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Ironpost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 08:59 AM
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As a country where are we headed?
We have a president who elects to not tell the truth, I'm not sure he can at this point even if he wanted to. We have a congress who seems to not care, who won't do their job. We have a populace who seems indifferent, apparently doesn't want to rock the boat. A supreme court who puts politics first. A media that won't report what is actually happening in the world, and when confronted concerning this simply says, WHO US. I personally am worried and really scared.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 09:02 AM
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1. Give you a hint
we're in a hand basket.
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RPM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 09:03 AM
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2. is it easter-eggs?
hee hee hee
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 09:03 AM
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3. hell doesnt scare me,
;-)

lite always...........triumphs over dark
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RPM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 09:20 AM
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15. evil always triumphs over good, because...
good is dumb

-dark helmet
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 09:22 AM
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16. nuh uh.......lol
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RPM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 09:37 AM
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18. true - only if evil has the bigger schwartz
god that is a great flick
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unsavedtrash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 09:04 AM
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4. with bright yellow flames painted on the side
:evilgrin: :nuke:
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 09:08 AM
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7. I think the phrase I used...
... a few years ago was a "rocket-powered handbasket."

It's like the Roaring Twenties out there--the acceleration is a thrill, but the landing leaves a bit to be desired.
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Ironpost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 09:08 AM
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8. As I pointed out, indifferent
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 09:06 AM
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5. Oppression usually leads to rebellion
Soon there will be a voter rebellion of mega magnitude. The Pubs hold this off with rewards and deciet. They reward their stooges/Peters and lie cheat steal from the masses while posing as good guys.

But time is at hand when the truth emerges and the Sheep see the damage their votes/support had done and feel BETRAYED USED AND ABUSED.

Bush and his crew has betrayed America with their silly ass Greed.
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 09:18 AM
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13. I tend to agree with your projection
I'm hoping sooner than later, 'cause if the filibuster gets passed, then we're all f__ked. Then, all of the following (plus some I can't think of) will be legal and there won't be a damn thing we can do about it:

Patriot act changes-which are taking place now
Unwarranted wars-gee, didn't this already happen???
Eliminating SS-he's trying!
Destroying Medicaid-trying again!
Lies-never ending!
Republican justices-will rule everything!
Christianity rule-will be the ONLY religion; everyone else will be forced to convert or leave the country.
Unethical chair nominees-been there, done that!
Destruction of democracy-happening quickly, especially if freeper justices and Christianity are the rule of law.
Totalitarianism-I think we can pretty much agree on this.

Others???
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 09:06 AM
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6. We are headed for very dark times. Unfortunately we will likely
be dragging the rest of the world down with us.

The only real question is will the sheeple wake up in time to prevent our total destruction? If not then the neo-con and american taliban fundies will succeed and America as we knew and loved it, will die.
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 09:11 AM
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9. Shut up! Don't you know we are in Oceania?! And we have always...
... been at war with Eurasia. Or is it Eastasia?

Or is it Iran... or Iraq?
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 09:40 AM
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19. Seriously, though. What scares me is the complete disrepsect...
... for science and reason.

By denigrating science, academics, and objective journalism (which, when it is rarely done, usually targets conservatives), they are able to completely ignore anything factual whatsoever.

This disregard for facts and reason allows them to: ignore global warming, ignore evidence on stem cell research, ignore evidence dismissing their case for war, etc., etc., etc. Oh yeah, and ignore evidence that the 2004 election was likely fradulent (http://electionarchive.org/ucvAnalysis/US/Exit_Polls_2004_Edison-Mitofsky.pdf).

Think about it: They have targeted and maligned all of the objective sources out there. They have repeated ad infinitum mantras such as "the media is biased", "academia is loaded with liberal elites", and "Science? Well, it's just a theory, noty a fact! WE have scientists who say...". That means anytime an actual expert challenges them, all they have to do is repeat the above. It allows them to never address any questions!

That technique would get you kicked off of any high school debate team, but they do it anyway.

Paul Krugman's column today addresses the attempts to "rein in" those "dictatorial" liberal professors (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/05/opinion/05krugman.html?hp).

One proponent of legislation against these "elitist" liberal professors says thay "act as 'dictators' and turn the classroom into a 'totalitarian niche.'"

Um... forgive me, but ISN'T a teacher a "dictator", in the context of the classroom, anyway? His or her decisions are final on what gets taught, how work is graded, etc. But it's a CLASS, not a prison! If you don't like what they teach, don't TAKE IT!

We are dealing with people who think it's okay to sue a professor for teaching SCIENCE in a SCIENCE class! A class they VOLUNTARILY PAID to attend, and selected themselves!!

Science is science. Fact is fact. The earth is round, and things fall down, not up. These people cannot even grasp this. THAT is how far science and reason have fallen in this country. THAT is what truly scares me.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 09:11 AM
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10. here
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 09:20 AM
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14. LOL !!
That is really funny! But true, I'm afraid. And I love that web address!!
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LuckyTheDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 09:17 AM
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11. BACKLASH
We're headed toward a HUGE backlash against the far-right neocon wackos. I feel it coming.
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Bellamia Donating Member (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 09:51 AM
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20. Backlash?
Agree, and as Winston Churchill said, "When you're going thru Hell, keep going." For heaven's sake, let's DO something! Who said that for evil to prevail, all it takes is good men/women to do nothing.
Correct that quote, someone, O.K? My question: WHAT SHALL WE DO?
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 09:18 AM
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12. .
Down the crapper.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 09:29 AM
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17. Right down the shitter.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 10:26 AM
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21. That's easy, down the tubes
And the rate of decent increases exponentially with each passing day.
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Ironpost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 10:33 AM
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22. And the landing is going to be rough
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 11:16 AM
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23. We must start from ground zero, up the level of reasoning reckoning
Collectively, We should be reaching up to higher levels of understanding, polyvisions, symbioism.......rather than RIGHT BY MIGHT. All we need is a 10% shift.

This strong thingy has been very good to Armies of the Past but its PASSE in many respects in todays world.
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