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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 08:03 PM
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LEAKED: Dems' scathing rebuke on Gannon inaction



LEAKED: Dems' scathing rebuke on Gannon inaction



"It is an unfortunate fact of life that we have an Administration that is all too willing to flaunt the law, and a Republican-controlled Congress that refuses to investigate even the most serious ethical transgressions. Whether it is torture at Abu Ghraib, sole source contracts with Haliburton, or the outing of a CIA operative, this Congress has been unwilling and unable to ask the hard questions or issue the difficult subpoenas. The... failure to request even the most cursory of information regarding Mr. Gannon... represents a disturbing continuation of this trend, and illustrates the ongoing problem of one-party rule in Washington..." Full eight-page dissent forthcoming soon...

Link: http://www.rawstory.com/
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BadGimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 08:05 PM
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1. red meat
yum
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Callboy Donating Member (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 11:48 AM
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37. What the heck happened to this story
If it were a Dem, it would not have gone away
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 08:09 PM
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2. Good, Get It On The Record.
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mahatmakanejeeves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 08:14 PM
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3. re: "flaunt the law"
Flout the law. Isn't that in Strunk and White?
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 08:20 PM
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4. I think that the meaning has morphed by virtue of the long term...
...misapplication of the word.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 08:54 PM
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8. That don't make it right. /sic/ n/t
.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:55 PM
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10. Language purist.
:P
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porkrind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 07:08 AM
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16. It's perfectly cromulent
An unpossibly embiggened term. :)
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 07:16 AM
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17. Jebediah would be proud
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Harlequin Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 12:18 AM
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11. Hear, hear!
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 08:57 AM
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25. Strangely Enough,
Flaunt (to proudly display) has a secondary meaning of flout (to proudly disregard), and flout has a secondary meaning of flaunt.

So both words are correct.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 09:59 AM
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31. Baloney. Flaunt is flaunt
and flout is flout, dammit.

And I'll flagellate anyone what says different.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 10:21 AM
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33. You're in Good Company
Try a search on "flout flaunt". It's amazing how far the controversy rages.

The best historical blurb I came across was this, from Merriam-Webster Online:
A recent question about the distinction between flaunt versus flout found us flabbergasted . . . or perhaps flummoxed. We were disconcerted not because no such distinction exists, but because it had never occurred to us that the distinction should ever be flaunted—or is that flouted?

---snip

No one quarrels with using flaunt to mean "display oneself to public notice; wave showily;" or "display ostentatiously." Likewise, using flout in the sense "treat with contemptuous disregard" inspires no scorn.

The similarity of the words' meanings and their appearances helps explain why, more than eight decades ago, folks began using flaunt where one might expect flout. That usage—born in confusion—now turns up in edited prose and among educated people. Folks who track such developments of meaning consider using flaunt in place of flout established, part of the natural ebb and flow of language. But since plenty of other folks view it as an error, pure and simple, we'd advise following, not flouting convention.

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/wftwarch.pl?040204


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deacon2 Donating Member (396 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 01:38 PM
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48. Actually, not quite true
"Considering the similarity in pronunciation of the two words, it is not surprising that FLAUNT has assumed the meanings of FLOUT and that this use has appeared in the speech and edited wriiting of even well-educated, literate persons. Nevertheless, many regard the senses of FLAUNT and FLOUT as entirely unrelated and concerned speakers and writers still continue to keep them separate."

Webster's Encyclopedic Unabridged Dictionary of the English Language

That said, as long as they engage these bastards and "flog" them mercilessly, I don't care how or what they write about the process.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 10:43 AM
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36. Dang, I missed your post
Making ourselves look ignert doesn't help things.
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 03:04 PM
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41. They ARE the law.. and flaunting it! thats my read... nt
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Cheney Killed Bambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 08:21 PM
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5. Yaaaa!
Now that's what I call an opposition party!!!


:applause:
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 08:51 PM
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6. Story is up!
4/4/2005
Leaked: Democrats ready stinging dissent on inaction over Jeff Gannon, other scandals
Filed under: General— site admin @ 8:24 pm


Democrats prep stinging rebuke of Congress’ lack of oversight

By John Byrne | RAW STORY Editor

Democrats are readying a sharp rebuke of the Republican-led Judiciary Committee’s vote against demanding an investigation into discredited White House ‘reporter’ Jeff Gannon, and placing it in the context of what they see as a broad attempt by Republicans to stonewall investigations into improper activity, RAW STORY has learned.

