$100 ticket, $56 "administration fee"

$156 total, this is ridiculous. Administrative cost? Transaction: I walk up to the counter, hand girl my ticket. She grabs ticket, punches my name in the computer. She says: "$156" I hand her money. She puts money in till and makes change. Prints out receipt. Hands me change and receipt. The whole transaction took, no lie five minutes and cost me $56. What a fuckin' jip and you know it's going straight into some corrupt judges pocket.:rant:

into a judges pocket?

Also, you might want to refrain from using the term "jip" which is actually a derivative of "gyp" which is a derogatory term for gypsy. It is a racial slur along the same lines of "jewing" someone down in price.

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In most cases, those fines are part of the same code that makes the infractoin punishable by a fine. The judge has no leeway to increase such a fine. They can however consider mitigating circumstances and reduce or eliminate the fine in most states.

going to a corrupt judge. In fact, I think that notion is a bit misguided.

Just yesterday, a gentleman was discussing with me how he was going to "buy off" some politicians. This is no lie. He then informed me of how easy it was to get a politician out of office when they don't vote your way. They way he was discussing it sounded as if he was moving pieces around on a chess board. I don't think my assumption is that far off at all.

Judges don't make the laws. Judges don't have any ability to determine what the fines in a traffic violation are, those are set by statute, which judges have nothing to do with.

How do you think these people became judges? They were lawyers and legislators first.

different things. Don't believe everything you hear.

As far as your other claim, if you really believe that a publicly-paid moving violation fine is going to end up anywhere near the judge's pocket, there is little point in suggesting otherwise.

and I know the source for the comments that I overheard and they weren't empty threats.

What a fuckin' jip and you know it's going straight into some corrupt judges pocket.

If that's a "figure of speech", I'm a corrupt judge.

Nice try, but no sale.

I should have said hyperbole not figure of speech. You think that there are NO corrupt judges?:spray:

of seeing judges blames for all the ills of society.

For the Roma people?

And although the sarcasm was subtle, I was taking up for you.

Sorry, if I did.

And it's pretty harmless anyway.

Furthermore, Old Order Mennonites are DOUCHEBAGS.

I am also offended.

I only get half of that money.




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Oh shit! I think I may have just offended the Sex Workers Labor Party.:hide: :banghead:

and I don't appreciate you singling me out for your P.C. bullshit. Show some tact next time. You know you could have PMed me?

wasn't exactly singling you out. Since when is suggesting that someone not use racial slurs PC Bullshit?

Again as I said you could have politely informed me of that with a PM.

I have seen none.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=gyp

gyp also gip Audio pronunciation of "gyp" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (jp) Slang
tr.v. gypped, also gipped gyp·ping, gip·ping gyps, gips

To deprive (another) of something by fraud; cheat or swindle.


n.

1. A fraud or swindle.
2. One who defrauds; a swindler.


Probably short for Gypsy.

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or perhaps this will be more to your liking: http://www.clovisnews.com/trails/words_mean.html

The verb "gyp," for example, comes from "Gypsy," members of which people (who prefer to be known as Roma) were stereotyped as swindlers

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Or maybe:

http://www.wordorigins.org/wordorg.htm

Gyp

This US slang term meaning a cheat or swindle (also used as a verb) dates to 1859. It is derogatory in origin, a clipping of Gypsy.


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I hope this helps your confusion.

Probably short for Gypsy I believe I spelled it jip
I will probably wash the car this afternoon. Will I or won't I? Probably doesn't cut it.

as listed in other places.

It is, has been, and always will be an ethnic slur.

One of the actual line items was $15 for the "Judicial Employees Retirement Fund" or something along those lines. I thought it was a rather large conflict of interest. If he lets me walk, he gets nothing; but if he fines me, then I contribute to his retirement.

Very nice.

Ticket for what?

Parking, speeding or Ringling?

since bush took over... hence fees for everything have gone up.

increases, and this is what you get -- fee increases for everything.

The $100 is free and clear anyway.

The issuing officer's salary is a sunk cost - he gets paid whether they collect tickets or not.

The woman working at the window makes about $8/hr, so for 5 minutes of her time at $56 her salary should technically be about $1,680/hour, give or take the .02 for cashing a personal check.

Not bad for a gummint employee.

Here in Dallas you can actually get your ticket dismissed on a successful challenge, but they charge a dismissal fee. You have to pay the dismissal fee even though the ticket is no longer enforceable for the ticket to show dismissed of record, or they will write a warrant for your arrest.

Fucked up.

