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tedzbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 06:23 PM
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Why the Pope's passing is no cause for grief...
snips from Planet Out article:


...thanks to John Paul II, homosexuality has risen to the top of the list
of modern evils. This elevation was due to his own experiences. As a young
man, he lived through the Nazi occupation of Poland. As a bishop and then
cardinal, he endured the repression of a communist regime. Once communism
fell, something else had to take its place as the ideology of evil. With
the rise of gay rights, we were the easy pick to fill the void.

It's not that John Paul II didn't take aim at other targets. There's
always that hardy perennial -- abortion. But you have to admit that
nothing seems to have spurred the Church and John Paul II on as much as
homosexuality. Bishops who were considered weak on the topic, such as
Bishop Rembert Weakland of Milwaukee, were essentially laid off. Dignity,
the gay Catholic group, was banned from holding services in local churches.

The pinnacle (or nadir) of the John Paul II papacy has to be the notorious
Halloween letter, issued in 1986, which declared gays and lesbians
"disordered," "self-indulgent" individuals who "threaten the lives and
well-being of a large number of people." So much for pastoral outreach.
Even the pope's last major statement, his recent book, tore into
homosexuality as an ideology of evil.

Don't expect the new pope to make any changes. Imagine a court packed with
conservatives getting ready to select the next president. (OK, so you
don't have to imagine it.) That is the operating definition of the College
of Cardinals, which will choose the new pope. Since practically all were
appointed by John Paul II, who enforced a pretty stringent litmus test for
conservative ideology, it's hard to imagine them picking somebody from
left field, so to speak.

sorry, no Link (from Green Party email)

John Gallagher is co-author of "Perfect Enemies: The Battle Between the
Religious Right and the Gay Rights Movement."
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rawtribe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 06:30 PM
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1. Link here...
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Branjor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 06:50 PM
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2. And just how
do gays and lesbians "threaten the lives and well-being of a large number of people"? :shrug:
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 07:01 PM
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3. 'cause they're not reproducing
and making thousands and thousands of new Catholic babies.
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ablbodyed Donating Member (610 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 07:02 PM
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4. Because many of us>>>>
think for ourselves and reject the mind-control that is inherant in organized religion. We also are less likely to bring more children into the world; and, since the whole point of organized religion is to get as many people indoctrinated into YOUR ONE REAL TRUE BELIEF system, and incidentally, to support it financially, so that those reunning it can benefit from others' toil, while they do almost nothing constructive, OF COURSE, we're harming the multitudes with our selfishness.
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 07:49 PM
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7. Parochial schools have to be closed
Since families don't have 10 kids anymore. Not religious but economic reasons but the RC establishment is clearly unable to have K-12 religious indoctrination as it once did. If the church had more vigorously supported the rights of workers then perhaps some of the old larger families would still be around. Just a thought I had.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 07:17 PM
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5. I was in another thread this afternoon
and I went online to find examples from his latest book and links to news reports about it.
More than HALF of the links the search engine provided suddenly didn't exist anymore.
I noticed this because I had looked for links last week before jp2 died and there were HUNDREDS of them.
Now all of a sudden the msm just decides to pull the reports?
Why am I not surprised.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 07:37 PM
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6. You are evil
for letting us know this man called innocent people "evil".

Evil, I tell you. You're at fault. He didn't mean any of it.

And, after all, he didn't think gay people were evil, just what they did, wrote, thought, spoke, ate and slept.

Jeez, even the blacks didn't pick on George Wallace this much.

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