Their dissent, prepared by Democrats in the House, is an eight-page explanation of why they feel investigating Gannon’s credentialing was warranted, citing preferential treatment and issues of security.

Most salient, perhaps, are the Democrats’ effort to place Gannon in a broader context of the Republican-led Congress’ moves to derail investigations on issues such as Abu Ghraib and Halliburton contracts.

“We have an Administration that is all too willing to flaunt the law, and a Republican-controlled Congress that refuses to investigate even the most serious ethical transgressions,” the Democrats write. “Whether it is torture at Abu Ghraib, sole source contracts with Haliburton, or the outing of a CIA operative, this Congress has been unwilling and unable to ask the hard questions or issue the difficult subpoenas.

“The Committee’s failure to request even the most cursory of information regarding Mr. Gannon from the Administration,” they continue, “represents a disturbing continuation of this trend, and illustrates the ongoing problem of one-party rule in Washington.”

Their dissent, leaked to RAW STORY this evening, follows.

#
Dissenting Views to Committee’s Adverse Reporting of H. Res. 136

We vigorously dissent from the Majority’s decision to report adversely H. Res. 136, which would have requested the Justice Department and Department of Homeland Security disclose information concerning the manner in which Jeffrey Gannon (aka James A. Guckert) received White House press privileges.

We dissent because we believe 1) Mr. Gannon was granted preferential access by the White House; 2) the granting of such access via temporary passes raises serious security issues; 3) the Administration’s course of dealings with Mr. Gannon may also have violated various legal requirements; and 4) there are no other means available to pursue these lines of inquiry.

By defeating this Resolution, all of the above questions will remain unanswered, and the Majority continues a long line of inaction on their part which runs totally counter to the principles of accountability and checks and balances that our nation was founded upon. The Majority’s perfunctory rejection of this important Resolution, on a party line vote of 21-10, at the end of a long day of markup of other business, does a disservice to the 33 Members, including 14 members of this Committee, who submitted this Resolution of Inquiry to the House.

It is an unfortunate fact of life that we have an Administration that is all too willing to flaunt the law, and a Republican-controlled Congress that refuses to investigate even the most serious ethical transgressions. Whether it is torture at Abu Ghraib, sole source contracts with Haliburton, or the outing of a CIA operative, this Congress has been unwilling and unable to ask the hard questions or issue the difficult subpoenas. The Committee’s failure to request even the most cursory of information regarding Mr. Gannon from the Administration represents a disturbing continuation of this trend, and illustrates the ongoing problem of one-party rule in Washington.


More: http://rawstory.com/news/2005/index.php?p=242
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 08:51 PM
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7. Send this to your local community papers and ask them to run it,
since the corporate-owned media will undoubtedly ignore it.

Also send it to local radio talk-show hosts or TV talk shows in your area.
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:05 PM
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9. It's about damn time! n/t
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 03:07 AM
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12. Whoo Hoo! Glad to see this!
Edited on Tue Apr-05-05 03:08 AM by TheGoldenRule
Nominated! And...Let's keep it kicked!
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 03:25 AM
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13. Dems need to go after Gannon with both barrels blazing.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 03:42 AM
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14. paper chase... use this as your paper chase for today n/t
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Blue Gardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 05:26 AM
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15. Kicked and nominated n/t
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 07:25 AM
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18. Great to see the Dems do have some spine after all
:kick:
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 07:54 AM
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20. Now see if anyone will report it.
If the Dems grew a spine and no reporters were there to write about it, would they still stand tall?
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 07:44 AM
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19. should be "flout" the law
is that quote from the Dems? tsk tsk
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Plaid Adder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 08:07 AM
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21. thank you
Let's hope they got it right in the actual letter.

C ya,

The Plaid Adder
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 08:42 AM
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22. Our Democrats must stage a "Walk Out" shutting down the Govt. soon.
This is the only way any investigations will get the attention of the mainstream media. We are getting close to the tipping point where the country will be completely sold off to the Christian Right and the Corporations.

It's the only way. Do what the Texas Democrats did, but stage it on the Capitol steps. Leave and refuse to Legislate any more bills.