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Ticketmaster :headbang:

hehehehehehe.

Hehe. :)

I took them down in anticipation of having a new roof put on, and I wanted to repair and repaint the fascia. Well, the job went on longer than expected and the winter set in so I had to wait until the spring to finish. During this time, the city came around and told me I had to have my gutters up or I'd face a city codes violation. I told them I couldn't finish painting because it was 12 degrees out with snow and ice all around, and would have to wait until spring. The city seemed to be sympathetic but, when the codes enforcement officer retired during this time, his supervisor went out and issued citations to all outstanding cases. I went to court and plead "not guilty" due to the ongoing agreement I had with the former codes enforcement officer. Eventually, I was given 30 days to finish painting and put up new gutters, which I did (since this whole process took a couple months and we were well into the spring when this ultimatum was given), but still had to pay the court costs. Afterward, I remember thinking to myself, "If I was innocent, then why did I have to pay court costs?"

Did you pay the ticket late?

I have NO SYMPATHY with red light runners.

None.

Period.

I paid my fines and moved on.

I've lost three friends killed by red light runners.

Again, I have NO SYMPATHY. None at all.

I did not "mean" to run the red light. I'm not out to kill anybody. I was just out into the intersection when the light turned red. Were they all in the same car?

Or would law breakers get not sympathy from you, no matter the punishment?

In this case he did. He made a judgement against me. I feel that he was at error.

I don't see a problem here.

Common or not it hurts me economically. I was expecting $50-$75, that I would have been able to deal with. I could even live with $100. But this "administrative fee" is just nonsense.

and looking at the receipt they spelled my name wrong too. Maybe I could have gotten off on that.:sarcasm:

the light was only yellow for about two seconds and the traffic patterns were very confusing. I should have clarified in the original post that I am not upset over the original fine, it was this "processing fee" that I feel is exorbitant.

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or did you receive something later telling you that an additional $56 had to be paid?

To me, the fact that I paid $156 means that he misrepresented the county government. I only found out about the fee when I went down to the courthouse to pay.

I'd check into it with your state officials. Hidden fees on tickets are not cool.

when I read your subject line.

It's getting to the point where I hardly ever go to concerts anymore.

I can't afford my rock 'n' roll lifestyle.

Here is how it works... you give the lawyer 100. The lawyer calls up and gets the fine, the fine is then doubled and the infraction is changed to 'vechicular malfunction'.. in other words the extra fine is used as grease money and your done.

No points on your license.. no insurance hits.

Court systems are funded through a mix of taxes and user fees (court costs). The choice is made between either raising taxes on everybody to cover the entire expense or having taxes lower and imposing fees on those who actually use the courts. Take it up with your state legislature if you feel this is a problem, but eliminating the fees means your taxes go up regardless of whether you use the courts or not.

All things considered, it's not far removed, philosophically, from sin taxes.

I ask because my husband recently got a letter about him running a red light. It said he was a month overdue on paying and now owed an extra hundred dollars. This was allegedly caught on a red light camera.

There are a couple of things that bug me about our situation. First off, we did not receive the first letter to know that we were supposed to pay within 30 days.

Secondly, how an they send a letter to my husband and know for sure he was driving the car? It did not say which car, that we own, was being ticketed. Both of our cars are in his name. If it was his car, he was diving for sure. If it was for my car, we both drive it and so how can you ticket someone when you do not even know if they were driving.

Thirdly, I looked up the date they said we ran a red light. It was a Sunday around noon. Well on Saturdays as well as Sundays we hardly ever get out of the house before 2 or 3 PM. We are in serious doubt that it was our car.

That brings me to my fourth point. It was 'caught' by a camera and so we were going to demand to see a picture - that is until we read the entire letter and it said we could look up ticket information as well as look at the picture on line. We went on line at the URL given, but there was no picture!

This whole thing is worrisome to me because they have now done away to with the red light cameras and I never did catch the full story why. Are they unreliable? I thought I heard something about corruption but am not sure what it is.

The thing that bugs me most is that in my younger days I would speed. We are both parents now and we do not speed let alone run red lights. The closest we get to running a light might be where we are in the middle of an intersection, waiting to turn, when the light turns to yellow and then you turn to go. With two little ones, we are both careful about our car practices. With four car accidents under my belt - none of them my fault and the last one stealing 6 months of my life because of being bed ridden, I am more careful than the average person.

I honestly do not think we did anything illegal. I contend we were not even there and there are no pictures to even prove who was driving a car. How can someone be ticketed when they may not even be driving the car?