tranquilizers, unblinking, eyes glazed over, maaaaaaaa, maaaaaaaa, I gots my cable teevee, I gots my malls, who cares about anything else?

They believe there is a vast liberal media that is consipiring to take all the repukes down, who by the way, RUN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY AND THE MEDIA. How can you break through THAT kind of cognitive dissonance???

No, they have to get HUNGRY, literally HUNGRY and possibly very cold (or down here, extremely hot, no ac) before they will really pay attention. Things have to break down more badly than pain at the pump to open their eyes.

Drinking the Kool-Aid is far more serious than it sounds. After all, the event from which that saying is taken resulted in the deaths of those who drank it. Those who drink it nowdays experience a different kind of death.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:13 PM
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8. People will put up with a lot of things or ignore a lot of things but when
they are slapped in the face with gas prices, even the apathetic or Republicans go :wtf:
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Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:20 PM
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16. Who knows? Nothing else has. . .n/t
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Willy Lee Donating Member (925 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:22 PM
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17. Bush doesn't mind high gas prices.
He doesn't give a fuck about the "average man". In his insulated world these are mere nuisances.

I'd bet that he is thrilled with skyrocketing prices. The oil industry is raking in hefty profits- these are *bush's best friends.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:27 PM
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18. Almost all drivers pump their own gas nowadays.
If they could be reminded of George Bu$h and Dick Cheney every time they watch the $$$s add on as the gallons go in, yes it would burn the Bu$h regime. There needs to be that direct connection though. It would take a massive ad campaign against the regime's propaganda machine that daily disassociates Bu$h/Cheney from the realities at the gas pump. In other words, it ain't gonna happen.

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Willy Lee Donating Member (925 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:38 PM
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23. Sounds like a great opportunity-
to print up some small stickers , place them over the flashing $$$s on the gas pumps.

Any ideas?
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:33 PM
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20. I'm not sure gas would be much lower under Gore
I think it has less to do with the whole terrorism thing than people think. Much of it is simple supply and demand. Besides that, I think 9/11 probably would have happened under Gore and if not *something* would be going down with terrorism. On the plus side, Gore would be trying to raise cafe standards, getting rid of tax breaks for SUVs and putting tax breaks on more efficient vehicles, and he would be researching alternative energy hardcore, whereas the current president is totally against oil alternatives. It's just too difficult to speculate on events following a hypothetical terrorist attack under Gore although you can bet on no Iraq war.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:35 PM
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21. $2.19/gal? AUX ARMES, CITOYENS!
Nous devons donner l' assaut à la bastille et enlever les tetes!
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illflem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:36 PM
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22. Don't think there's much any politician can do about fuel prices
it all comes down to good old supply and demand. The ones to blame are the politicians twenty years ago who all knew full well this was coming but failed to act on it with some alternatives.
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Willy Lee Donating Member (925 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:41 PM
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24. But *bush is encouraging consumption.
Phasing out the $2,000 tax break for hybrids while keeping the $25,000 writeoff for guzzlers like the hummer.

Didn'e he say (during his 1st term) that we need an energy policy that encourages consumption?

The man is pur evil.
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OrlandoGator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:44 PM
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25. Fuel-efficient cars are their own tax break.
n/t
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Willy Lee Donating Member (925 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:45 PM
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26. What about the tax break for hummers?
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:52 PM
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27. I sure hope so
I no longer take unnecessary car trips--avoid what I can.
It still takes 2 tanks of gas a week for me to work and for my daughter to go to college.
I just paid $35 for a tank of gas in a mid sized car.
I had an opportunity to buy a 82 Chevette with only 20,000 miles on it for $800. The kids said they wouldn't drive it. Now, I would have been driving it,lol.
I had a Jeep and couldn't afford to drive it anymore, so I sold it.
Felt if I didn't sell it when I could that it would sit and die a rusty death.
The energy crisis in the 70's brought to a halt all the big luxury cars and trucks and brought about the economy car. What is really frightening is that I still see the same number of SUV's and large cars on the road and so far no influx of hybrids and economy cars in my area.
Truly glutenous.
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newportdadde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 01:04 PM
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28. No it wont, nobody cares.
They should care, they really should its insane. Here in MO its 2.15, I had though the wheels would come off back at 1.75 and it didn't, then 2.00 and it didn't now... freaking 2.15. Hell its not even making the local news. You know during a price hike they interview two people saying "Wow this is high" etc. Nothing...

My wife has a friend who raises af family on 30k so they watch what they spend. Her and her husband both went Bush and even they don't complain about it.. their response.. "I can't effect gas prices" so they just go merrily about their way buying ground turkey at aldi because they can't afford hamburger.

One thing we can count on is this... a bad dollar, a huge housing bubble, rising interest rates and gas going up up up we are heading for hard times.
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tashidelek Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 01:11 PM
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29. $2.25 in Detroit
$2.25 last weekend in the Detroit area, but NOTHING on the MSM about it other that the occasional story on places to find it a little less expensive.

I can't help but think how this would play out if there were a democratic president in office.
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