If they don't do this then we know that they are part of it. Only the
"Black Caucus" in the House and a handful of Senators seem to be trying to fight against this tossing of our Constitution and total disregard of the purpose of "Checks and Balances" in our government.

The time is gone for negotiating. The tipping point is here. :scared:
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 08:47 AM
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23. IF they staged it on the Capitol steps
WE should be there in DROVES to show support. A sea of BLUE surrounding the Senators and Reps.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 08:51 AM
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24. yup
i think they are smart enough to know that we would be there. dr. dean taught them how to talk to their constituents in an unprecedented way.
let's go.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 09:04 AM
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26. I'm ready! I wish they could give us a heads up!
I would be there in a heartbeat!
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 10:27 AM
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34. they can
they all have this e-mail thing DOWN!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 09:12 AM
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27. Would they do that though?
I would love to see that though! I wonder if they'd be brave enough to do that? What if we all write to them or have a petition or something?
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MetaTrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 09:26 AM
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28. No doubt five minutes after the Dems walk, the BFEE would crash the market
And six minutes later you'll be seeing the pointing finger from Faux and CNN.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 11:54 AM
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38. Something has to be done. We here on the internet and those who belong
Edited on Tue Apr-05-05 11:55 AM by KoKo01
to Progressive Groups can't alone hold this Bush/Fundie/Neocon Crowd back much longer.

We've signed petitions, gotten out the vote (which was stolen), donated money to many candidates all over the country, given to progressive and environmental groups, supported internet progressive Web Sites, and we are exhausted. Even the small bands of us Progressive Democrats fighting in our states are having trouble keeping our heads above water, holding down jobs and attending local meetings trying to get our state legislators to listen to us.

We don't have the power and I'm afraid unless our uncorrupted Democrats in the House and Senate do something we will all go down soon.

I'm serious about this. Our Dems in Congress must realize at this point that they aren't being listened to. The White House ignores their letters (and has done so for the past four years back when Henry Waxman started requesting information shortly after the 2000 Selection). And what happens to all these petitions we are asked to sign by Kerry, Conyers, Boxer, et al and Progressive Activist Groups. We hear nothing about what happened to all these petitions. We have no voice except on the internet. It's time for a massive Congressional Demonstration. And, it has to be done soon or the frustration level will eventually tear the country to shreds in a civil war or we will drift into Facist State ruled by a Dictator Gang in DC where the people will soon learn that compliance is the safer way to live. We can't rely on newly awakened fresh troops on the Progressive side to help us because with the Cable News not reporting any of the Bush Administration's crimes only those of us who've taken the time to inform our selves even KNOW what the hell has been going on with these maniacs in power.

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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 01:00 PM
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40. Lived through it here in Texas
It was really difficult on the reps and proved to be fodder for the opposition......However, I couldn't be prouder of my Texas Senator and have told him so at every opportunity. Remember, they did this in the Ukraine, this is how you overthrow a corrupt government....take it to the street and shut it down. I think it is time to back those reps willing to challenge this government. It does need to be shut down- if only for our protection. The people ARE the government.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 09:32 AM
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29. Can a Congressperson file impeachment papers also please
There aren't the votes there, but the papers
should be filed for history sake...it's the
right thing to do.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 10:20 AM
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32. Any Representative can file an impeachment resolution
By "congressman" I presume you meant representative, not senator (who are also "congresspeople".

Resolutions are referred to committees, in this case it would be House Judiciary.

The Chair decides which bills to hear in the committee. Since Sensenbrenner is chair, any impreacment bill would have a snowball's chance in hell of being heard.

Resolutions can also be brought directly to the floor, if directed by the Speaker, as in the case with the TS resolution. Fat chance of that happening, either.

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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 09:39 AM
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30. Homeland Security: 'We're still looking for Gannon credentialing'
http://rawstory.com/exclusives/byrne/homeland_security_responds_jeff_gannon_404.htm

The Department of Homeland Security has responded to two Democratic members of Congress who requested for information relevant to the credentialing of a discredited White House correspondent, but say they have yet to locate the relevant documents, RAW STORY has learned.



Much more at the link.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 10:42 AM
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35. self-delete
Edited on Tue Apr-05-05 10:45 AM by wryter2000
I need to read threads before I comment on them.
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FuzzyDicePHL Donating Member (698 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 12:21 PM
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39. kicky
:kick:
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 03:11 PM
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42. Ed Schultz is covering Gannon/Guckert on air right now! !
Edited on Tue Apr-05-05 03:12 PM by Griffy
He has a congresswoman on.. she sying we are not letting up.. we wanna know his purpose! She thinks it was not for softballs so much as cut at dems. We are not gonna let him (bush) be silent!.. Hes not an emperor siting on his throne!!!! COOL!

"we dont need a Gerbals(sp) in the US"!

more... im sure itll be archived soon


its was Congresswoman Slaughter! :)
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 10:31 PM
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43. I was going to post something on this
I heard her on Big Eddy too. This guy who is not an emperor must answer.
From Congresswoman Slaughter's site:

http://www.slaughter.house.gov/HoR/Louise/News/Press+Releases+By+Date/2005+Press+Releases/04-04-05+Homeland+Security+Department+To+Provide+Details+On+Gannon.htm
Clip...
Washington, DC - In a letter released today, the Department of Homeland Security indicated that they would begin compiling documentation on Jeff Gannon in an effort to comply with a Freedom of Information Act request made six weeks ago by Rep. Louise M. Slaughter, Ranking Member of the House Rules Committee and Rep. John Conyers, Ranking Member of the Judiciary Committee.

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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 11:24 PM
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44. Have you posted this yet?
It's good to read something's happening with the Gannon scandal. But when--oh, when--will it make the MSM?

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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 07:15 AM
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45. Only put it here Intheflow
I was looking to see if anyone was talking about it and I found it among the "Greatest".
Maybe this could be kicked up so some of the others will notice.
On further study, I could not find the supposedly humorous johhnygoschblog. I guess the joke is over.
:D

DU received some unflattering attention from the Des Moines Register on a story about Gannon (Gosch?)

http://edit.desmoinesregister.gannettonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artikkel?NoCache=1&Dato=20050405&Kategori=LIFE04&Lopenr=504050376&Ref=AR

Clip...
The Gannon-Gosch conspiracy theory first appeared on the message board of a liberal political site called The Democratic Underground on Feb. 26. A site regular, using the name TwoSparkles, speculated that Jeff Gannon was victimized by a government-organized child pornography ring.

Then he foreshadowed the future with this note: "I found this picture of Johnny Gosch. I looked at it and almost thought it looked like Gannon! It must be getting late." The image was a school picture of Gosch taken in the 1980s and later enhanced.

The same poster noted that Gannon/Guckert and Gosch had the same initials. Before long, other site members were trying to figure out whether the ages matched. (In fact, there would be more than 10 years' age difference between Gannon and Gosch.)

----
I know this has little to do with the fact that a non reporter with a 2$ degree in journalism was fast tracked into the White House.
Fast tracking of the shill, stovepiping of intelligence and outing of an undercover; Where will it end? Louise Slaughter seemed fired up, so she must feel that there is more here than meets the media eye.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 11:45 AM
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46. I can point you to the Gannon
Gosch thing. It's up on Demopedia: http://demopedia.democraticunderground.com/index.php/Gannongate_Wrinkles

But I thought this Slaughter piece was worthy to stand on its own. It's not nutty at all like the Gannongate Wrinkles threads.
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 06:51 PM
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50. Thanks
I took part in some of the wrinkle mayhem and even got my post put on johnnygoschblog. I haven't checked the demopedia stuff in a while since all the Gannon threads have been getting canned.
Subject for some reason seems to be taboo on this forum.
I'm not trying to keep the gosch thing going, but there is a banner on Gosch.com about some announcement coming soon. Of course the 3gs may be unrelated.

:kick:
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 12:08 AM
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52. From DU Latest Breaking news
More on the DU and blog killers.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1369202

Maybe the interest is growing.
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chomskysright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 12:42 PM
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47. THANK SLAUGHTER: 202 225 3615
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cynthia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 03:38 PM
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49. just called
We need to speak up and let our people in Washington or the State House or wherever, know that we are behind them when they make a bold move. It takes such guts to go against the grain, but they are the ones with integrity.
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 06:52 PM
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51. I'll probably email her or call
She is doing the work that many have shied away from.
:kick:
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